The Official 2016 Nissan IDx Thread

[simmode1]

It's coming! Datsun 510 successor beats Silvia revival to production and I'm not complaining!

Nissan Confirms The Rear-Drive IDx Concept Will Go To Production

Let's start compiling the discussion, pics and photochops in here so we don't have to wade through the over non-specific RWD drive thread.

What are your thoughts? Excited? Skeptical? Blah? Will Zilvia need to change it's name? lol

[g35gabby]

Till it hits a show room it is over no value IMO to discuss or chop. every time I see something like this and then IF they make it to production.... It is usually a huge let down when it finally arrives compared to what it "might have been".

[exitspeed]

Awesome new thread. I can't express how excited I am for this. I WILL be making room in my budget for one. Fuck n A.

[zooopreme]

Watch Nissan pull a fast one by making it FWD. I'll laugh even harder when each trim will all come standard as automatic. Nismo model will have paddle shifters though ":P".

[drift freaq]

hmmm very interesting and cool.

[brndck]

I remember the last time they promised something compact, lightweight, and in this market, and then they released the Altima coupe.

[rvns14]

Nissan needs to make a business case for this sites are hosting polls.
Zilvians vote like Gray Davis your governor!

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by brndck

I remember the last time they promised something compact, lightweight, and in this market, and then they released the Altima coupe.

Yeah but that's gone now. They're obviously serious about it.

Side note. Had a talk with the wife and she's on board with me getting one when it comes out. For all the married guys out there they know that is half the battle.

[simmode1]

Originally Posted by brndck

I remember the last time they promised something compact, lightweight, and in this market, and then they released the Altima coupe.

I know, right? I'm a little skeptical too. It's great news, but they could screw it up. I hope they don't.

Here are my concerns:
- Tranditional 6 speed manual trans for the Nismo, please. You can keep that CVT BS on the Freeflow.
- Please make more power than the FRS. 240hp from a 2800lbs turbo car sounds like a perfect starting point, kinda like the S15.
- Bolt-on turbo, please! None of this integrated manifold BS! Must be upgrade friendly.
- Refine the design but don't neuter it too much. I love how bold it is, incomparison to a traditional (yet beautiful) looking sportscar concept like the GT4 Stinger.

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Side note. Had a talk with the wife and she's on board with me getting one when it comes out. For all the married guys out there they know that is half the battle.

Ditto! Showed my wife and she like the IDX too!

But that was before the Stinger concept, so I dunno yet. I'm on the fence about these two. If the Stinger becomes real, it's gonna be real interesting when it's time to shop.

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by rvns14

Nissan needs to make a business case for this sites are hosting polls.
Zilvians vote like Gray Davis your governor!

????? Gray Davis was the Governor like 11 years ago dude and he was recalled. LOL

You're not making much sense here. lol

[1 88 U]

So when this ugly thing fails will Nissan give up all hopes in this market for another 15 years?

[unwtdhero]

If the idx comes out, it needs to come manual. PERIOD. Otherwise i will buy a kia, because i have a job and 149 dollars. Plus the stinger looks better and more refined imho

[brndck]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Yeah but that's gone now. They're obviously serious about it.

I also remember when they promised a new pathfinder, and then they gave us this

Originally Posted by simmode1

Here are my concerns:
- Tranditional 6 speed manual trans for the Nismo, please. You can keep that CVT BS on the Freeflow.
- Please make more power than the FRS. 240hp from a 2800lbs turbo car sounds like a perfect starting point, kinda like the S15.
- Bolt-on turbo, please! None of this integrated manifold BS! Must be upgrade friendly.
- Refine the design but don't neuter it too much. I love how bold it is, incomparison to a traditional (yet beautiful) looking sportscar concept like the GT4 Stinger.

-6spd hell yes, but at LEAST a 5spd manual trans option instead of the slushbox
-240 hp from a 2800lb car would be awesome but i have a feeling this thing will end up like the genesis. 220hp and 3k+ pounds of piggishness
-how about just 240hp NA
-NOPE. Just manufacture the nismo idx with no design changes and point me to where i sign on the dotted line.

[simmode1]

^^^Genesis coupe 2.0t has 274hp now. Where you been, man? It's not as piggish as the media makes it sound. Compare it to a G35 coupe, which has similar specs and the GC is great for the price.

The reason I hope for a 240hp turbo engine in the Nismo IDx is because the Nismo Sentra at TAS and the Detroit Auto show was running the same proposed engine - the 1.8T from the Juke beefed up with a bigger turbo.

I can't understand any reason why they'd give the Nismo IDx less power than the Nismo Sentra, especially if they're running the same motor...

As for the 5spd manual... Shit... I can't remember the last time I saw a new car running a 5spd. 2007, maybe? Nissan could save money by recycling the 370Z's 6spd mated to the 1.8T. At least we know that trans is tested and should stand up to any abused the dinky 1.8T could throw at it.

Now, where are you getting the idea that Nissan can produce a small displacement engine capable of making 240hp N/A?! This ain't Honda. And I, for one, have ZERO interest in an N/A IDX.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by brndck

I also remember when they promised a new pathfinder, and then they gave us this

Yeah, and your point? They gave us a FAR more competitive vehicle then the outgoing Pathfinder. I also happen to like it better than the previous model. A friend of mine had one and it felt like a two decade old vehicle (which it pretty much was). I also just bought a 2014 Pathfinder and the thing is awesome.

[supersayianjim]

It looks like the rouge!!

[simmode1]

Yo. More IDx and less CUV talk.

Can somebody photoshop the Freeflow as one solid color, please?!?

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by supersayianjim

It looks like the rouge!!

You mean the Rouge looks like it since the Pathfinder is on its second model year and the new Rouge just came out last month.

[Future240]

Originally Posted by simmode1

Yo. More IDx and less CUV talk.

Can somebody photoshop the Freeflow as one solid color, please?!?

This.

I will give Nissan the benefit of the doubt. They are not stupid. They realize how popular the FRS and BRZ is. What Andy said about those cars being mid life crisis cars I at first just lauged off. This morning I saw a BRZ. As I drove by it was a middle aged man behind the wheel who looked old enough to be my dad.

Point being it seems they may know what they are talking about. With everyone clamoring for a turbo 4, I cannot seem them making it NA.

I honestly don't see it being CVT either. The Z34 is still manual. The GTR is double clutch sure, but that is a super car thing. I don't think they would bring paddle shifters to the low end sports car. Yea I know the Maxima and other cars are, but they are also sedans.

Honestly I am more concerned about the 1.8 engine. I don't want a 1.8. I want a 2.0-2.5L. I highly dobut they will do 2.5, but I am hoping for at least two.

Lastly I am also going to keep an eye on the BRZ/FRS. If Nissan drops a production model with a turbo I cannot see them sitting idly by. 2016 seems like it will be a really good year for cars.

[1 88 U]

Originally Posted by Future240

This.

I will give Nissan the benefit of the doubt. They are not stupid. They realize how popular the FRS and BRZ is. What Andy said about those cars being mid life crisis cars I at first just lauged off. This morning I saw a BRZ. As I drove by it was a middle aged man behind the wheel who looked old enough to be my dad.

Point being it seems they may know what they are talking about. With everyone clamoring for a turbo 4, I cannot seem them making it NA.

I honestly don't see it being CVT either. The Z34 is still manual. The GTR is double clutch sure, but that is a super car thing. I don't think they would bring paddle shifters to the low end sports car. Yea I know the Maxima and other cars are, but they are also sedans.

Honestly I am more concerned about the 1.8 engine. I don't want a 1.8. I want a 2.0-2.5L. I highly dobut they will do 2.5, but I am hoping for at least two.

Lastly I am also going to keep an eye on the BRZ/FRS. If Nissan drops a production model with a turbo I cannot see them sitting idly by. 2016 seems like it will be a really good year for cars.

Toyota has been testing superchargers and turbos on the FA-20, Subaru has been chomping at the bit to boost it but Toyota is like "Chill, we own this market for now."

I'm excited if the kia and nissan can deliver over 250hp sub 28,000 lbs for mid $20k's. But they are still ugly as sin

[Frank_Jaeger]

Originally Posted by 1 88 U

Toyota has been testing superchargers and turbos on the FA-20, Subaru has been chomping at the bit to boost it but Toyota is like "Chill, we own this market for now."

I'm excited if the kia and nissan can deliver over 250hp sub 28,000 lbs for mid $20k's. But they are still ugly as sin

Holy hell.

[simmode1]

^^^Lol... epic typo.

Originally Posted by Future240

Point being it seems they may know what they are talking about. With everyone clamoring for a turbo 4, I cannot seem them making it NA.

Honestly I am more concerned about the 1.8 engine. I don't want a 1.8. I want a 2.0-2.5L. I highly dobut they will do 2.5, but I am hoping for at least two.

There seem to be conflicting reports on whether there IDX is slated for a 1.5, 1.6 or 1.8 engines (both with and without turbo depending on which version you buy).

I searched around a bit and saw that the Nismo Juke R runs a 1.6t for a max of 197hp from the factory. The Nismo Sentra at TAS/Detroit autoshow is powered by some 1.8t that I haven't been able to identify, which makes 240hp & 240lbs/ft of torque.

I don't know if that 1.8t is a bored/stroked version of the Juke's 1.6t, but I'm fine with that 1.8t's specs from the Sentra being used for the IDX. Seems like a good foundation for the Nismo. I'd love a 2.5t, but I don't think it fits the character or heritage of a car like the IDX. Kinda similar to even how the FRS is underpowered, the engine still fits the 86's character & heritage.

They may have to throw heritage out the window though, if the Stinger is released at the same price. Nissan is gonna need to step up it's game if that happens because even 240hp ain't gonna be enough.

[Future240]

Originally Posted by simmode1

^^^Lol... epic typo.

There seem to be conflicting reports on whether there IDX is slated for a 1.5, 1.6 or 1.8 engines (both with and without turbo depending on which version you buy).

I searched around a bit and saw that the Nismo Juke R runs a 1.6t for a max of 197hp from the factory. The Nismo Sentra at TAS/Detroit autoshow is powered by some 1.8t that I haven't been able to identify, which makes 240hp & 240lbs/ft of torque.

I don't know if that 1.8t is a bored/stroked version of the Juke's 1.6t, but I'm fine with that 1.8t's specs from the Sentra being used for the IDX. Seems like a good foundation for the Nismo. I'd love a 2.5t, but I don't think it fits the character or heritage of a car like the IDX. Kinda similar to even how the FRS is underpowered, the engine still fits the 86's character & heritage.

They may have to throw heritage out the window though, if the Stinger is released at the same price. Nissan is gonna need to step up it's game if that happens because even 240hp ain't gonna be enough.

I'll admit it is impressive 240hp out of a 1.8T factory. Thing is later down the road when people want to step it up to 300-400hp, how is it going to be? I figured if they could do it in 1989 with an SR why not todays world too? Think about it. A direct injected 2.0 making 280hp can becomprable to the I4 Mustang and this Kia if the idx has the same or better power to weight ratio.

They can make it a good handling chassis with room for improvement. Nissan could even partner with certain companies for dealer installed, warranted mods. Like a greddy or Nismo FMIC, exhaust, turbo upgrade later down the road etc.

[240sxcure]

I'd rather Nissan keep the weight down and under-power the car with a well sorted chassis.

Just allow the engine to produce some more power easily.

[Gnnr]

Fuck it, this thread is useless without pics





























Sign me up for a new dime!

[simmode1]

Originally Posted by Future240

I'll admit it is impressive 240hp out of a 1.8T factory. Thing is later down the road when people want to step it up to 300-400hp, how is it going to be? I figured if they could do it in 1989 with an SR why not todays world too? Think about it. A direct injected 2.0 making 280hp can becomprable to the I4 Mustang and this Kia if the idx has the same or better power to weight ratio.

They can make it a good handling chassis with room for improvement. Nissan could even partner with certain companies for dealer installed, warranted mods. Like a greddy or Nismo FMIC, exhaust, turbo upgrade later down the road etc.

I was thinking the same thing too. How would the engine respond to upgrades... Not that the Juke guys are pushing the envelope or anything, but I've seen some 380hp stage 3 turbo kits for the 1.6t. I can only imagine a 1.8t being more stout and far more efficient than an old CA or SR.

How will it keep up with Hyundai's 2.0t and Ford's 2.3t? You aleady know: No replacement for displacement. It doesn't need to be the most powerful, IMO. Just gotta be balanced & priced/marketed right.

Like, I said, I certainly wouldn't mind if the IDX came more powerful than the Senta concept's 240hp 1.8t. The only reason I'm throwing that figure out is it's the only engine that makes sense to me based on what Nissan brought to the autoshows this year. I could be completely wrong on whatever they decide to go with. But I think the 1.8t's 240hp sounds alright in a car weighing a little less than an S15.

[exitspeed]

Damn doesn't look like I can get too close to it. I was hoping to peek underneath.

[Gnnr]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Damn doesn't look like I can get too close to it. I was hoping to peek underneath.

Those are from the 2013 Tokyo Motor Show, so the booth may be different in Detroit.

[Juantwo3]

i like the nismo concept of it but i would like to see this i would consider buying one. but i wish they brought the s-chassis back :/

i hope it has a larger displacement atleast to beat out some of the other 4 cyl turbos on the market now and i hope they dont change it last min it and make it fwd.

[Future240]

Originally Posted by simmode1

I was thinking the same thing too. How would the engine respond to upgrades... Not that the Juke guys are pushing the envelope or anything, but I've seen some 380hp stage 3 turbo kits for the 1.6t. I can only imagine a 1.8t being more stout and far more efficient than an old CA or SR.

How will it keep up with Hyundai's 2.0t and Ford's 2.3t? You aleady know: No replacement for displacement. It doesn't need to be the most powerful, IMO. Just gotta be balanced & priced/marketed right.

Like, I said, I certainly wouldn't mind if the IDX came more powerful than the Senta concept's 240hp 1.8t. The only reason I'm throwing that figure out is it's the only engine that makes sense to me based on what Nissan brought to the autoshows this year. I could be completely wrong on whatever they decide to go with. But I think the 1.8t's 240hp sounds alright in a car weighing a little less than an S15.

Damn you are right on the upgrade.
Stage 2 juke upgrade 315hp with just a turbo.

https://www.gtmotorsports.com/produc...cat=320&page=1

Here is 380
http://www.gtmotorsports.com/product...roductid=17560


That actually makes me want to see a 2.0 even more.

Originally Posted by Juantwo3

i like the nismo concept of it but i would like to see this i would consider buying one. but i wish they brought the s-chassis back :/

i hope it has a larger displacement atleast to beat out some of the other 4 cyl turbos on the market now and i hope they dont change it last min it and make it fwd.

I am confident it won't be fwd. it is a 510 revivial. Everyone would be pissed.