school me on oil cooler setups.

[dopplganger1]

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

is that the inline bypass? also would 1/2in. or 3/8in. line size be better?

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by dopplganger1

Perma-Cool 1070 - Perma-Cool Remote Mount Oil Thermostats - summitracing.com

is that the inline bypass? also would 1/2in. or 3/8in. line size be better?

Yeah that would work.

Remote Oil Thermostats - summitracing.com

[fromxtor]

I'm bumping this thread because it contains a wealth of info and has helped me to decide what I wanted to do. This is a list of the setup I am going with:

Stance oil block (uses -10 AN fittings like the Tomei, but cheaper)
Trans-dapt oil filter mount
-10 AN lines built by me at work
Core(havent decided which brand to use)

^^I'm doing all this for like $250-$275, heres pics of the oil block and filter mount to give you an idea.

[Dousan_PG]

dont use that oil mount
you'll blow way too much on fittings and lines, use this one:

AN PLUMBING.COM Earls performance products, Hose ends Hose,Adapters, fittings

part: 2178



or any similar type from summit
get the 'in/out' type not that 4 business. -10 fittings are $ and unecesary to have so much plumbing.
coolers: earls or setrab

[Om1kron]

I'm assuming you don't run an oil thermostat on your relocation and cooler setup because it's a track car Aaron?

[Dousan_PG]

i would do it same w/ street car
i would just tape my oil cooler or put some cardboard in front of it.
but thats just me.

[Om1kron]

haha yeah I caught that earlier in the thread... duct tape on the streets, no duct tape on the track.

[GSXRJJordan]

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

i would do it same w/ street car
i would just tape my oil cooler or put some cardboard in front of it.
but thats just me.

Yeah, I don't run a thermo either - you'd only want to run a thermo if you were worried about oil temps falling below nominal after the car's warm, which doesn't happen in socal.

I let the car warm up, and right about the same time the water thermo opens and my temps are up, my oil pressure at idle drops to about 14psi, so I know the oil's warm. Easy.

[Om1kron]

nice... I just need the relocation block and some lines and junk and i'm golden. I'm not running an oil cooler on a street car, retarded.

[GSXRJJordan]

Originally Posted by Om1kron

nice... I just need the relocation block and some lines and junk and i'm golden. I'm not running an oil cooler on a street car, retarded.

It really does make a difference in coolant temps though (which means it's making a HUGE difference in oil temps). For some reason, SR's heat up the oil like nobody's business. I know before I used installed the cooler, I couldn't make it all the way up Angeles Crest without my temps rising to 220*+, which would make me want to slow it down and let the car rest for a bit... afterwards, I can run the car as hard as I want, in whatever weather, and never see temps above 200*.

Gives me a ton of peace-of-mind, as well as the super-handy filter relocation and "car bling", which are both also important

[Om1kron]

well until my stance block ships out i'm dick in the dirt dead in that department anyway... I'm going to have to install this while the engine is in the car, it's going to suck.

[alesserfate]

Your oil filters could have been popping off due to bad threads on your oil block, over tightening your filter, or wrong filter.

I have a Blitz aluminum oil cooler kit that I use with a circuit sports oil block. It works well.

You can see it to the left of the intercooler in this pic, it's normally facing forward but because I hit a wall and had 45 minutes to fix my car before qualifying we just ended up zip tying it in whatever position just to make the car run.



Heres the original Blitz piece for the block that comes with the kit:
And the circuit sports piece we replaced that piece with (on the seat, blue):

[DataXUnknown]

Since this thread was bumped, I just have a small simple question. Is an oil cooler a good idea for a car thats both daily driven and tracked? I got an oil cooler off of an Evo, but I don't know if it's worth it to install it because I really don't track it that much yet. I have huge plans for it though. I don't know if keeping your oil temp. is really that important if your not heating it up a crazy amount.

[Om1kron]

it's bad, so you should give me that cooler. like on the cheap. real cheap... kekeke

[GSXRJJordan]

Originally Posted by DataXUnknown

Since this thread was bumped, I just have a small simple question. Is an oil cooler a good idea for a car thats both daily driven and tracked? I got an oil cooler off of an Evo, but I don't know if it's worth it to install it because I really don't track it that much yet. I have huge plans for it though. I don't know if keeping your oil temp. is really that important if your not heating it up a crazy amount.

Dude, read up like two posts. I think it's still a good idea.

[TheArkitekt]

I use an oil cooler on my street/track car (not driven winters however) and my block adapter has a thermoswitch in it that opens only when the oil should need cooling. If its setup like this then you should be fine. If its open and cooling all the time itll take a while to get oil up to temp...



black adapter from grex

[Om1kron]

haha cart was looking real good till I added 10 feet of that black aeroquip hose, i'm not running a cooler so I'll have to do measurements and decide where I'm going to mount that bitch.

[singlecamslam]

I use the tomei block and i would of used the stance one but they didnt have it back than. I also use the earl's filter relocation thing and it works perfectly. Also use the earls thermostat. I dont think you need it but i use it just to be safe. And i dont know if someone answered your question yet but the flow goes from engine to filet to cooler back to engine.

[SRpetey]

in ganna use the tomei block adapter and want to know if i should put my after market temp gauge on the tomei block adapter or get on of this things and put it in the fitting where the oil from the engine comes out(the tomei -10 out fitting). Which will be more accurate??????

[Om1kron]

it wont be "more accurate" it will just be in a different place within the oiling system.

[GSXRJJordan]

Originally Posted by Om1kron

haha cart was looking real good till I added 10 feet of that black aeroquip hose, i'm not running a cooler so I'll have to do measurements and decide where I'm going to mount that bitch.

I used just under 7ft of hose, with a cooler. That's pretty much minimum distances though - oil filter relocated just in front of the alternator, and the cooler just under pass side headlight.

[LongGrain]

i'm still sticking with the in-line filter, i dont really see any reason not too. It makes for a cleaner install, its washable and reusable, no worries of it coming off, etc.

already have STANCE oil block adapter (bought from TF a month before they released them), and Amazon just shipped out my cooler. now its just a matter of ordering the lines, fittings and filter from anplumbing and assembling lines.

is it ok for me to assemble the lines myself? ive never done it but it seems like a lot of members here assemble their own, is it difficult? i may try to find someone local who has done it before.

i'm glad this thread has helped out others

[GSXRJJordan]

Originally Posted by LongGrain

i'm still sticking with the in-line filter, i dont really see any reason not too. It makes for a cleaner install, its washable and reusable, no worries of it coming off, etc.

Cost?

Originally Posted by LongGrain

is it ok for me to assemble the lines myself? ive never done it but it seems like a lot of members here assemble their own, is it difficult? i may try to find someone local who has done it before.

It's not "difficult" but unless you do it right, you it leaks (or you break the fitting). As long as you've got the right wrenches and someone lookin over your shoulder who's done it, you should be fine.

[96Turbo]

Originally Posted by LongGrain

i'm still sticking with the in-line filter, i dont really see any reason not too. It makes for a cleaner install, its washable and reusable, no worries of it coming off, etc.

already have STANCE oil block adapter (bought from TF a month before they released them), and Amazon just shipped out my cooler. now its just a matter of ordering the lines, fittings and filter from anplumbing and assembling lines.

is it ok for me to assemble the lines myself? ive never done it but it seems like a lot of members here assemble their own, is it difficult? i may try to find someone local who has done it before.

i'm glad this thread has helped out others

the first (and thus far only) lines i've made were for my power steering setup. Stainless braided blah blah blah.

Mine don't leak at all. Just be careful and take your time....as with anything

If i pulled it off first try with PS lines (hella high pressure compared to engine oil).....i think you'll be alright

[SRpetey]

Originally Posted by Om1kron

it wont be "more accurate" it will just be in a different place within the oiling system.

but if I place it in the block adapter isn't it ganna read cooled oil since it has gone through the oil cooler and if I place it in the OUT fitting of the block adapter it would read the oil temp in the engine. Does it even matter?

[Om1kron]

cutting them looks like a bitch, they have like a meat cleaver knife type of deal and hammer through the line to make a straight cut, then place the fitting in a vice and twist the tube in it and apparently it wont come out after that point.

[Om1kron]

Originally Posted by SRpetey

but if I place it in the block adapter isn't it ganna read cooled oil since it has gone through the oil cooler and if I place it in the OUT fitting of the block adapter it would read the oil temp in the engine. Does it even matter?

The oil is going to go through the whole system anyway, just think of it as a circle... there is no best place to put it if it's irrelevant. oil pressure is the one where I would worry about placement, definitely on the lines or on some block and not the oil pan. I don't know if it would read the same in both places.

i'm not a big engine pressure genius but the temp gauge is kind of a dead horse.

[LongGrain]

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Cost?



It's not "difficult" but unless you do it right, you it leaks (or you break the fitting). As long as you've got the right wrenches and someone lookin over your shoulder who's done it, you should be fine.

yea its like $36 bucks, but i dont have to buy a filter pedestal, nor a new filter every time i change my oil, i can just pop this one off and clean it each time. replace the element if need be, but i think it would pay for it self after just a few oil changes.

[LESS-TRACTION-MORE-ACTION]

Hey so with tomei block w/thermostat every time it's closed your oil is not filtered if you have a loop system eg block to filter to cooler to block?? Is there a set up which alows oil to be filterer even when thermo shut?? How much does it bypass while shut??

[GSXRJJordan]

The thermo is only closed while the car's warming up... once the oil comes up to temp, it'll never be cold enough outside to drop it down below 180* or so.

Don't worry about it.