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Nikeboy355 · 06-09-2007, 11:04 AM

Disconnect the power cable to the engine (starter), diagnose where the problem is, and then reconnect the engine...

I suspect you just grounded something you shouldn't have... Check the fuses, especially the main fuse...

benefitx · 06-09-2007, 01:04 PM

ive checked everything.........but the thing is there is no interior power and the if i turn on the lights, they light up but dont go up...like sleepy eyes.....

radio doesnt work...starter has no power. nothing is getting power...wtf!

HellonFire · 06-09-2007, 02:02 PM

You fucked up rebuilding your motor. You said earlier it took you, a friend, and a breaker bar to spin your crank. The starter can't spin that. Way to go.

Tyler

benefitx · 06-09-2007, 02:07 PM

i had to break it free...it started spinning freely after that...just like how nikeboy said...and what the fuck does that have to do with the starter and interior not getting power?

johngriff · 06-09-2007, 02:50 PM

Ehhh...?? Did you hook up the batter cables backwards?

Test the voltage off the stater + wire, and ground the other lead of the multimeter to the Intake Manifold. If you are not getting full battery voltage, you have bad grounds.

HellonFire · 06-09-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by benefitx

i had to break it free...it started spinning freely after that...just like how nikeboy said...and what the fuck does that have to do with the starter and interior not getting power?

Ah, I didn't see that it spun freely after that.

And if you would pay attention, I said the starter wouldn't be able to turn a crank that was that hard to turn.

Confusing, I know.

Tyler

benefitx · 06-09-2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by johngriff

Ehhh...?? Did you hook up the batter cables backwards?

Test the voltage off the stater + wire, and ground the other lead of the multimeter to the Intake Manifold. If you are not getting full battery voltage, you have bad grounds.

i have a surge protector thing it shows the voltage...its 12.3 and 13 when i was jumping it

benefitx · 06-09-2007, 03:02 PM

even with bad grounds...wouldnt interior still get power? when the engine was out of the car i could play the radio and stuff

benefitx · 06-09-2007, 04:20 PM

still nothing.....

JDS Performance · 06-09-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by benefitx

still nothing.....

you obviously blew a fuse - or toasted something - get a tester and have a feild day finding it!

benefitx · 06-09-2007, 04:31 PM

im about to pull each and everyone of the fuses in the kick panel

benefitx · 06-09-2007, 04:52 PM

pulled every single fuse...they are all good...

JDS Performance · 06-09-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by benefitx

pulled every single fuse...they are all good...

now you have the box in the engine bay - and then all your relays and then check for toasted wires! It will take you alot longer than 1 hr to do this!

benefitx · 06-09-2007, 05:33 PM

seat belts arent working either....i think i just need to charge the battery longer

benefitx · 06-09-2007, 06:16 PM

well its not the battery..

benefitx · 06-09-2007, 11:09 PM

this is what i mean by pop ups stay down but lights turn on...

cool effect but doesnt help any...

and do these two plugs plug into anything?? they both come out of the fuse box in the engine bay...

DOOK · 06-09-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by benefitx

even with bad grounds...wouldnt interior still get power? when the engine was out of the car i could play the radio and stuff

not necessarily, I haven't had this problem on a nissan, but had it on an acura a few years ago. Basically the ECU wasn't grounded and ended up burning up the main relay somehow, may not have been connected at all, but they were both present. Do you have anyone nearby who has soldering tools? I would get a magnifying glass and start checking relay connections and/or burnt wiring.

benefitx · 06-10-2007, 12:02 AM

which relay? ecu is getting power though

DOOK · 06-10-2007, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by benefitx

which relay? ecu is getting power though

getting power, is it sending any signal?

benefitx · 06-10-2007, 12:28 AM

how do i check? i only checked if its getting power by putting the keys in and turning the screw for the code...and it blinks light...

but hey i rechecked the fuses real close and the 75A alternator fuse is blown

benefitx · 06-10-2007, 12:30 AM

what do i solder it back up

benefitx · 06-10-2007, 12:46 AM

i searched 75a alternator fuse...bingo...tons of other people having the same problem when this fuse goes out...blank clock , whacky interior shit...battery dieing...im kinda happy that if i get a new fuse or whatever it will work but i dont want to be dissapointed like the other 4000 things ive tried already

benefitx · 06-10-2007, 01:01 AM

ok so i rigged the terminals of the relay so they were just about touching each other...plugged it in and voila , everything works again..clock , radio , lights... but still starter gets no power...just "click , click , click"

benefitx · 06-10-2007, 11:20 AM

would the clutch slave have to be bled for it to start? is that whats keeping it from starting?

Big Bronze Rim · 06-10-2007, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by benefitx

would the clutch slave have to be bled for it to start? is that whats keeping it from starting?

The clutch slave has absolutely nothing to do with the car starting. If the clicking you are hearing is the starter solenoid, you either don't have battery power to the starter, your engine ground is not good, or the battery is low. The start circuit is very simple, it should be easy to trace why it won't start. Use a DVOM to check the start signal on the solenoid - it should have 12v when cranking. You should have 12V from the battery to the solenoid, and you should have a ground strap from the block to the battery. That is all it needs to start.

benefitx · 06-10-2007, 12:38 PM

i have all of those...the starter has both the thing that plugs in and the round thing that goes around the stud and a nut attaches to it....the engine is grounded also...i have 12.6 volts from the battery and 13.0 when jump starting....it doesnt make sense

Big Bronze Rim · 06-10-2007, 12:45 PM

Have you measured voltage on the start signal to the solenoid with a DVOM yet? Are you getting power there when you try and crank?

benefitx · 06-10-2007, 12:47 PM

the stud one or the plug in one

Big Bronze Rim · 06-10-2007, 12:51 PM

The small gauge wire that plugs on - it should have battery voltage to it when you are cranking. It is what engages the starter solenoid. If there is no power, you get no crank. The stud from the + battery post should have battery voltage all the time.

benefitx · 06-10-2007, 12:58 PM

yeah the stud...i accidently moved it and it started sparking everywhere ...could that blow something?...i guess ill check the plug thing for power

06-09-2007, 02:50 PM	#125
johngriff Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 4,103 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: johngriff Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Ehhh...?? Did you hook up the batter cables backwards? Test the voltage off the stater + wire, and ground the other lead of the multimeter to the Intake Manifold. If you are not getting full battery voltage, you have bad grounds. __________________ [email protected]

06-09-2007, 11:04 AM	#121
Nikeboy355 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 44 Posts: 734 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Disconnect the power cable to the engine (starter), diagnose where the problem is, and then reconnect the engine... I suspect you just grounded something you shouldn't have... Check the fuses, especially the main fuse...

06-09-2007, 01:04 PM	#122
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ive checked everything.........but the thing is there is no interior power and the if i turn on the lights, they light up but dont go up...like sleepy eyes..... radio doesnt work...starter has no power. nothing is getting power...wtf!

06-09-2007, 02:02 PM	#123
HellonFire Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Georgia Age: 38 Posts: 740 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	You fucked up rebuilding your motor. You said earlier it took you, a friend, and a breaker bar to spin your crank. The starter can't spin that. Way to go. Tyler

06-09-2007, 02:07 PM	#124
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i had to break it free...it started spinning freely after that...just like how nikeboy said...and what the fuck does that have to do with the starter and interior not getting power?

06-09-2007, 03:02 PM	#128
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	even with bad grounds...wouldnt interior still get power? when the engine was out of the car i could play the radio and stuff

06-09-2007, 04:20 PM	#129
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	still nothing.....

06-09-2007, 04:31 PM	#131
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im about to pull each and everyone of the fuses in the kick panel

06-09-2007, 04:52 PM	#132
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	pulled every single fuse...they are all good...

06-09-2007, 05:33 PM	#134
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	seat belts arent working either....i think i just need to charge the battery longer

06-09-2007, 06:16 PM	#135
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well its not the battery..

06-09-2007, 11:09 PM	#136
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this is what i mean by pop ups stay down but lights turn on... cool effect but doesnt help any... and do these two plugs plug into anything?? they both come out of the fuse box in the engine bay...

06-10-2007, 12:02 AM	#138
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	which relay? ecu is getting power though

06-10-2007, 12:28 AM	#140
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	how do i check? i only checked if its getting power by putting the keys in and turning the screw for the code...and it blinks light... but hey i rechecked the fuses real close and the 75A alternator fuse is blown

06-10-2007, 12:30 AM	#141
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what do i solder it back up

06-10-2007, 12:46 AM	#142
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i searched 75a alternator fuse...bingo...tons of other people having the same problem when this fuse goes out...blank clock , whacky interior shit...battery dieing...im kinda happy that if i get a new fuse or whatever it will work but i dont want to be dissapointed like the other 4000 things ive tried already

06-10-2007, 01:01 AM	#143
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok so i rigged the terminals of the relay so they were just about touching each other...plugged it in and voila , everything works again..clock , radio , lights... but still starter gets no power...just "click , click , click"

06-10-2007, 11:20 AM	#144
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	would the clutch slave have to be bled for it to start? is that whats keeping it from starting?

06-10-2007, 12:38 PM	#146
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have all of those...the starter has both the thing that plugs in and the round thing that goes around the stud and a nut attaches to it....the engine is grounded also...i have 12.6 volts from the battery and 13.0 when jump starting....it doesnt make sense

06-10-2007, 12:45 PM	#147
Big Bronze Rim Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Age: 45 Posts: 173 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Have you measured voltage on the start signal to the solenoid with a DVOM yet? Are you getting power there when you try and crank?

06-10-2007, 12:47 PM	#148
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the stud one or the plug in one

06-10-2007, 12:51 PM	#149
Big Bronze Rim Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Age: 45 Posts: 173 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The small gauge wire that plugs on - it should have battery voltage to it when you are cranking. It is what engages the starter solenoid. If there is no power, you get no crank. The stud from the + battery post should have battery voltage all the time.

06-10-2007, 12:58 PM	#150
benefitx Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: suwanee ga Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah the stud...i accidently moved it and it started sparking everywhere ...could that blow something?...i guess ill check the plug thing for power