Smog Legal Japanese engines? Inquire within.

[tknbkthrsdy4anfg]

This maybe a big undertaking, but can everyone that is interested send an email to [email protected] So i can keep a list of people interested easily at hand.
It would be good if you could include where you're livin, what chassis you have and what engine you have and maybe contact info.

[drftsub]

mail sent, thanks for workin on this

[oscar]

email sent. thanks for all your dedication and work. would also pay 500 for this

[timtiminy]

email sent. hopefully we can really get the ball rolling on this.

[guitaraholic]

How much is the Total Cost going to be. I think what will keep people from jumping on board when it comes does to the money is the fact that they might figure, why pay for it when others can put forth the money to make it legal (free riding) there is a way we can get around that. Find out the total cost of it. Then pretty much make the total cost and divide it by the amounts that are paid in by everyone. Kind of like buying stock. Then, once the dues are paid, and its legal, everyone who has put in makes their share of profit from future people that go to legalize. The more you initially invest. The more you make in the future.

Just throwing that out as an idea.

[s13gold]

hell yeahh im interested.

[koukikat180sx]

It would be nice to have my car legal. Then I don't have to buy a truck and trailer. I'd be willing to pay to have it legalized.

[pablo180]

Any new progress on this?

[kenshinS14sks]

i'll send an email after work =) like above says ^^^ any progress? what are the things that still need to get done... besides everything?

[tknbkthrsdy4anfg]

Hey all, sorry no new news yet, still working on compiling information.
more probably wednesday.
Thank you all who have sent me emails.

[drift freaq]

ok let me say this since no one has spoken up about it. Do not use the U.S. SR20DE as the basis for your arguement. The state specifically states that any FWD configuration is not legal in a RWD setup period!! That comes straight from the State CARB referee , who I had a big discussion with once about this stuff.
If your going to get your certification its going to have to be off the SR20det , RB25DET etc.
I should remind you, the biggest problem you will have is the fact that we are talking about engines only.
YOu stated in your first post about cars. Now if you want to do the SR thing right what you need to do is get it certified through your company in a RHD car. Then it would be legal for people to swap the engine into our LHD cars because the engine was certified in a car in California. I think your boss would say its to much trouble to certify the engine only since it was never offered on a U.S. platform in RWD configuration.

Once you have a car certified in California its another story though i.e. hence the whole statement by me about using a RHD car to do it. Now it just so happens that the only skyline ever certified in the U.S. was a R33GTST through the DOT and EPA by Motorex. This is on the books for anyone to look up as well.
Given that, the engine with the most likely chance to get a CARB E.O. sticker through your company would be the RB25DET the engine in the D.O.T.'d EPA's R33 Skyline GTST!! It would probably require a dual cat setup as that was what Motorex did.
So since that is most likely to succeed I smile bigtime. Why? I own a RB25DET powered S13. I would love that certification. Please contact me or I will contact you as I think we would most likely have quick success with that a lot sooner than the whole SR deal. Yes I will pay $500 for that.

[tknbkthrsdy4anfg]

I wasn't planning on using the FWD SR as the basis, just as a fulcrum that the engine family (SR20DE) has been certified in the US. I am very aware that there are significant differences between them, most obvious is the turbo.
The reasons I chose to want to certify the JDM engine in the USDM car is the fact that the evaporative emissions (gas cap, canister, vac lines etc...) have already been certified in the US.
Everyone that has valuable info like this please, let me know! its all invaluable to the cause!

[pbcstylez]

email sent! (gluck w/ your progress)

[coreansurfer]

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Given that, the engine with the most likely chance to get a CARB E.O. sticker through your company would be the RB25DET the engine in the D.O.T.'d EPA's R33 Skyline GTST!! It would probably require a dual cat setup as that was what Motorex did.

this makes me happy

[nrg]

This topic has came up many times before. If you ran 100% of the emission stuff in the sr20det; you can pass SMOG with flying colors. The only thing it wont pass is visuals. The reason why most fail smog in many states is because when a sr20det swap is done to a usdm car, the AIV port is cut and pluged up (hits the steering). The exhaust gas recirculation valve is also removed along the charcoal canister and other such emission equipments.

You would have to make custom AIV valves just to get it all working correctly

[tknbkthrsdy4anfg]

Originally Posted by nrg

The only thing it wont pass is visuals.

Have you read the rest of the thread?
Thats the whole point.
I know it will pass tailpipe, but not visuals.

Originally Posted by nrg

This topic has came up many times before. If you ran 100% of the emission stuff in the sr20det; you can pass SMOG with flying colors. The only thing it wont pass is visuals. The reason why most fail smog in many states is because when a sr20det swap is done to a usdm car, the AIV port is cut and pluged up (hits the steering). The exhaust gas recirculation valve is also removed along the charcoal canister and other such emission equipments.

You would have to make custom AIV valves just to get it all working correctly

However, thank you for this part, this is the kind of info I need

[Psycho 240 Freak]

Good LUCK!! I'm originally from San Jose, CA and have nephews in Stockton, CA who'll definitely be interested in this. We know how much of a haggle CA smog laws are. Smog in CA is one of the reasons I sold my last S14. BTW my nephew's last smog passed the sniffer too and that was with a hi-flow cat.

[domo dorigato]

interested in this thing as well!! keep it up

[GabeS14]

I am sure if there was a new thread with the topic
(willing to pay 400 bucks to legalize your SR????)
and then give a quick explanation of what has been said here and the email you gave us, you would probably get hundreds of email messages withing the next few days.
I just happened to stumble upon the thread..
I am sure that any SR owner that actually read this thread would support and want this, so lets get the word out in the other threads if possible too..
hope the mods dont mind.

[tknbkthrsdy4anfg]

+1
Hey everyone, thanks for your support, I have gotten a few awesome emails and am really excited about getting this off the ground. Keep the support comin!

[Psycho 240 Freak]

I'd post this thread on other forums too, but I'm not sure about how happy mods of those other threads would be. I even put this on my Myspace. Gotta get the word out!

[tknbkthrsdy4anfg]

I guess I could create a myspace group

[coupelove626]

Originally Posted by sr20detman

for anyone who passes smog , thats great but you will not pass a test only station with an SR. and the visual part is bullshit, my car passed sniffer with no cat. no egr, with upgraded fuel pump. no charcoal canister, no egr. just visual that gets us.

SR20DET man is right, the SR does run cleaner than KA. *thank you nissan for coil on plug* hahhahaha

The visual does it for us lol. You have to hook up the current probe on cylinder number 1. There is an obvious problem...I think the smog machine tells the technician what kind of ignition system our cars should have.

[tknbkthrsdy4anfg]

Originally Posted by coupelove626

SR20DET man is right, the SR does run cleaner than KA. *thank you nissan for coil on plug* hahhahaha

The visual does it for us lol. You have to hook up the current probe on cylinder number 1. There is an obvious problem...I think the smog machine tells the technician what kind of ignition system our cars should have.

Wow, again have you not read the rest of the thread?
We know this, and that is why the car needs a CARB e.o. to pass.

However I would like to state again that it isnt simply as easy as getting a sticker to say which emissions equiptment the car should now have, it has to pass a more rigorous tailpipe test then just a smog.

The car has to be on a dyno loaded to the approx. inertia weight of the car (I think). Is cold started and then has to follow a dyno trace simulating road conditions. Then the car is "hot soaked" and then hot started and follows the trace again. I believe that is all the test will take since we are aiming to certify the JDM engine in the USDM car, it wont have to take the evaporative emissions test.

[tknbkthrsdy4anfg]

Hey everybody, I am writing a formal project proposal covering all SR and RB models as well as S13 and S14 chassis. I could use useful information and also someone to proof read and make sure my info is correct, because I am sourcing it from the FAQ threads here, on other forums, on sites and on wikipedia.
Edit:
S13 SR Redtop
S13 SR Black top
S14 SR
S15 SR
RB20DET
RB25DET
RB26DETT

89- 98 240sx models

[cmcdougle]

what do you need read? What info do you need? I know a little bit about this stuff. I am going to email you. . .

[GabeS14]

Originally Posted by tknbkthrsdy4anfg

I guess I could create a myspace group

Yessssss
good start.

[bardabe]

im in! lmk asap 400$ legalisation owns the 400$ ref ticket + hastle + court + time + lunch + gas.

[tknbkthrsdy4anfg]

Lunch, hahaha

[coreansurfer]

its the lunch part that pisses me off, i dont even care about the ticket or the court fees, haha