Marijuana Legalization Debate *NO PICTURES*

[SexPanda]

Originally Posted by BustedS13

in como you can be caught over and over without being taken in, which is kind of cool.
although, in california, apparently it's a max fine of a hundred bucks. hmm.

but yeah, mandatory=mandatory jail time if convicted. so, in my state, you can weasel out of it, in theory.
just like speeding tickets. almost 30 tickets to date, no convictions. go me.

Yeah no mandatory is good. I don't smoke anymore. It just seems like MO doesnt care much lol.

I've never been caught with pot. Because I'm not an idiot. I would get as much as I was going to smoke at that 1 time, then use papers or rellos. No evidence, no paraphernillawafers, nothing.

Anyhow, back to the subject at hand. That is a very interesting map. Whats the tax stamp mean?

[yota man]

Originally Posted by SexPanda

Whats the tax stamp mean?

Originally it was how they made it "illegal." You had to have a tax stamp on the bag to say that you paid your tax on your pot. However if you went to go apply for the stamp you couldn't get one and we're basically waving around a bag of pot in public incriminating yourself.

Now its just another way to add on extra time to your sentence. You wind up with possession and if your judge is a real dick tax evasion.

For more info go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marihuana_Tax_Act_of_1937

[SexPanda]

Originally Posted by yota man

Originally it was how they made it "illegal." You had to have a tax stamp on the bag to say that you paid your tax on your pot. However if you went to go apply for the stamp you couldn't get one and we're basically waving around a bag of pot in public incriminating yourself.

Now its just another way to add on extra time to your sentence. You wind up with possession and if your judge is a real dick tax evasion.

For more info go here: Marihuana Tax Act of 1937 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ah you see thats what I thought it meant but I figured that it was such an old law that it coundnt be it. Thanks for clarifying that.

History Channel FTW. lol

[s14unimog]

I really think the stop signs are supported by two things.

Not enough for a majority vote...

No way to identify a level of intoxication...

If enough people would support the decriminalization of Marijuana in their own states, then there MIGHT be a chance that the Federal Gov't would follow suite. The problem is that there will always be free loaders and the few that will continue to mess it up for the rest of us. When I think about a nation wide decriminalization, the first image I see, is that of a going out of business sale where everything is 80% off. The switch would be so dramatic. You would have a ton of first time users and abusers, mixed with the ones already abusing the substance. sadly, I feel the day will never come.

My dad once told me he was SURE that Marijuana would be legalized back in the 70's but at last, it never happened.

The other topic to discuss would be the "too high detector." Until someone comes up with a device that could quickly tell an arresting officer that the detained is "too high" we'll be faced with that road block as well.

My advice to all, be smart, don't abuse any substance and for the love of Christ, don't get in trouble high. You're fu*kin up the statistics!

[BustedS13]

Originally Posted by s14unimog

No way to identify a level of intoxication...

saliva testing is good for 24 hours.

i'm pretty confident the main reason we have no on-the-spot method of testing is because there is no current need for one.

[s14unimog]

Originally Posted by BustedS13

saliva testing is good for 24 hours.

i'm pretty confident the main reason we have no on-the-spot method of testing is because there is no current need for one.

I agree, but if the case was to be presented, I feel it would go over easier if there was a way.

I've heard of an ounce going for right at $100 but this is low of low. I really feel if it were legalized prices would drop dramatically and then the taxes wouldn't be that noticeable.

[Sleepy240]

Originally Posted by s14unimog

...No way to identify a level of intoxication...

...The other topic to discuss would be the "too high detector." Until someone comes up with a device that could quickly tell an arresting officer that the detained is "too high" we'll be faced with that road block as well...

My assumption would be there would be no need for a "too high detector". Logic would tell me they would treat it similar to driving while under the influence of a controlled substance or medications. Where it wouldn't matter if you smoked one joint or twelve, it impares you ability to think/react which can't really be measured numerically on the spot (blood tests would require you to be taken in etc), but rather gauged by a "sobriety" test. Now they do actually make breathalyzers that can detect the amount of a substance in somebodys system but they are specifically designed for only certain a substance ((ie. Not multiple uses)(marijuana not being one of them)). It would likely qualify as operating while impaired (OWI) or operating a vehicle under the influence (OVI) as opposed to a harsh DUI.