Widening Wheels thread

[GabeS14]

any one have a better number for vr wheels? their phone just does busy signal all day long.

[danshaz]

Originally Posted by GabeS14

any one have a better number for vr wheels? their phone just does busy signal all day long.

theyre switching providers so their phones are down temporarily.
the temporary number they posted on instagram is 626-715-6922
@vrwheels if you want to confirm

[GabeS14]

Originally Posted by danshaz

theyre switching providers so their phones are down temporarily.
the temporary number they posted on instagram is 626-715-6922
@vrwheels if you want to confirm

posi rep for you!

[s13silvia123]

A question for you guys who relipped and rebarreled 45 hole Rays wheels.
Does most wheel service places carry the lips and barrels. Or is it as common as the 40 hole works. I can't seem to find them on Google.

[jakewolf]

A buddy of mine finally set up his lathe to split lips and barrels. I was the guinea pig. Luckily things went smoothly and the lip and barrel are both useable, not that I plan on using the old lips.

Now back to waiting for my new lips to show up/deciding if I want to refinish the center of my wheels or not.

[TheBlackHand]

Originally Posted by jakewolf

A buddy of mine finally set up his lathe to split lips and barrels. I was the guinea pig. Luckily things went smoothly and the lip and barrel are both useable, not that I plan on using the old lips.

Now back to waiting for my new lips to show up/deciding if I want to refinish the center of my wheels or not.

Were these SSR wheels you had to split? I had to send mine to a machine shop to split the weld between the lips and barrels.
Who did you order your lips from? I ordered mine 3 weeks ago from ThreePiece and still don't have them yet. Not complaining though, I understand it takes time to build them per order.

[jakewolf]

Originally Posted by TheBlackHand

Were these SSR wheels you had to split? I had to send mine to a machine shop to split the weld between the lips and barrels.
Who did you order your lips from? I ordered mine 3 weeks ago from ThreePiece and still don't have them yet. Not complaining though, I understand it takes time to build them per order.

Yah these are 17" SSR Gartmaiers. Lips were ordered from VR.

Are you waiting on 17s as well? I've been for waiting just over a month.

[TheBlackHand]

Originally Posted by jakewolf

Yah these are 17" SSR Gartmaiers. Lips were ordered from VR.

Are you waiting on 17s as well? I've been for waiting just over a month.

Mine are 18'' SSR Vienna Courage. I ordered 6'' lips. They said it would be about a 1 month wait time. Mine are 39 hole lips so they were custom made to order. It seems like the only thing they keep in stock are Work Equip/VS lips and barrels. Everything else is made to order I guess.

[adey]

Originally Posted by red240

Woah, super interesting! Would be so much easier to get ahold of the outer lip and the (extended?) bolts... I wonder if they are welded. Any chance you can get a photo of it when you change tires?? Would be great. Thanks!!

[GabeS14]

Here are my new lips ordered from VR wheels, they came with Lines/markings scratched all over, I don't think this is normal, and there is also a Hard line about 3 inches from where the mounting wholes are that circles the entire lip.
Does anyone else's polished lips come back looking like this? I sent them an email and they said that's normal marking from the polishing wheel.
The ones I got from Wheelflip for my Ordens didn't have any of this shit on them, they looked great.

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and here is the hardline, its very hard to see in pictures due to the reflections, but it is very obvious when looking at it up close, and you can feel it too, it almost has a very subtle step, as if the lip was smaller then steps up about 1/4 millimeter but was smoothed almost all out to blend it in.
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[inuyasha3466]

Those lips weren't polished correctly. Looks like they skipped a step with the compounds.

[TheBlackHand]

Originally Posted by GabeS14

Here are my new lips ordered from VR wheels, they came with Lines/markings scratched all over, I don't think this is normal, and there is also a Hard line about 3 inches from where the mounting wholes are that circles the entire lip.
Does anyone else's polished lips come back looking like this? I sent them an email and they said that's normal marking from the polishing wheel.
The ones I got from Wheelflip for my Ordens didn't have any of this shit on them, they looked great.

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and here is the hardline, its very hard to see in pictures due to the reflections, but it is very obvious when looking at it up close, and you can feel it too, it almost has a very subtle step, as if the lip was smaller then steps up about 1/4 millimeter but was smoothed almost all out to blend it in.
Attachment 95313

Those don't look normal. Especially the lip with all the scratches on it. It almost looks like they polished over manufacturing defects. Just for reference here's a pic of the 6'' lips I ordered from ThreePiece. None of them had any wavy lines or imperfections.

[adey]

Any pics of the "before" condition of those lips? (I assume they were repolished, based on the language used).

Definitely doesn't look normal if the lips are "new"

[Mister.E]

There is usually a little bit of scratching, but damn.

[GabeS14]

Originally Posted by adey

Any pics of the "before" condition of those lips? (I assume they were repolished, based on the language used).

Definitely doesn't look normal if the lips are "new"

They were new ordered from VR.

[est14]

Does anyone know if i can relip Weds kranze lxz (18") with Work vs-xx lips.
They are both 40 hole, but does lxz face drop in Work lip and do holes line up?

Thanks.

[tricky_ab]

Originally Posted by GabeS14

They were new ordered from VR.

That doesn't look right at all. I'd push back on that for sure.

[theStig880]

Originally Posted by est14

Does anyone know if i can relip Weds kranze lxz (18") with Work vs-xx lips.
They are both 40 hole, but does lxz face drop in Work lip and do holes line up?

Thanks.

I'm not 100 percent sure on LXZ's but I've rebuilt a few sets of Cerberus 1's and 2's which are both part of the Kranze lineup. Neither would fit with a Works 40 hole lips. They have a larger diameter were the face meets the lips and barrels which required me to have them put on a lathe and enlarged a couple mm. The holes will line up after the lathe work enough to get bolts through but it's very tight and requires a little persuasion for a couple of them.

[est14]

Originally Posted by theStig880

I'm not 100 percent sure on LXZ's but I've rebuilt a few sets of Cerberus 1's and 2's which are both part of the Kranze lineup. Neither would fit with a Works 40 hole lips. They have a larger diameter were the face meets the lips and barrels which required me to have them put on a lathe and enlarged a couple mm. The holes will line up after the lathe work enough to get bolts through but it's very tight and requires a little persuasion for a couple of them.

Thanks for info! Need some work lips, so i can try them.

[iHateMySilvia]

don't know if this has been asked before or stupid question , is it possible to remove faces off vsxx with out having to split the barrel n lip apart without damaging the seal?

oh and deflated tires on them

[theStig880]

Originally Posted by iHateMySilvia

don't know if this has been asked before or stupid question , is it possible to remove faces off vsxx with out having to split the barrel n lip apart without damaging the seal?

oh and deflated tires on them

Yes, it is possible to remove the faces without splitting the lips/barrels, but I've never done it with tires still on. I wouldn't want try with inflated tires but you should be alright deflated.

[1988montecarloss]

anywhere on the east coast sell lips for 15" ssr longchamps? not sure if i im up to cut the welds myself and shipping to the west coast and back isnt gonna be cheap

[konstbug]

Hi, I have these Blitz brw03, 3pc welded, with specs:
17"x8j+45et
17"x9j+35et

The question is - relip them for sale or just refinish? And if relip - which size is preferable in 17"?
As say theStig880 "this is a very vague question" and I agree, but I would like to know some average (optimal) width in 17" for zilvia owners.
Thank you.

[TheBlackHand]

Originally Posted by konstbug

Hi, I have these Blitz brw03, 3pc welded, with specs:
17"x8j+47et
17"x9j+35et

The question is - relip them for sale or just refinish? And if relip - which size is preferable in 17"?

I like the Blitz 03's. I would keep them, re-lip them, powder coat the faces and put them on your car. It's expensive to do but worth it.
I went through the same process on my SSR Vienna Courage wheels.
As far as which size to go with...that's personal preference. There's no right or wrong answer to that question. I personally would re-lip the front wheels with a 5'' lip. idk what size your barrel is on the front wheels but I'm guessing it's 5''. That would make the front wheels roughly 17 x 10 if you use a 5'' lip.
For the rear wheels, re-lip to 6'' or 7''. That would make them about 17 x 11 or 17 x 12 depending on your inner barrel size and lip size you choose.
It all comes down to your personal preference and how much money you're willing to spend on them.

[konstbug]

Originally Posted by TheBlackHand

I like the Blitz 03's. I would keep them, re-lip them, powder coat the faces and put them on your car. It's expensive to do but worth it.
I went through the same process on my SSR Vienna Courage wheels.
As far as which size to go with...that's personal preference. There's no right or wrong answer to that question. I personally would re-lip the front wheels with a 5'' lip. idk what size your barrel is on the front wheels but I'm guessing it's 5''. That would make the front wheels roughly 17 x 10 if you use a 5'' lip.
For the rear wheels, re-lip to 6'' or 7''. That would make them about 17 x 11 or 17 x 12 depending on your inner barrel size and lip size you choose.
It all comes down to your personal preference and how much money you're willing to spend on them.

Thanks for reply! Yeah, you are right, all 4 barrels are 5"

[FaLKoN240]

If you ever plan on selling them, do NOT go bigger than 10.5 for rear or 9.5 for front. You limit your market by making widebody specific sizes.

[konstbug]

Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

If you ever plan on selling them, do NOT go bigger than 10.5 for rear or 9.5 for front. You limit your market by making widebody specific sizes.

That exactly what I wanted to get to know. Thanks a lot!

[Mister.E]

That is one of the most true statements ever made.

[SupaDoopa]

I'd actually say that 9.5/10 up front and 10.5/11 upfront respectively are the ideal sizes most S-chassis owners want - more so the 9.5F/10.5R combination.

[FaLKoN240]

Originally Posted by SupaDoopa

I'd actually say that 9.5/10 up front and 10.5/11 upfront respectively are the ideal sizes most S-chassis owners want - more so the 9.5F/10.5R combination.

10 up front sucks shit.

Feels like you're steering a barge.