Arizona's Next Immigration Target: Children of Illegals

[TheWolf]

why not just get rid of the welfare state that supports the children? or welfare for that matter. What drove the middle class to work hard every day was driving past all the poor shit box people starving in the street. They knew if they screwed up, they would be there. Seems we've lost some of that motivation.

[bb4_96]

^^ agree

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by ranger240

oh yeah compare things to the nazis..... magnitude doesn't matter when examining history



guess what? it was illegal for the mothers to be here... hence the kids shouldn't have legally been born here


other countries don't award birth certificates to non-citizen births, let alone ILLEGAL presence on their soil.
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Exactly. In the US, if your are born here, your an American. In any other country in the world, if you are born there... you are whatever your parents are.

So if your a Turk born in Germany, your still a Turk, even if your family has lived their since the Ottoman Empire invaded 300 years ago.

If your Dad was Korean, and his ancestors brought to Japan as slaves, and your born their... your still a Korean.

If Mexicans are so worried about "immigration rights" then why is Mexico so hard on its own illegal aliens from Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua. Why are they not instantly giving Citizenship, free health-care and college benefits once they cross the boarder? Are their Children instantly made Mexican citizens?

If you even actually been to real Meixco, and not a Cruise Resort, the check points, random searches and constant questioning by "Federal" police is beyond anything a common American can begin to understand.

First thing Google Pulls Up -

Michelle Malkin » Police state: How Mexico treats illegal aliens

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by TheWolf

why not just get rid of the welfare state that supports the children? or welfare for that matter. What drove the middle class to work hard every day was driving past all the poor shit box people starving in the street. They knew if they screwed up, they would be there. Seems we've lost some of that motivation.

That and Shame.

Our Great-Grandparents would have been ashamed if anyone knew they where poor, they would have died before asking for a handout or even a favor from anyone.

Today poor people are trashier then even, and DEMAND that you give them what you owe them!!

[kingkilburn]

Becoming a citizen by being born here has been the American custom since the colonial period.

If you don't like that maybe you all should be taking your asses back to western Europe to see if they will grant you citizenship based on your heritage.



Yes Mexico does have a double standard but until we secure our own boarder we are just complaining about someone else's problem.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

Becoming a citizen by being born here has been the American custom since the colonial period.

If you don't like that maybe you all should be taking your asses back to western Europe to see if they will grant you citizenship based on your heritage.



Yes Mexico does have a double standard but until we secure our own boarder we are just complaining about someone else's problem.

That's like saying "stop smoking and the cancer will go away".

Arizona can not control the NATIONAL BOARDERS, and the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT does not appear to care at this time, rather they want to suck up to the illegals to get the "Latino vote".

Since your a constitutional expect you should be aware that there is an Amendment process and Birthright is actual the 14th Amendment, it was not even part of US law until 1868 and was in fact away to legitimize newly freed slaves as not only "free people" but also Americans with American rights.

The great untamed west is gone as is the desperate need for inexpensive labor to fuel the industrial age. We have over 300 million people in this country. Its time to end the swell of "new citizens" and begin taking care of the ones we have.

If everyone in America had a job, the education and life style they wanted and it was wonderful, then sure, bring on the worlds bullshit problems. But the fact that we have so many impoverished AMERICANS, unemployed, homeless and our own drug/gang/crime problems, we don't need to be some corrupt, incomplete countries "solution" to their own problem.

[kingkilburn]

I know it wasn't the law. That's why my post was worded the way it was.

[supervenom]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

They are fascist at this point.

You have to have your papers for fear of deportation. Now they are denying papers to LEGAL citizens.

Yup. This is America. The one place on Earth that this kind of stuff is not supposed to happen.
You have to remember, there is no "American Race". No DNA test will show anyone to be an "authentic American" as you would a Jew or a German.
It's a society which is composed of a global mix.
Even the very first humans who inhabited the western hemisphere migrated here from Asia via the Bearing Strait.
No one is native to this land. Not even the dinosaurs, lol.

Originally Posted by spools420a

As a person living in AZ I support what AZ is doing,I'm ot much for immagrants trashing are land and economy leading to our biggest econimical disasters in hystory for arizona,Our land is being destroyed and our money is all being sent out to familys in forign countrys and were getting boycotted for trying to not fall into a depression?
AZ Sonoran Desert, outside Tucson, AZ - BettorsChat











this is one of a few immigrant trafficking highways from the mexican border to arizona in the senora desert.


And people think AZ's to strict about our immigration laws lol please,If they dont want to be so targeted by the community and being unwanted then maybe they should,..um maybe clean up after themselves for starters.

Hmmm. looks like most of that cloth is bio-degradable....

Good luck working the fields for your cabbage and carrots, dumb ass, lol.