can you put a v8 in a 240sx

[trucker]

want to put 305 in 1990 240sx can it be down with after market kits or do you have to make them

[bgzee]

Good god... why would you want to put a 350 in a 240sx? First of all, it would offset the balance of the car terribly and you would have no handling what so ever.  Second, it would take a ton of custom fabrication, no doubt you would have to pound out the firewall...   It's really not even worth the time and money to try... If you want more power, invest in an sr20det.
-Brian

[Jeff240sx]

Not only what he said, but... there is a fine art of making huge power out of a 4-cylinder engine.  This is a really respectable thing to do.  Anyone with a wrench and some big carbs can dump fuel into a v8 and make power.
If you did that swap... the whole balance of the refinement of the car will be thrown out the window.  
You wanna swap a v8 into something... go buy a Fiero!
-Jeff

[DSC]

Swapping v8's into 240 and 280zx's is pretty popular.  And kits are readily avilable for them.  Check out Z home or Z Car for more info on all that.  With the position of the 240's engine bay in comparison with the front wheels, I don't think a V8 would be a very good idea, for the reasons stated in the above posts.  However you could get a low displacement v6 or i6 and put that in there, without hurting weight distro too much and give more potential than a 4 (in theory).

[LanceS13]

IIRC, the iron KA weighs almost 500lbs.  I bet you can get a small block V8 around 550lbs.  That's a battery relocation and CF/FG hood away from the original weight distribution.  hell, the weight of your gas tank varies that much.  

I mean, not to say I'd do it, but some of you guys seem to think even mentioning a V8 is one of the seven deadly sins.

I would applaud anyone who could pull it off and make it work for them...especially if they manage a 50/50 ratio via weight re-distribution. &nbsp;In the end, with any custom fabrication, weight re-distribution, engine uprages, etc., it would probably end up costing the same as a well-built turbo i-4...but it'd be different to say the least. &nbsp;The V8 would have more torque and more potential to boot. &nbsp;I still wanna see someone stick a V8 in the backseat just for the hell of it. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it's kind of a neat idea to play with.

[jskim9]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LanceS13 @ April 11 2002,03:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">IIRC, the iron KA weighs almost 500lbs. I bet you can get a small block V8 around 550lbs. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
um... no... the KA doesn't weigh over 1/6th the entire weight of the car. I forget how much exactly, but I think it was around 250-300lbs with all the toys attached to it. I believe the mustang 4.6L engine weighs around 450-500lbs

and I'm sure you could figure out a way to put a chevy 305 in there if you really want. Almost anything is possible. It'll be a lot of work. If it's really that important to you go for it. You'll most likely have clearance issue on the hood, so you might have to lower your subframe, rework your steering, stiffen the suspension, etc etc... that's a lot of work... a lot of money...

[adey]

I wouldn't say it's one of the 7 deadly sins; we know what all those are... this is just the 8th. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;

I know putting V8s into RX7s is a popular thing among those who have no respect for the rotary... needless to say, they get their arses flamed to a glowing ember... <g> I say they deserve it.
240 though? it's fair game I suppose- after all we still have cylinders and pistons in our SR20s. It's just something I wouldn't necessarily do!

I have to agree w/ lances13 though, an M/R V8 240 would be an interesting car-- to say the least!

[DuffMan]

Why would anyone want to put a chevy 305 in anything? It's not a small engine. Its the same size as the 350 and its many stroked varients, and probably weighs more because smaller bore = more metal.

A ford 302 would probably be the best American V8 swap for the 240sx.

[Grant]

I believe someone has posted here of a LS-1 swap in an S13, used for track racing (not drag). I think the LS-1 motor is a good motor to go with with since (IIRC) it has an aluminum block, which helps the weight balance a bit.

[NOSfEDs12vh45dett]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO, LS-1 is a good motor but, come on Nissan think Nissan, they're the best, VH41DE stick that in, you'll never regret it trust me................



VH41DE baby, turn it up, 450 hp go for it.......

[BEISSEN]

The ka weights are 493 pounds as where the sr20 weighs 490 I would not even think of a v8 if you want power put the 2jz-gte engine in your car.Plus the aftermarket of the supra is nice.

[wherezmytofu]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BEISSEN @ April 11 2002,09:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The ka weights are 493 pounds as where the sr20 weighs 490 I would not even think of a v8 if you want power put the 2jz-gte engine in your car.Plus the aftermarket of the supra is nice.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
where ever u got those numbers...it hink they r counting engine + tranny...the vh45de isa meer 380lbs (my receite from freighting)....the ka24de is 300lbs and teh sr is like 50 lbs lighter <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

http://www.240sx.org/faq/articles/we...the_ka24de.htm

[ca18guy]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BEISSEN @ April 13 2002,02:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I would not even think of a v8 if you want power put the 2jz-gte engine in your car.Plus the aftermarket of the supra is nice.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hmmm which one would be cheaper? The V8 by far. Which one has a bigger aftermarket? A V8 (depending on model of course) &nbsp;Plus you would be able to set the majority of a V8 closer to the firewall then a I-6, so it will mantain everyone's precious weight ratio <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;Personnally it I think it's a great idea, I'd rather do it to a 240Z (cause it wieghs less and i like the looks better, and there are kits) And to answer his question, yes you would have to make your own kit.

[Aries]

I have an LS1 from a 2001 SS Camaro sitting arround the shop...

Which would be better to try this on...
An S-13 or an S-14?

I think it would be great to be putting 350 hp on the ground in a automatic LS1 powered 240.
Can we say 11's on motor?

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[Kreator]

This might be controversial, but a japanese car with a v8 doesn't sound right to me.

[LanceS13]

Oh jeez...like there are no Japanese V8s <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[wherezmytofu]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LanceS13 @ April 11 2002,4:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh jeez...like there are no Japanese V8s <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
WITH!!!!....how about the vh45de, vh41de, vk45de !!!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> ...ur soooooo dead! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

[Kreator]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ April 12 2002,4:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LanceS13 @ April 11 2002,4:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh jeez...like there are no Japanese V8s <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
WITH!!!!....how about the vh45de, vh41de, vk45de !!!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> ...ur soooooo dead! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
God damnit. I knew someone would interpret that wrong. I'm not saying that there are no japanese v8s. I'm just saying that it doesn't sound right to me. Meaning I DON'T LIKE V8S IN JAPANESE CARS. Thats all my statement meant. And that's my opinion. And as i said, it's controversial. Someone might think otherwise.

[twofortysx]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ April 12 2002,07:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteBegin--BEISSEN+April 11 2002,09<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BEISSEN @ April 11 2002,09<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>3)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The ka weights are 493 pounds as where the sr20 weighs 490 I would not even think of a v8 if you want power put the 2jz-gte engine in your car.Plus the aftermarket of the supra is nice.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
where ever u got those numbers...it hink they r counting engine + tranny...the vh45de isa meer 380lbs (my receite from freighting)....the ka24de is 300lbs and teh sr is like 50 lbs lighter <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

http://www.240sx.org/faq/articles/we...the_ka24de.htm</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
May '02 SCC stated the weight of the KA at 493, and the SR + tranny is 490.

- Matt

[whateverjames]

just remember, as silly as it sounds to some of you, "putting an american v8 in an import", sounds the same to an american car owner "i'm going to turbo my 2.4L four cylinder" or "i'm going to swap out my engine for turbo four cylinder with even less displacement for $5,000 installed!" we'd sound retarded telling a v8 guy that stuff. but it's stuff they don't understand. and if you don't understand why someone loves v8's and wants to put one in a 240sx, then you just need ta shush it.

edit: i spelled retarded wrong &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

[wherezmytofu]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (twofortysx @ April 11 2002,7:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ April 12 2002,07:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BEISSEN @ April 11 2002,09<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The ka weights are 493 pounds as where the sr20 weighs 490 I would not even think of a v8 if you want power put the 2jz-gte engine in your car.Plus the aftermarket of the supra is nice.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
where ever u got those numbers...it hink they r counting engine + tranny...the vh45de isa meer 380lbs (my receite from freighting)....the ka24de is 300lbs and teh sr is like 50 lbs lighter <!--emo&<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

http://www.240sx.org/faq/articles/we...the_ka24de.htm</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
May '02 SCC stated the weight of the KA at 493, and the SR + tranny is 490.

- Matt</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
like i said...engine or engine + tranny...i guess he ment engine + tranny

[240meowth]

why talk 'bout weight? &nbsp;just push the engine further back into the firewall to give you the perfect weight distribution... again that's $$$$$$$ &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

on the other hand, japanese cars can go w/ v8, like the toyota trucks/suv &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[slow_accord]

I don't know about a V8, but I think it would be cool to swap in a 13b from an FD! &nbsp;Stick a single turbo on there and boom you have an engine that weighs less than 300lbs. and puts out over 350hp. &nbsp;The only problem is you would have to replace it every 70,000 miles, but that's beside the point &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[Aries]

Just got home from the shop, and with a little relocation of some of the junk (power steering pump and break fluid reservoir) the LS1 will drop in easily and require only some custom fabricated mounts.

I'm gonna go ahead and try this one, so I'll let you guys know how it turns out...

[roast]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (whateverjames @ April 12 2002,8:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">just remember, as silly as it sounds to some of you, "putting an american v8 in an import", sounds the same to an american car owner "i'm going to turbo my 2.4L four cylinder" or "i'm going to swap out my engine for turbo four cylinder with even less displacement for $5,000 installed!" we'd sound retarded telling a v8 guy that stuff. but it's stuff they don't understand. and if you don't understand why someone loves v8's and wants to put one in a 240sx, then you just need ta shush it.

edit: i spelled retarded wrong <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
They're are some 2.3L Turbo mustangs running around pulling 11s 1/4mi's... &nbsp; Dodge has a turbo kit for most of they're 4 cylinder motors... ... &nbsp;

Spirit R/T or Daytona R/T from 1991 to 1992 had 224 hp from a 2.2...

[240sxracer]

i think i am sticking with turboing my sohc but the thought of putting a v8 in the 240 has crossed my mind numerous times.
your 240 will definately be a sleeper i would love to see the face of a honda or mustang owner when you beat them with ease. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[misnomer]

My God people, pull your heads out. It's OK to prefer not to have a v8 in your 240sx, but to go and flame somebody who does is ludicrous. A fast car is a fast car, and I garuntee you'd be impressed to see an 11 second 240sx, even if it has a "piece of shit low tech American engine in it."

As far as handling goes, putting the wieght ratio from 53/47 (stock) to 56/44 won't effect handling as much as y'all would hope. Some proper tweaking and it'll handle with the best of them.

[MyFirst240SX]

I think those Turbo 4 banger mustangs yall where talking about where Called SVO's. &nbsp;They were fast as hell but they Broke down, i think they cost a coulple grand more than GT's and smoked GT's like woooo. &nbsp;i think they pushed 300hp stock.

Call me stupid but isn't the 4 banger tranny kinda small compared to a V8 tranny that might present a small problem, a little bit of custom fabricating could make it fit im sure tho.

Im sure a 240SX with a turbocharged 350 with Nitrous would pretty much impress me=))))))

[NOSfEDs12vh45dett]

yo MyFirst240SX
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Im sure a 240SX with a turbocharged 350 with Nitrous would pretty much impress me</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

How about a VH45DETT producting 790 hp without NOS fitted yet, but alas we don't get the 240sx, so 200sx will have to do.
Well now it's actually got two superchargers now........

As for the Tranny, geez Supra got one of the best(The only time I ever give praise to a T To T Toy T T T gee I can't say in a compliment), yep go full hog, I have a Holianger but alas these things cost money...................................(in NZD $4,000 in USD $1,700, for the Gertrag, and $12,000NZD in USD $5,600 for the Holianger).

[junia]

Hey if you want to throw a V8 into your 240sx by all means, do it. &nbsp;I would like to see something different sometimes because to me a SR swap isn't really a crazy mod because to me, its not really a big modification. &nbsp;If I was going to go V8, I would go all out and go V8+twin turbo+NOS. &nbsp;I wonder if thats possible? &nbsp;It has to be HKS made a supra with a twin turbo v8 supra. &nbsp;Anythings possible.