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Iwant2slide_S13 · 05-20-2008, 09:10 PM

DAMN want more updates,

noname7198 · 05-23-2008, 05:46 PM

I posted in the WTB section, but I figured I'd post here too incase anyone following this build wants to help us out.

We need an intake manifold gasket and a wiring harness so we can get this thing running for DOW on the 28th. If anyone has either that would really really help us out.

We have a harness, but it is incredibly messed up. And we ordered the gasket 2 weeks ago, but I think we got ripped off. This is so frustrating.

Hawaiian240 · 05-26-2008, 01:55 PM

Awesome buildup!! Keep up the good work!

Smurf_240SX · 05-26-2008, 02:14 PM

This is really coming out great! cant wait to see more.

nevaland9 · 05-26-2008, 02:35 PM

wow sick build, any ideas on a color yet?

keep up the good work man.

BBSilvia · 05-26-2008, 03:10 PM

WOW!!! amazing build cant wait to see the updates!!!!!

turboh224g · 05-29-2008, 04:47 PM

This has been a rough couple of days. Jamie was in town probably for the last weekend for a while. That means we were extremely focused on getting as far as possible. Jamie got most of the suspension set to near zero as a starting point, wired lights, finished engine odds and ends, and kept working on the fiberglass dash. What did I do WIRE. It seemed like everything we had was different than what most people get with an sr harness and motor. I spent a lot of time looking things up on Zilvia trying to make sense of what we had. We are very close to running as long as ther are no major issues. We will keep you posted
JKP

noname7198 · 07-18-2008, 08:06 PM

Well, it's been a long time since the last update, so I figured I'd give it one. Not a lot has changed. You may have seen our other threads about trying to get the car to start. Basically the wiring is done (though it needs to be cleaned up a bit more). The car cranks and backfires, but just won't start. I ended up selling my bike and buying a running sr powered s13 hatch. We've been using parts off that to test and eliminate possible problems with the coupe. We were having problems with the power fc, so that is gone as well as the z32 maf. Now the car is on a stock ecu and stock maf (for now). We're gonna mess with it a little more, but I'm trying to save some money in case I have to pay someone to get it running. We found a race shop close by that's going to do the alignment. If we can't get it to start I'll just tow it there and pay them to figure it out.
We are also working on the dash and body. Trying to get it all primed up and ready for paint.

Sorry I only have a couple new pics:

Engine bay:

5 point harnesses installed:

Welded the stock open diff. The car has a Kaaz 2 way on it now, but I want to try this at some point.

racepar1 · 07-18-2008, 08:09 PM

You should weld the side gears to the case as well for extra strength. I would be worried about those 4 small welds breaking.

EDIT: I have seen some of ......'s (I forget the guy's name, but he sells a TON of welded diffs here on zilvia) diffs and the whole dam diff is welded everywhere. That's probably why one of his diffs has never broken as far as anyone knows.

Landers · 07-18-2008, 08:10 PM

Glad to see some updates, Car is looking good. Thumbs up!

turboh224g · 07-19-2008, 11:30 AM

This is my first welded diff. What do you mean by welding the side gears as well? I read some threads and did 4 points on both sides 3 welds deep with a tig. What else should I do? Thanks,
JKP

HyperTek · 07-19-2008, 01:10 PM

you could try welding the sides.. The diff in my fc was welded like yours, previous owner did a few track events in it.. but shit broke on me from daily driving it lol.. just threw another one in, but welded the sides as well.

s13 @ fullboost · 07-19-2008, 04:42 PM

This looks really good can not wait for the next update =]

DDDsquad_s13panda · 07-19-2008, 10:08 PM

WOW jst readin this is addicting. i wish i have the time and money. even a place to take apart my S13 and get nearly as yours. way to go bro..

cant wait for the new pics.

HunsakerS14 · 07-20-2008, 12:38 AM

fuck that engine bay is clean and fuckin sick lookin.
+1 for balleresque

ka-turbo · 08-14-2008, 04:36 PM

hate to bring this back from the dead but any update on this

awesome build want to know soo much more on welding some professional welders said that they have to use a 220 on the chasis but they never stitch welded before they said they need that size for penetration what do you think

turboh224g · 08-14-2008, 07:13 PM

I had no problems with getting good penetration. Before I started stitch welding I took a few pieces of scrap we had cut out and played around with the heat until I got the setting right. With My friend 135 we were able to get good penetration without burning through. Most of the places you are stitch welding are pretty thin only 2 or 3 layers of thin gauge sheet. In my opinion a lower amp welder worked just fine. Thanks,
JKP

noname7198 · 08-15-2008, 08:18 AM

Sorry there hasn't been any updates. We have been trying to get the car to start for a while now. Everything we check seems to be working correctly, it turns over and backfires, but will not start still. We are out of idea's, so I'm giving up and paying someone to get the starting issue sorted out. They will also do the alignment while it's there. There will be an update when we get the car back. Then it's just body work and paint until I can afford a bigger turbo...

noname7198 · 09-08-2008, 01:00 PM

The guys at RT Tuning have found the problem. One of the connecting rod caps was bent by .0024" and put too much pressure on the crank so it couldn't turn fast enough to start. So the motor came out again:

Good thing the whole front end comes off with 4 bolts.

Here's the problem:

So the motor is torn down again. The crank is back at the machine shop. When the new bearings get here, the motor will get put back together and go back in the car. And then it WILL START (capitalized for optimism).

Once it's running RT Tuning will do the alignment and we should be good to go.

Nikeboy355 · 09-08-2008, 11:15 PM

This is an awesome build man... Can't wait to see it done...

I especially like the fiberglass work on the dash and door panels...

civilized_drifter · 09-27-2008, 03:25 PM

any updates man?

neverrain · 09-27-2008, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racepar1

You should weld the side gears to the case as well for extra strength. I would be worried about those 4 small welds breaking.

EDIT: I have seen some of ......'s (I forget the guy's name, but he sells a TON of welded diffs here on zilvia) diffs and the whole dam diff is welded everywhere. That's probably why one of his diffs has never broken as far as anyone knows.

Aron, you are thinking of Weld Locd. You can find his thread here Offical Weld Locd Thread. Supposedly has never had a welded diff break. Not a bad price either.

tricky_ab · 09-28-2008, 09:10 PM

This build is awesome, keep up the great work!

ZenkiCam · 10-20-2008, 08:00 PM

old thread, but i love this build. updates?

noname7198 · 11-04-2008, 08:50 PM

It's been a long few weeks, but the car is finally running. There are still a few minor things to work out, but it's almost ready to drive.

We put the rear 5 lug on and mounted the body kit:

The lights work:

We are giving up on the fiberglass dash for now. It doesn't really weigh much less than the cut up stock dash, so that's what's going in for now.

And yes, we still need to clean up the wiring under there.

and the latest motor shots:

HS13KLS · 11-04-2008, 09:02 PM

so what high pressure ps line are you using? the one from ma motorsports?

also

on the welded diff..

ever think of taking a 1/4 piece of steel and cut it to size so it slaps in place where the "square" hole is in the diff and then weld that also. to make it even stronger

ZenkiCam · 11-04-2008, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HS13KLS

so what high pressure ps line are you using? the one from ma motorsports?

also

on the welded diff..

ever think of taking a 1/4 piece of steel and cut it to size so it slaps in place where the "square" hole is in the diff and then weld that also. to make it even stronger

that is very common. my welded diff if plated on both sides with a 3/8in steel gusset, tig welded.

also, noname, exactly how many wires are you running in your car? it looks like a lot behind the dash, but all i see is ignition, fuel, lights, wiper, fan, and your gauges. why does it look like there are way more wires?

also how did you wire your lights up? did you use factory connectors or straight wired?

turboh224g · 11-05-2008, 04:29 AM

The wiring in this car is extremely simple. We are running the engine harness only and have direct wired all the accessories. Currently there is still a lot of the excess wires from the engine harness in the car. We are going to get rid of everything that is not needed eventually. For right now we want to keep the harness uncovered and accessable in case we need to make any changes. when we are sure the car is perfect we will get rid of everything and tape up the whole harness. There are a lot more fab pics that will be up this weekend. radiator protector, rear bumper support, v-mount ducting for this bumper. Later,
JKP

edp · 11-05-2008, 02:17 PM

In our sea island climate with all of the salt in the air we generally wire brush surface rusted areas to remove the looser rust and then use a spray bottle filled with Ospho to kill the rust and convert it to iron phosphate. Even unprotected, this treatment will preserve the steel for years. We do putty, prime and paint over the neutralized rust. We also spray Ospho liberally into hollow chassis sections etc to kill rust that can't be accessed any other way.
Great build and nice work. Keep up the progress reports.

PoorMans180SX · 11-14-2008, 07:01 PM

Very nice. Awesome that you're doing all this in your garage. Keep it coming!

05-20-2008, 09:10 PM	#91
Iwant2slide_S13 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Las Vegas Age: 35 Posts: 76 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	DAMN want more updates, __________________ Made a lot of mistakes to get here, But now that im here i aint goin no where

05-26-2008, 01:55 PM	#93
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05-26-2008, 02:35 PM	#95
nevaland9 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Island, New York/Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,251 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: nevaland9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow sick build, any ideas on a color yet? keep up the good work man. __________________ CEO @ Sticky Garage 516-993-7315 -Jason Check out my warehouse!

05-26-2008, 03:10 PM	#96
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07-18-2008, 08:10 PM	#100
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05-23-2008, 05:46 PM	#92
noname7198 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: MA Age: 38 Posts: 339 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I posted in the WTB section, but I figured I'd post here too incase anyone following this build wants to help us out. We need an intake manifold gasket and a wiring harness so we can get this thing running for DOW on the 28th. If anyone has either that would really really help us out. We have a harness, but it is incredibly messed up. And we ordered the gasket 2 weeks ago, but I think we got ripped off. This is so frustrating.

05-26-2008, 02:14 PM	#94
Smurf_240SX Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So Cal- I.E Age: 35 Posts: 880 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	This is really coming out great! cant wait to see more.

05-29-2008, 04:47 PM	#97
turboh224g Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: philly Age: 43 Posts: 206 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	This has been a rough couple of days. Jamie was in town probably for the last weekend for a while. That means we were extremely focused on getting as far as possible. Jamie got most of the suspension set to near zero as a starting point, wired lights, finished engine odds and ends, and kept working on the fiberglass dash. What did I do WIRE. It seemed like everything we had was different than what most people get with an sr harness and motor. I spent a lot of time looking things up on Zilvia trying to make sense of what we had. We are very close to running as long as ther are no major issues. We will keep you posted JKP

07-18-2008, 08:06 PM	#98
noname7198 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: MA Age: 38 Posts: 339 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Well, it's been a long time since the last update, so I figured I'd give it one. Not a lot has changed. You may have seen our other threads about trying to get the car to start. Basically the wiring is done (though it needs to be cleaned up a bit more). The car cranks and backfires, but just won't start. I ended up selling my bike and buying a running sr powered s13 hatch. We've been using parts off that to test and eliminate possible problems with the coupe. We were having problems with the power fc, so that is gone as well as the z32 maf. Now the car is on a stock ecu and stock maf (for now). We're gonna mess with it a little more, but I'm trying to save some money in case I have to pay someone to get it running. We found a race shop close by that's going to do the alignment. If we can't get it to start I'll just tow it there and pay them to figure it out. We are also working on the dash and body. Trying to get it all primed up and ready for paint. Sorry I only have a couple new pics: Engine bay: 5 point harnesses installed: Welded the stock open diff. The car has a Kaaz 2 way on it now, but I want to try this at some point.

07-18-2008, 08:09 PM	#99
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 41 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	You should weld the side gears to the case as well for extra strength. I would be worried about those 4 small welds breaking. EDIT: I have seen some of ......'s (I forget the guy's name, but he sells a TON of welded diffs here on zilvia) diffs and the whole dam diff is welded everywhere. That's probably why one of his diffs has never broken as far as anyone knows.

07-19-2008, 11:30 AM	#101
turboh224g Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: philly Age: 43 Posts: 206 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	This is my first welded diff. What do you mean by welding the side gears as well? I read some threads and did 4 points on both sides 3 welds deep with a tig. What else should I do? Thanks, JKP

07-19-2008, 01:10 PM	#102
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	you could try welding the sides.. The diff in my fc was welded like yours, previous owner did a few track events in it.. but shit broke on me from daily driving it lol.. just threw another one in, but welded the sides as well. __________________ Keep it Classy

07-19-2008, 04:42 PM	#103
s13 @ fullboost Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: St.Petersburg,FL Posts: 2,549 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	This looks really good can not wait for the next update =] __________________

07-19-2008, 10:08 PM	#104
DDDsquad_s13panda BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fontana, IE. Age: 37 Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	WOW jst readin this is addicting. i wish i have the time and money. even a place to take apart my S13 and get nearly as yours. way to go bro.. cant wait for the new pics.

07-20-2008, 12:38 AM	#105
HunsakerS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oly WA Age: 35 Posts: 446 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	fuck that engine bay is clean and fuckin sick lookin. +1 for balleresque

08-14-2008, 04:36 PM	#106
ka-turbo Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ANTELOPE VALLEY Age: 36 Posts: 297 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	hate to bring this back from the dead but any update on this awesome build want to know soo much more on welding some professional welders said that they have to use a 220 on the chasis but they never stitch welded before they said they need that size for penetration what do you think __________________

08-14-2008, 07:13 PM	#107
turboh224g Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: philly Age: 43 Posts: 206 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I had no problems with getting good penetration. Before I started stitch welding I took a few pieces of scrap we had cut out and played around with the heat until I got the setting right. With My friend 135 we were able to get good penetration without burning through. Most of the places you are stitch welding are pretty thin only 2 or 3 layers of thin gauge sheet. In my opinion a lower amp welder worked just fine. Thanks, JKP

08-15-2008, 08:18 AM	#108
noname7198 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: MA Age: 38 Posts: 339 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Sorry there hasn't been any updates. We have been trying to get the car to start for a while now. Everything we check seems to be working correctly, it turns over and backfires, but will not start still. We are out of idea's, so I'm giving up and paying someone to get the starting issue sorted out. They will also do the alignment while it's there. There will be an update when we get the car back. Then it's just body work and paint until I can afford a bigger turbo...

09-08-2008, 01:00 PM	#109
noname7198 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: MA Age: 38 Posts: 339 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	The guys at RT Tuning have found the problem. One of the connecting rod caps was bent by .0024" and put too much pressure on the crank so it couldn't turn fast enough to start. So the motor came out again: Good thing the whole front end comes off with 4 bolts. Here's the problem: So the motor is torn down again. The crank is back at the machine shop. When the new bearings get here, the motor will get put back together and go back in the car. And then it WILL START (capitalized for optimism). Once it's running RT Tuning will do the alignment and we should be good to go.

09-08-2008, 11:15 PM	#110
Nikeboy355 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 44 Posts: 734 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This is an awesome build man... Can't wait to see it done... I especially like the fiberglass work on the dash and door panels... __________________ http://respectvolkracing.blogspot.com/

09-27-2008, 03:25 PM	#111
civilized_drifter Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: spring hill, TN Age: 35 Posts: 584 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	any updates man? __________________

09-28-2008, 09:10 PM	#113
tricky_ab Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It's dark, and hell is hot! Posts: 9,414 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	This build is awesome, keep up the great work!

10-20-2008, 08:00 PM	#114
ZenkiCam Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta Georgia Posts: 931 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	old thread, but i love this build. updates?

11-04-2008, 08:50 PM	#115
noname7198 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: MA Age: 38 Posts: 339 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	It's been a long few weeks, but the car is finally running. There are still a few minor things to work out, but it's almost ready to drive. We put the rear 5 lug on and mounted the body kit: The lights work: We are giving up on the fiberglass dash for now. It doesn't really weigh much less than the cut up stock dash, so that's what's going in for now. And yes, we still need to clean up the wiring under there. and the latest motor shots: Last edited by noname7198; 11-10-2008 at 11:32 AM..

11-04-2008, 09:02 PM	#116
HS13KLS Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Illinois/California Age: 34 Posts: 1,114 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	so what high pressure ps line are you using? the one from ma motorsports? also on the welded diff.. ever think of taking a 1/4 piece of steel and cut it to size so it slaps in place where the "square" hole is in the diff and then weld that also. to make it even stronger

11-05-2008, 04:29 AM	#118
turboh224g Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: philly Age: 43 Posts: 206 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	wiring The wiring in this car is extremely simple. We are running the engine harness only and have direct wired all the accessories. Currently there is still a lot of the excess wires from the engine harness in the car. We are going to get rid of everything that is not needed eventually. For right now we want to keep the harness uncovered and accessable in case we need to make any changes. when we are sure the car is perfect we will get rid of everything and tape up the whole harness. There are a lot more fab pics that will be up this weekend. radiator protector, rear bumper support, v-mount ducting for this bumper. Later, JKP

11-05-2008, 02:17 PM	#119
edp Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Barbados, West Indies Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	In our sea island climate with all of the salt in the air we generally wire brush surface rusted areas to remove the looser rust and then use a spray bottle filled with Ospho to kill the rust and convert it to iron phosphate. Even unprotected, this treatment will preserve the steel for years. We do putty, prime and paint over the neutralized rust. We also spray Ospho liberally into hollow chassis sections etc to kill rust that can't be accessed any other way. Great build and nice work. Keep up the progress reports.

11-14-2008, 07:01 PM	#120
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,574 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Very nice. Awesome that you're doing all this in your garage. Keep it coming! __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.