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Guilty1s · 03-10-2013, 09:56 PM

Does anybody still make them. Only one I could ever find was the Kognition and they stopped making them long ago.

gambit420s · 03-11-2013, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Guilty1s

Does anybody still make them. Only one I could ever find was the Kognition and they stopped making them long ago.

Nissansota240 · 03-11-2013, 11:54 AM

I made a delete bracket that reuses the sunroof glass.

It bolts directly to the rack mount and to the bottom of the sunroof.

Here is the fitment on the top.

jds · 03-11-2013, 11:54 AM

just took my sunroof out a few days ago, going to cut out a piece of sheet metal and weld it in.

om3ga · 03-11-2013, 12:01 PM

My friends that hated their sunroof have always swapped the entire roof skin lol. Kind of extreme though.

Chaluska · 03-11-2013, 12:11 PM

use a bunch of painters tape on the inside and fill in the entire sunroof panel (sticky side up), and fiberglass on top of the painters tape, whenever is hardens, peel off the tape, and enjoy your new form fit block off panel.

painters tape doesnt stick to fiberglass, so you can peel it once it hardens.

Sleepy_Steve · 03-11-2013, 12:18 PM

I just riveted in a steel panel from Lowes. It makes a good place to store my track number magnets, doesn't leak, and now I can fit in the car with a helmet on in the stock seats. Total cost was like... $30 or so?

collegekid · 03-11-2013, 12:19 PM

^ thats a good idea

I had sheet metal welded in place, but it will deform even if you get a roof support welded along with it. the fiberglass is probably the best idea if you can remember not to bang on your roof.

If you weld, make sure you go slow as fuck because the metal is so thin uptop.

Sleepy_Steve · 03-11-2013, 01:46 PM

I do track weekends, so I wanted something that would be at least as safe as the factory non-sunroof car would be in a roll over event. Fiber glass (esp my DIY skills with that material) didn't fit that bill, but a decently thick sheet of steel at Lowes did once I went a little heavy on the rivet count.

The roof IS curved, and the sheet IS flat, so there will be some humps along the edges that need to be filled with RTV. I riveted it from the center front and finished it at the back to place those humps where they would bother me the least. I also found I needed to cover the tops of the rivet heads to stop all the leaks. Used about half a tube of black RTV in a caulk gun to do it.

Guilty1s · 03-11-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nissansota240

I made a delete bracket that reuses the sunroof glass.

It bolts directly to the rack mount and to the bottom of the sunroof.

Here is the fitment on the top.

I really like this, Im going to attempt to do this as I love my sunroof, I just don't fit in it with a helmet and brides...

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Originally Posted by Sleepy_Steve

I just riveted in a steel panel from Lowes. It makes a good place to store my track number magnets, doesn't leak, and now I can fit in the car with a helmet on in the stock seats. Total cost was like... $30 or so?

If that don't work, this will do just fine for me.

Thank you all.

itsdboy · 03-11-2013, 03:26 PM

you guys are all trying to delete your sunroof while im wishing my coupe had one.

*andrew600* · 03-11-2013, 03:39 PM

i fucking hate my sunroof. has someone welded a plug in? ive always felt it will pull apart the roof welds by doing so. anyone have a few pics from swapping roof skins?

rage · 03-11-2013, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nissansota240

I made a delete bracket that reuses the sunroof glass.

you should consider making these brackets, definitely a clean way to delete the sunroof

*fliprayzin240sx* · 03-11-2013, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleepy_Steve

I just riveted in a steel panel from Lowes. It makes a good place to store my track number magnets, doesn't leak, and now I can fit in the car with a helmet on in the stock seats. Total cost was like... $30 or so?

I hate to say it but that looks like poopies.

The solid brackets wont really fix the issue you'd have with the sunroof, which is the fiberglass trim breaking apart, not sealing the edges and leaking like a muffo.

Nissansota240 · 03-11-2013, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

The solid brackets wont really fix the issue you'd have with the sunroof, which is the fiberglass trim breaking apart, not sealing the edges and leaking like a muffo.

My plan for the bracket was to also make a sealant strip that would go in between the roof and the sunroof, creating a water tight seal on the entire piece. Also the plastic trim is not broken on mine, so basically I really only have to worry about making sure that the sunroof glass is sealed. Doesn't seem like it will be to big of an issue.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 03-11-2013, 09:31 PM

Thats the thing, the fiberglass piece is not broken...yet. Itll happen eventually. Once that piece starts chipping away, a chunk of it will just fly off one day while youre driving. When that happens, welcome to the same issue that every S14 sunroof owner dreads. You cant replace that trim, that piece holds the rubber sealant in place, so you'd have to figure out another way of sealing it without making it look like absolute poop.

Keep an eye on the edge of that trim. If you start noticing it delaminating off the glass on the inside corners, its roh-roh time.

Nissansota240 · 03-11-2013, 09:43 PM

Which is why I'm a bit surprised that no one has come up with a fiberglass piece that would work similar to the brackets I made. Would look similar to an RX7 sunroof from the outside.

EliteGTR · 03-12-2013, 12:35 AM

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KiLLeR2001 · 03-12-2013, 12:41 AM

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240sxrb30 · 03-31-2013, 07:26 AM

Do any of y'all still have the glass part. I figured this would be the best way to get one.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 03-31-2013, 08:09 AM

Glass part is easy to find. Find one with the fiberglass trim/rubber seal intact is a different story.

240sxrb30 · 03-31-2013, 12:09 PM

The trim is the only reason why I'm looking for a new one. Since that's the only part we can't buy seperate from the rest. Wish somebody would make a cf trim piece.

SuperBlackS14 · 03-31-2013, 12:34 PM

You'd think someone would re-engineer these things eventually...

*andrew600* · 03-31-2013, 12:59 PM

I'm really surprised there isn't a delete panel made. I would so buy one.

zenkiZ · 05-21-2013, 05:37 PM

Older thread but thought I'd share my delete panel from fiberglass..

***CrimsonRockett*** · 05-21-2013, 06:54 PM

A buddy of mine is actually in the process of making these. Very similar to Kognition. Real CF and strong as all hell.

Both S13 and S14.

Matej · 05-21-2013, 06:57 PM

Someone please replicate the OEM sunroof out of carbon fiber. I want a carboon fiber sunroof that I can keep popped open.

KiLLeR2001 · 05-21-2013, 07:02 PM

AngryPanda · 05-21-2013, 07:03 PM

i will have s13 and s14 available this summer

towlie · 05-21-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonRockett

A buddy of mine is actually in the process of making these. Very similar to Kognition. Real CF and strong as all hell.

Both S13 and S14.

Hmm more info?

03-10-2013, 09:56 PM	#1
Guilty1s Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Knoxville, TN Age: 35 Posts: 263 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Sunroof Delete Panel Does anybody still make them. Only one I could ever find was the Kognition and they stopped making them long ago.

03-11-2013, 11:54 AM	#3
Nissansota240 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Land of Purple Rain Posts: 1,255 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	I made a delete bracket that reuses the sunroof glass. It bolts directly to the rack mount and to the bottom of the sunroof. Here is the fitment on the top. __________________ DLG - DIRTYLOVE Last edited by Nissansota240; 03-11-2013 at 12:49 PM..

03-11-2013, 12:11 PM	#6
Chaluska Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: Missouri City, TX Age: 40 Posts: 997 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	use a bunch of painters tape on the inside and fill in the entire sunroof panel (sticky side up), and fiberglass on top of the painters tape, whenever is hardens, peel off the tape, and enjoy your new form fit block off panel. painters tape doesnt stick to fiberglass, so you can peel it once it hardens. __________________

03-11-2013, 12:18 PM	#7
Sleepy_Steve Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 277 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I just riveted in a steel panel from Lowes. It makes a good place to store my track number magnets, doesn't leak, and now I can fit in the car with a helmet on in the stock seats. Total cost was like... $30 or so? __________________ '95 240 \| @SleepySteve72

03-11-2013, 01:46 PM	#9
Sleepy_Steve Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 277 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I do track weekends, so I wanted something that would be at least as safe as the factory non-sunroof car would be in a roll over event. Fiber glass (esp my DIY skills with that material) didn't fit that bill, but a decently thick sheet of steel at Lowes did once I went a little heavy on the rivet count. The roof IS curved, and the sheet IS flat, so there will be some humps along the edges that need to be filled with RTV. I riveted it from the center front and finished it at the back to place those humps where they would bother me the least. I also found I needed to cover the tops of the rivet heads to stop all the leaks. Used about half a tube of black RTV in a caulk gun to do it. __________________ '95 240 \| @SleepySteve72

03-11-2013, 11:54 AM	#4
jds Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: SoCal Age: 37 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just took my sunroof out a few days ago, going to cut out a piece of sheet metal and weld it in.

03-11-2013, 12:01 PM	#5
om3ga Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Up and Down! California Posts: 878 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	My friends that hated their sunroof have always swapped the entire roof skin lol. Kind of extreme though.

03-11-2013, 12:19 PM	#8
collegekid Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: In my house Posts: 853 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	^ thats a good idea I had sheet metal welded in place, but it will deform even if you get a roof support welded along with it. the fiberglass is probably the best idea if you can remember not to bang on your roof. If you weld, make sure you go slow as fuck because the metal is so thin uptop.

03-11-2013, 03:26 PM	#11
itsdboy Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Sacramento CA Age: 32 Posts: 9 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you guys are all trying to delete your sunroof while im wishing my coupe had one.

03-11-2013, 03:39 PM	#12
andrew600 ill tongue punch her fart box Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: bethalto, il Age: 34 Posts: 1,221 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	i fucking hate my sunroof. has someone welded a plug in? ive always felt it will pull apart the roof welds by doing so. anyone have a few pics from swapping roof skins?

03-11-2013, 09:31 PM	#16
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Thats the thing, the fiberglass piece is not broken...yet. Itll happen eventually. Once that piece starts chipping away, a chunk of it will just fly off one day while youre driving. When that happens, welcome to the same issue that every S14 sunroof owner dreads. You cant replace that trim, that piece holds the rubber sealant in place, so you'd have to figure out another way of sealing it without making it look like absolute poop. Keep an eye on the edge of that trim. If you start noticing it delaminating off the glass on the inside corners, its roh-roh time. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

03-11-2013, 09:43 PM	#17
Nissansota240 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Land of Purple Rain Posts: 1,255 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	Which is why I'm a bit surprised that no one has come up with a fiberglass piece that would work similar to the brackets I made. Would look similar to an RX7 sunroof from the outside. __________________ DLG - DIRTYLOVE

03-12-2013, 12:35 AM	#18
EliteGTR Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Long Island, NY Age: 43 Posts: 453 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	********** Last edited by EliteGTR; 03-12-2013 at 01:17 AM..

03-12-2013, 12:41 AM	#19
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	^__^ msglength __________________

03-31-2013, 07:26 AM	#20
240sxrb30 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lenoir NC, Posts: 94 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Do any of y'all still have the glass part. I figured this would be the best way to get one.

03-31-2013, 08:09 AM	#21
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Glass part is easy to find. Find one with the fiberglass trim/rubber seal intact is a different story. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

03-31-2013, 12:09 PM	#22
240sxrb30 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lenoir NC, Posts: 94 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The trim is the only reason why I'm looking for a new one. Since that's the only part we can't buy seperate from the rest. Wish somebody would make a cf trim piece.

03-31-2013, 12:34 PM	#23
SuperBlackS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Albany, NY Age: 33 Posts: 381 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	You'd think someone would re-engineer these things eventually... __________________ "Power Is Nothing Without Control"

03-31-2013, 12:59 PM	#24
andrew600 ill tongue punch her fart box Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: bethalto, il Age: 34 Posts: 1,221 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	I'm really surprised there isn't a delete panel made. I would so buy one.

05-21-2013, 05:37 PM	#25
zenkiZ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: gulfport,ms Posts: 40 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Older thread but thought I'd share my delete panel from fiberglass..

05-21-2013, 06:57 PM	#27
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Someone please replicate the OEM sunroof out of carbon fiber. I want a carboon fiber sunroof that I can keep popped open.

05-21-2013, 07:02 PM	#28
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	__________________

05-21-2013, 07:03 PM	#29
AngryPanda Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Anaheim Age: 44 Posts: 79 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i will have s13 and s14 available this summer __________________ We do "Awesome"