Widening Wheels thread

[theStig880]

Originally Posted by ComicArtist

Cool.

To you guys who have rebuilt wheels, what would you recommend for someone who has never done it before? I'm about to pick up a 19x8 +38 KF and a local shop can lathe the weld, but I'd like to try actually putting it all back together.

Rebuilding the wheels is relatively easy but does take some time to do. In addition to the lips you will also need a sealant, a torque wrench, and some sockets. I'm afraid I don't know the exact sizes. Wheelflip sells sealant for cheap I'll probably use next time but I've always used Permatex Ultra Black in the past with no problems.

Once you have the few materials I listed, its pretty straight forward from there. Undo all the bolts on the face and use a razor to cut away any of the silicone. I've never rebuilt welded wheels so I can't give you a first person account but I believe this would be the point that you get your machine shop to cut the weld. After that, you put the new lips in place of the old ones and tighten everything up. You don't need a crazy torque for these either. I also hand tighten all the bolts, apply the sealant, and then go around setting the torque at 23-28 ft/lbs. Then smooth the sealant out with your finger. There is no need to re-weld the lips in case that was a concern.

That's really it. If you have any other questions about specific stuff, feel free to message me. I lurk this thread a lot too as I'm sure you can tell.

[ComicArtist]

Thanks for the tips man! I'm working on a pair of VS-KF's right now as my first project that will end up being 19x10, -13ish once I'm done with them. I'm sure I'll be back on this thread with more questions and updates!

[babowc]

Originally Posted by ComicArtist

Thanks for the tips man! I'm working on a pair of VS-KF's right now as my first project that will end up being 19x10, -13ish once I'm done with them. I'm sure I'll be back on this thread with more questions and updates!

If you don't mind me asking, how much was it to cut the welds?
I'm looking to do this also..

[tsi_guy619]

Originally Posted by ComicArtist

Thanks for the tips man! I'm working on a pair of VS-KF's right now as my first project that will end up being 19x10, -13ish once I'm done with them. I'm sure I'll be back on this thread with more questions and updates!

I'm widening my vskfs too...if you plan on making them true 3 piece wheels I would get the faces slotted to have more bolts holding them together...kinda sketchy only having 20 bolts instead of 40bolt like other 3 piece wheels...paid $30/wheel @VR wheels

[rob22]

Quick question

I have a set of weds I'm looking to go a tad wider on

Current specs
19x9.5+28
6.5 inner barrel
3 inch outter

Looking at purchasing a 10 inch barrel set up.
5.5 inner barrel
4.5 outter

What would my new offset be?

[inuyasha3466]

Originally Posted by rob22

Quick question

I have a set of weds I'm looking to go a tad wider on

Current specs
19x9.5+28
6.5 inner barrel
3 inch outter

Looking at purchasing a 10 inch barrel set up.
5.5 inner barrel
4.5 outter

What would my new offset be?

Try this.
Split Rim Offset Calculator | Wheel offset and fitment comparison tools

[nativG20]

Im looking for some one who knows how to rebuild wheels and polish lips in the Southern Cali Area.... do you guys have any suggestions?

[GabeS14]

Originally Posted by nativG20

Im looking to buy some wheel faces that will fit 18 inch 40 whole lips and barrels.

looking for something like some Wed Kranze Bazreia or Wed Kranze Vishunu faces, but im open to what you have. i am NOT looking for Work VS-XX faces

LMK what you guys Got! thanks

http://zilvia.net/f/wheels-tires/

This is a thread to discuss widening wheels not a sale thread.. or marketplace.

[inuyasha3466]

GabeS14, you still happy with the work Eric Vaughn did for you? I've talked to him about widening a pair of my wheels. He is a little backed up at the moment but thats no problem if his work is worth the wait.

[GabeS14]

Originally Posted by inuyasha3466

GabeS14, you still happy with the work Eric Vaughn did for you? I've talked to him about widening a pair of my wheels. He is a little backed up at the moment but thats no problem if his work is worth the wait.

Yeah his work was amazing, I sold those wheels though. He is always backed up, you gotta get him to make an appointment when he can take your wheels and hell get them done in one weekend.

[inuyasha3466]

Originally Posted by GabeS14

Yeah his work was amazing, I sold those wheels though. He is always backed up, you gotta get him to make an appointment when he can take your wheels and hell get them done in one weekend.

Thanks.

[babowc]

I know Minervas are welded, but do they use the standard 40 bolt lips?

[spoo.ap1]

Interesting thread. Is it possible to add a lip to a wheel that had no lip?

example:

[blueshark123]

Originally Posted by spoo.ap1

Interesting thread. Is it possible to add a lip to a wheel that had no lip?

example:

It has been done but probably not worth it at all.

[ILoveJDM]

Originally Posted by babowc

I know Minervas are welded, but do they use the standard 40 bolt lips?

yep

[tauntdevil]

Originally Posted by spoo.ap1

Interesting thread. Is it possible to add a lip to a wheel that had no lip?

example:

I was wondering the same question as I want to get the Square G8's to be wider and with a lip with much less offset to fit on my car perfectly but havent been able to find much of an answer to the question or any pictures of it done so guessing its not a good idea.

I dont know any shops as well so cant ask if they can widen them.
Or rims like these (Avid AV-06


My goal is 17x11 -35 or -38 for me.

[spoo.ap1]

Originally Posted by tauntdevil

I was wondering the same question as I want to get the Square G8's to be wider and with a lip with much less offset to fit on my car perfectly but havent been able to find much of an answer to the question or any pictures of it done so guessing its not a good idea.

I dont know any shops as well so cant ask if they can widen them.
Or rims like these (Avid AV-06
http://unleashedwheels.com/media/cat...dsc_0035-1.jpg

My goal is 17x11 -35 or -38 for me.

i'd be cool if it was done before. Glad im not the only one thinking of that..those wheels on your mazda 3 look like gramlight 57dr's kinda.

[GabeS14]

Originally Posted by spoo.ap1

Interesting thread. Is it possible to add a lip to a wheel that had no lip?

example:

Having the spokes go to the edge of the lip like that makes it impossible, but if the spokes stopped before the lip you can cut and weld a barrel onto the edge.

[tauntdevil]

Originally Posted by spoo.ap1

i'd be cool if it was done before. Glad im not the only one thinking of that..those wheels on your mazda 3 look like gramlight 57dr's kinda.

Not my Mazda, I have S chassis. Was just using the photo to show example of the rims.

[GabeS14]

Originally Posted by tauntdevil

Not my Mazda, I have S chassis. Was just using the photo to show example of the rims.

the rims on the mazda can def be widened

[tauntdevil]

Originally Posted by GabeS14

the rims on the mazda can def be widened

Awesome, thank you.

[s13love-green]

I have a question and hoping you knowledgeable folks can help answer

I will be picking up some weds the down side is the size and offset
18x8.5+44 and 18x9.5+44
My question is I want to re lip them but I don't have much to work with do to the size what would be the most lip I can add on a stock s14 body with out having to get wide body
My first time getting 3 pc wheels
Here's a pic of the wheels

[tauntdevil]

Well.... let me get into some math here...

Stock fenders on my car and my new rims (17x9 -63) sticks 2 1/4" out.
Nearly perfect for my 50mm over fenders.
BUT, for stock fenders. That would mean 18x9 -6 would be flush with the fender.

I would recommend working with that. I can explain more when I am not at work and on the phone with a customer yelling in my ear. Sorry.

[s13love-green]

Originally Posted by tauntdevil

Well.... let me get into some math here...

Stock fenders on my car and my new rims (17x9 -63) sticks 2 1/4" out.
Nearly perfect for my 50mm over fenders.
BUT, for stock fenders. That would mean 18x9 -6 would be flush with the fender.

I would recommend working with that. I can explain more when I am not at work and on the phone with a customer yelling in my ear. Sorry.

How can I go from 9.5+44 to -6??
What can be done or what options do I have

[tauntdevil]

Here, offset is from the center. So basically the size of the rim, divided by two then converted to millimeters which will be the result of 0 offset.
So to figure out how to convert it out, you have to see how many inches or mm it is from the center/hub to the fender. I gave you my specs to inform you of the data you need to figure out where the hub is located.
2 inches is roughly 50mm. I can explain more later and will give you the correct offset as well that you are asking for.

For my rim, 18x9 -6 would be the perfect size to be flush with the edge of the fender.
9in = 228.6
228.6/2 = 114.3
114.3+6 = 120.3mm = 4.74in
(add the 6 this time because we are looking for how large of the outer lip needs to be in order to be a perfect fitment.)

So the distance from the hub to the fender edge is 120.3mm or 4.74in.

18x9.5 +44.. When getting it custom made, the offset shouldnt matter as they will be curring both edges and just need the reading you want.

9.5in = 241.3
241.3/2 = 120.65
120.65-120.3 = 0.35
So that is smaller than 1 which means you will want 0 offset for those rims in the rear ( I assume widest rim in the rear).

Hope this helps. If anyone wants to correct me, please do because I am tired and at work and may be wrong somewhere.

[GabeS14]

Originally Posted by tauntdevil

Here, offset is from the center. So basically the size of the rim, divided by two then converted to millimeters which will be the result of 0 offset.
So to figure out how to convert it out, you have to see how many inches or mm it is from the center/hub to the fender. I gave you my specs to inform you of the data you need to figure out where the hub is located.
2 inches is roughly 50mm. I can explain more later and will give you the correct offset as well that you are asking for.

For my rim, 18x9 -6 would be the perfect size to be flush with the edge of the fender.
9in = 228.6
228.6/2 = 114.3
114.3+6 = 120.3mm = 4.74in
(add the 6 this time because we are looking for how large of the outer lip needs to be in order to be a perfect fitment.)

So the distance from the hub to the fender edge is 120.3mm or 4.74in.

18x9.5 +44.. When getting it custom made, the offset shouldnt matter as they will be curring both edges and just need the reading you want.

9.5in = 241.3
241.3/2 = 120.65
120.65-120.3 = 0.35
So that is smaller than 1 which means you will want 0 offset for those rims in the rear ( I assume widest rim in the rear).

Hope this helps. If anyone wants to correct me, please do because I am tired and at work and may be wrong somewhere.

Damn, I almost understood lol but I keep getting lost..

[tauntdevil]

Originally Posted by GabeS14

Damn, I almost understood lol but I keep getting lost..

Im sorry. I suck with explaining things in words, I normally do photos but I only go on zilvia when at work. :S

[mrslowevoix]

I just got some one piece oz done into 18x12 -81 and 18x11 -50

[signals13]

Originally Posted by mrslowevoix

I just got some one piece oz done into 18x12 -81 and 18x11 -50

What was the cost and what company did the work?

[white_is]

Steeb38 on instagram did his wheels.
www.facebook.com/5thwheeldesign