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Z33dori · 10-12-2009, 10:50 PM

i like these... they visually look the same as PBM, but judging by the reviews, they sound like a much more street friendly version. So thats really cool.

Wouldn't mind trying these in hte future, but for now my PBM's will suffice

Charsiu · 10-13-2009, 01:31 AM

I gotta say Taiwan does make most of the decent budget coilovers around the market these days

Gotta love their bargain and performance.

*ManoNegra* · 10-13-2009, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry@Fortune-Auto

I think you meant ISO 9002

Fortune Auto Taiwan received there ISO certification several years ago. I honestly do not no much about ISO and if it is renewed or how it exactly works. I was told that to receive ISO certification every coilover must be dyno-ed. I will try and get in contact with the factory tomorrow and see if I can get some documentation.

Again nobody has ever asked for this in all the years that I have sold suspension and I am not very familiar with ISO so I will see what I can do.

Terry

oops, typo on my part... yeah, ISO 9002:1994 is what I meant
basically a set of guidelines that describe a company's quality management system
current version is ISO 9001:2008
it's funny to me that it's being used here as a feature to add value to a budget coilover is all

justinedible4 · 12-15-2009, 05:09 PM

Will these go low enough on a stock s13 with 17x9 +12 with 225/40 to be pretty flush without removing collars? Cuz idk how to do that or flip the bracket.

Csomme · 12-15-2009, 06:18 PM

you don't know how to spin a collar off a thread?

95KA-Turbo · 12-15-2009, 06:21 PM

The collars just twist off. You just unscrew the lower bracket and unscrew two of the collars, then twist the bracket back on and twist the two collars back on so you still have something to lock against the bracket. They are just below the bracket instead of on top of it.

You'll have to pick between a 215/45, 225/45, and 235/40 because finding a 225/40/17 will not be cost effective.

Either way, you should be able to go low enough without removing the collars with a 215/45 and 8k springs, the 9k springs are a little longer so you may have to remove the collars.

Black R · 12-15-2009, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry@Fortune-Auto

I think you meant ISO 9002

Fortune Auto Taiwan received there ISO certification several years ago. I honestly do not no much about ISO and if it is renewed or how it exactly works. I was told that to receive ISO certification every coilover must be dyno-ed. I will try and get in contact with the factory tomorrow and see if I can get some documentation.

Again nobody has ever asked for this in all the years that I have sold suspension and I am not very familiar with ISO so I will see what I can do.

Terry

I'd like to see a shock dyno please of these!

And do you have z32 rear lower mounts optional for those of us using the aluminum uprights from the tt?

mothon · 12-15-2009, 08:02 PM

They have shock dynos up on their site.

95KA-Turbo · 12-15-2009, 08:46 PM

Yes, they have Z32 lower mounts. I just converted the rears on my car.

The shock dyno is at the bottom of the page:

Fortune Auto USA. Home of 50mm Performance Coilovers, Titanium Shift Knobs & Titanium Lug nuts - Fortune 500 series coilovers

justinedible4 · 12-16-2009, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Csomme

you don't know how to spin a collar off a thread?

I have never owned coilovers before so I didnt know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

The collars just twist off. You just unscrew the lower bracket and unscrew two of the collars, then twist the bracket back on and twist the two collars back on so you still have something to lock against the bracket. They are just below the bracket instead of on top of it.

You'll have to pick between a 215/45, 225/45, and 235/40 because finding a 225/40/17 will not be cost effective.

Either way, you should be able to go low enough without removing the collars with a 215/45 and 8k springs, the 9k springs are a little longer so you may have to remove the collars.

Thanks man, that is the exact info I was looking for.

Chris@Fortune-Auto · 12-16-2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black R

I'd like to see a shock dyno please of these!

And do you have z32 rear lower mounts optional for those of us using the aluminum uprights from the tt?

We have Z32 lower mounts in stock for you guys running alum rear uprights. They can also be added to you coilover order for a small fee.

We are also s-chassis enthusiasts, so we keep you guys in mind with what we have on hand!

SkyHighPsi · 12-19-2009, 09:03 PM

it says that fortune auto basically copied the technology of making coilovers from japan. So how would these be compared to the Japanese coilovers like Tein? They are similarly priced after all

iamtheyi · 11-23-2010, 12:25 AM

anymore reviews on these? I'm torn between these and stance GR+ Pros.

Zero-Offset · 11-23-2010, 01:56 AM

I have these on my S13 and i absolutely love them. On the softest setting they're about one step up from lowering springs.
Its like the jump from stock suspension to lowering springs, you notice the 'stiffness' but its really not that bad. I have mine at about 5 clicks for daily, and it handles bumps really well.
I was going to go with stance, but for the $200 or so more you'd have to spend, i highly doubt they could be any better than these.
Well, in my opinion, id rather have the $200 in my pocket, since i dont think there could be much better coilovers for the money lol.
HIGHLY recommend these to others. I've ridden on D2's, Megans, and BC's, and i must say i like these the most.

If you're looking to go HELLA low, i MIGHT pass, as i had to flip the bracket as well as remove all collars to get to this height.

not toooo big of a deal. crossmember to ground is about 3 fingers i think? dont know how much lower you really want to go lol.

Razi · 11-23-2010, 02:39 AM

I daily on these as well, I think I have em 3 clicks up all around and they are slightly better than my old lowering spring combo.
I'm on 7k/6k springs and it's only slightly uncomfortable on the really whacky bumps or potholes, other than that it's fine.

At my current height, in the front I still have about 1cm left before I have to remove a collar, and the rear I can drop it down another 3 or 4 inches.

idriveattz32 · 11-23-2010, 09:01 AM

Thats good to hear. Thanks for the review. I was also impressed with their race version which I didnt know about:

Fortune Titan Coilovers - Fortune Auto USA. Home of 50mm Performance Coilovers, Titanium Shift Knobs & Titanium Lug nuts

I just thought they were another showy super low coilover company.

Corbic · 11-23-2010, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyHighPsi

it says that fortune auto basically copied the technology of making coilovers from japan. So how would these be compared to the Japanese coilovers like Tein? They are similarly priced after all

$700 less -_-

Corbic · 11-23-2010, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

anymore reviews on these? I'm torn between these and stance GR+ Pros.

I"ve had them on the 240 for two months now...daily driving in shit-hole South Bend. Siberian has better roads than this town.

They work flawless on the street. Finish looks brand new still, great company, warranty, rebuildable. The unit is beefier then Ksport as well.

I bought these for reliability and durability, not necessarily for the best performance, so far they are living up to my expectations.

teh smithers · 12-03-2010, 09:42 PM

Has anyone compared these to PBM's? I'm guessing the PBM's will be stiffer, but for those who have experienced both, it'd be interesting to know.

yingiang · 12-04-2010, 12:30 AM

if i remove 2 collars from my pbm up front i will either lay frame or hit the top of the fender frame

95KA-Turbo · 02-24-2011, 10:15 PM

I thought I'd give this a little bit of an update. I recently took my shocks up to Fortune to get them rebuilt for some Swift springs. I went from a 9k/7k set up to a 10k/9k set up. I haven't been able to drive on them yet, I just got them on the car tonight and its raining until Saturday.

As you can see the front swift springs are 1" shorter then my old ones:

The car on the ground:

If you were running anything other then OEM aero this height just wouldn't be possible. I can't even get my finger under the lowest parts of the side skirt:

As you can see the front fender (which has been flared and therefore the edge of it is up higher then a stock fender) is ~22.5" off the ground. The Fender is resting right on the tire at this point.

A side shot:

If you had a stock fender beam the tire would be resting on it for sure. I have about 1-1.5" of clearance and I have shortened mine by ~2".

Here's my shock dyno, it got a little damaged in shipping, but you can clearly see the digressive compression curve on the top part of the dyno - this is something no other coilovers have in this price range.

Terry at Fortune made a video of the rebuild process, and outlined what they do and why its so special:

I will be sure to update the thread with my thoughts on the springs/rebuild after I drive on them.

iamtheyi · 02-25-2011, 12:08 AM

So basically, people would buy these over Stance? Stance's are cheaper with the helper springs :P. Too bad they don't come stock with swifts though lol.

95KA-Turbo · 02-25-2011, 06:49 AM

I'm not trying to starting anything, but you don't see stance posting pictures of the internals of their coils or shock dynos. I had talked with stance a while back about revalving shocks and they were great with communicating with me, that is until I said I would want a shock dyno for each shock when they were done. They literally never responded to me again. This leaves me to believe they were going to tell me they did something and then not do it - ie rip me off.

Pandapants · 02-25-2011, 07:15 AM

are the fronts on top and rears on bottom? looks like the compression is the upper part of the graph, and the rebound is the bottom half, right?

unreal- · 02-25-2011, 08:37 AM

Got my fortunes the other day, put them on (on one corner) and found out that my weak ass FWD wheels (getting better wheels come summer) rub a litte bit (these coils are a LOT beefier than they look in pictures!) so i have to get a 5mm spacer.

Also i have to call fortune today and figure out whats wrong with my set. 3 out of 4 of the adjustment knobs refuse to turn. I tried using as much force as possible (like opening a brand-new ragu bottle without hitting the bottom of the glass) and they managed to turn barely 1/4 turn in either direction. The one working coilover turns without a problem and clicks and everything.

95KA-Turbo · 02-25-2011, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandapants

are the fronts on top and rears on bottom? looks like the compression is the upper part of the graph, and the rebound is the bottom half, right?

I'll get one of my friends who knows shock dynos inside and out to explain it to me completely. I do know that out of the < shapes the top part is the compression and the bottom is the rebound and that as you go from left to right the rate at which the shock is moving up and down increases. I also know that on the lower set of <s the bend in the top (compression) curve shows it is digressive, meaning it is softer when you hit a bump then when you take a corner.

Quote:

Originally Posted by unreal-

GOt my fortunes the other day, put them on (on one corner) and found out that my weak ass FWD wheels (geting better wheels come summer) rub a litte bit (these coils are a LOT beefier than they look in pictures!) so i have to get a 5mm spacer.

Also i have to call fortune today and figure out whats wrong with my set. 3 out of 4 of the adjustment knobs refuse to turn. I tried using as much force as possible (like opening a brand-new ragu bottle without hitting the bottom of the glass) and they managed to turn barely 1/4 turn. The one working coilover turns without a problem and clicks and everything.

Definitely contact Terry. He stands behind all of his products and will correct any issues you have. I assume you tried moving them both directions? Just asking to be sure, haha.

HayaiSaru · 02-25-2011, 09:49 AM

If you they are calling their shocks digressive because of the compression curve than almost all coilovers in this price range are digressive. If you compare this to a megan dyno, its the same valving, megan's look more digressive. if anything it's got less rebound force and less adjustment range than megan's. better off buying megans if you want something cheap.

megan has 600lbs at 10secs , fortune has 400lbs at 10secs.

95KA-Turbo · 02-25-2011, 09:55 AM

Am I missing something? Those shock dynos aren't even kind of the same.

The shock dyno you posted shows a nearly linear compression curve and an almost flat rebound - like the rebound is basically constantly at 100-200 ish.

HayaiSaru · 02-25-2011, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

Am I missing something? Those shock dynos aren't even kind of the same.

The shock dyno you posted shows a nearly linear compression curve and an almost flat rebound - like the rebound is basically constantly at 100-200 ish.

haha. its same. your dyno is flipped. the compression is on the bottom on megan. look at your dyno, your compression barely passes 100.

The_Other_Aaron · 02-25-2011, 10:31 AM

Anyone have any experience with their "Titan" two way adjustable coils? Looks like their coming out with a revised version here soon.

10-12-2009, 10:50 PM	#31
Z33dori Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Riverview, FL Age: 35 Posts: 5,557 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	i like these... they visually look the same as PBM, but judging by the reviews, they sound like a much more street friendly version. So thats really cool. Wouldn't mind trying these in hte future, but for now my PBM's will suffice __________________

12-15-2009, 06:21 PM	#36
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 38 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	The collars just twist off. You just unscrew the lower bracket and unscrew two of the collars, then twist the bracket back on and twist the two collars back on so you still have something to lock against the bracket. They are just below the bracket instead of on top of it. You'll have to pick between a 215/45, 225/45, and 235/40 because finding a 225/40/17 will not be cost effective. Either way, you should be able to go low enough without removing the collars with a 215/45 and 8k springs, the 9k springs are a little longer so you may have to remove the collars. __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop

12-15-2009, 08:02 PM	#38
mothon Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: oklahoma Age: 38 Posts: 835 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	They have shock dynos up on their site. __________________ instagram: madness_garages14

12-15-2009, 08:46 PM	#39
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 38 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Yes, they have Z32 lower mounts. I just converted the rears on my car. The shock dyno is at the bottom of the page: Fortune Auto USA. Home of 50mm Performance Coilovers, Titanium Shift Knobs & Titanium Lug nuts - Fortune 500 series coilovers __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop

11-23-2010, 12:25 AM	#43
iamtheyi Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brea, CA Age: 32 Posts: 2,252 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	anymore reviews on these? I'm torn between these and stance GR+ Pros. __________________

10-13-2009, 01:31 AM	#32
Charsiu Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 97 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I gotta say Taiwan does make most of the decent budget coilovers around the market these days Gotta love their bargain and performance.

12-15-2009, 05:09 PM	#34
justinedible4 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2008 Location: NC Age: 34 Posts: 134 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Will these go low enough on a stock s13 with 17x9 +12 with 225/40 to be pretty flush without removing collars? Cuz idk how to do that or flip the bracket.

12-15-2009, 06:18 PM	#35
Csomme Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: north carolinazzz Age: 33 Posts: 1,009 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	you don't know how to spin a collar off a thread?

12-19-2009, 09:03 PM	#42
SkyHighPsi Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 82 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it says that fortune auto basically copied the technology of making coilovers from japan. So how would these be compared to the Japanese coilovers like Tein? They are similarly priced after all

11-23-2010, 01:56 AM	#44
Zero-Offset Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Vancouver BC Age: 33 Posts: 402 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I have these on my S13 and i absolutely love them. On the softest setting they're about one step up from lowering springs. Its like the jump from stock suspension to lowering springs, you notice the 'stiffness' but its really not that bad. I have mine at about 5 clicks for daily, and it handles bumps really well. I was going to go with stance, but for the $200 or so more you'd have to spend, i highly doubt they could be any better than these. Well, in my opinion, id rather have the $200 in my pocket, since i dont think there could be much better coilovers for the money lol. HIGHLY recommend these to others. I've ridden on D2's, Megans, and BC's, and i must say i like these the most. If you're looking to go HELLA low, i MIGHT pass, as i had to flip the bracket as well as remove all collars to get to this height. not toooo big of a deal. crossmember to ground is about 3 fingers i think? dont know how much lower you really want to go lol.

11-23-2010, 02:39 AM	#45
Razi Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Corona Posts: 630 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	I daily on these as well, I think I have em 3 clicks up all around and they are slightly better than my old lowering spring combo. I'm on 7k/6k springs and it's only slightly uncomfortable on the really whacky bumps or potholes, other than that it's fine. At my current height, in the front I still have about 1cm left before I have to remove a collar, and the rear I can drop it down another 3 or 4 inches.

11-23-2010, 09:01 AM	#46
idriveattz32 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bel Air, MD Age: 40 Posts: 167 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thats good to hear. Thanks for the review. I was also impressed with their race version which I didnt know about: Fortune Titan Coilovers - Fortune Auto USA. Home of 50mm Performance Coilovers, Titanium Shift Knobs & Titanium Lug nuts I just thought they were another showy super low coilover company. __________________ Sold the Z, sold the S14, now I drive a G35 6MT coupe.

12-03-2010, 09:42 PM	#49
teh smithers Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mute City Age: 31 Posts: 387 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Has anyone compared these to PBM's? I'm guessing the PBM's will be stiffer, but for those who have experienced both, it'd be interesting to know.

12-04-2010, 12:30 AM	#50
yingiang Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dallas Age: 39 Posts: 1,306 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	if i remove 2 collars from my pbm up front i will either lay frame or hit the top of the fender frame

02-24-2011, 10:15 PM	#51
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 38 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I thought I'd give this a little bit of an update. I recently took my shocks up to Fortune to get them rebuilt for some Swift springs. I went from a 9k/7k set up to a 10k/9k set up. I haven't been able to drive on them yet, I just got them on the car tonight and its raining until Saturday. As you can see the front swift springs are 1" shorter then my old ones: The car on the ground: If you were running anything other then OEM aero this height just wouldn't be possible. I can't even get my finger under the lowest parts of the side skirt: As you can see the front fender (which has been flared and therefore the edge of it is up higher then a stock fender) is ~22.5" off the ground. The Fender is resting right on the tire at this point. A side shot: If you had a stock fender beam the tire would be resting on it for sure. I have about 1-1.5" of clearance and I have shortened mine by ~2". Here's my shock dyno, it got a little damaged in shipping, but you can clearly see the digressive compression curve on the top part of the dyno - this is something no other coilovers have in this price range. Terry at Fortune made a video of the rebuild process, and outlined what they do and why its so special: I will be sure to update the thread with my thoughts on the springs/rebuild after I drive on them. __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop Last edited by 95KA-Turbo; 02-25-2011 at 08:49 AM..

02-25-2011, 12:08 AM	#52
iamtheyi Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brea, CA Age: 32 Posts: 2,252 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	So basically, people would buy these over Stance? Stance's are cheaper with the helper springs :P. Too bad they don't come stock with swifts though lol. __________________

02-25-2011, 06:49 AM	#53
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 38 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I'm not trying to starting anything, but you don't see stance posting pictures of the internals of their coils or shock dynos. I had talked with stance a while back about revalving shocks and they were great with communicating with me, that is until I said I would want a shock dyno for each shock when they were done. They literally never responded to me again. This leaves me to believe they were going to tell me they did something and then not do it - ie rip me off. __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop

02-25-2011, 07:15 AM	#54
Pandapants Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SoFla Age: 34 Posts: 302 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	are the fronts on top and rears on bottom? looks like the compression is the upper part of the graph, and the rebound is the bottom half, right?

02-25-2011, 08:37 AM	#55
unreal- Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Central NJ Posts: 516 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Got my fortunes the other day, put them on (on one corner) and found out that my weak ass FWD wheels (getting better wheels come summer) rub a litte bit (these coils are a LOT beefier than they look in pictures!) so i have to get a 5mm spacer. Also i have to call fortune today and figure out whats wrong with my set. 3 out of 4 of the adjustment knobs refuse to turn. I tried using as much force as possible (like opening a brand-new ragu bottle without hitting the bottom of the glass) and they managed to turn barely 1/4 turn in either direction. The one working coilover turns without a problem and clicks and everything.

02-25-2011, 09:49 AM	#57
HayaiSaru Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: AZ Age: 94 Posts: 45 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you they are calling their shocks digressive because of the compression curve than almost all coilovers in this price range are digressive. If you compare this to a megan dyno, its the same valving, megan's look more digressive. if anything it's got less rebound force and less adjustment range than megan's. better off buying megans if you want something cheap. megan has 600lbs at 10secs , fortune has 400lbs at 10secs.

02-25-2011, 09:55 AM	#58
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 38 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Am I missing something? Those shock dynos aren't even kind of the same. The shock dyno you posted shows a nearly linear compression curve and an almost flat rebound - like the rebound is basically constantly at 100-200 ish. __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop

02-25-2011, 10:31 AM	#60
The_Other_Aaron Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: CFL Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Anyone have any experience with their "Titan" two way adjustable coils? Looks like their coming out with a revised version here soon.