2010-2011 NBA Season Thread

[Gnnr]

2010 NBA Summer League - July 9-18

ORLANDO SUMMER LEAGUE

SCHEDULE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. All Times listed are local Orlando time (ET)

Monday, July 5
1 PM -- Charlotte vs. Utah*
3 PM -- Indiana vs. Orlando*
5 PM -- Boston vs. OKC*
7 PM -- New Jersey vs. Philadelphia*

Tuesday, July 6
1 PM -- Utah vs. Orlando*
3 PM -- Charlotte vs. OKC*
5 PM -- Philadelphia vs. Boston*
7 PM -- Indiana vs. NJ*

Wednesday, July 7
1 PM -- Charlotte vs. Boston*
3 PM -- OKC vs. Philadelphia*
5 PM -- NJ vs. Orlando*
7 PM -- Indiana vs. Utah*

Thursday, July 8
1 PM -- OKC vs. Orlando*
3 PM -- Indiana vs. Boston*
5 PM -- Utah vs. NJ*
7 PM -- Philadelphia vs. Charlotte*

Friday, July 9
8 AM -- OKC vs. Indiana
10 AM -- Philadelphia vs. Utah
12 PM -- NJ vs. Boston
2 PM -- Charlotte vs. Orlando

(10 minute intermission between games)

LAS VEGAS SUMMER LEAGUE

SCHEDULE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. All Times listed are local Las Vegas time (PT)

Friday July 9
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Denver vs. Dallas*
3 PM -- Houston vs. Phoenix*
5 PM -- Detroit vs. LA Lakers*
7 PM -- Golden State vs. New Orleans*

Saturday July 10
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Toronto vs. Phoenix*
3 PM -- LA Lakers vs. Denver*
5 PM -- Detroit vs. Golden State*
7 PM -- Dallas vs. Houston*

Sunday July 11
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- New York vs. Denver*
3 PM -- Portland vs. Houston*
5 PM -- Washington vs. Golden State*
7 PM -- Miami vs. New Orleans*

Monday July 12
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- LA Lakers vs. New York*
3 PM -- Sacramento vs. Detroit*
5 PM -- Dallas vs. Milwaukee*
7 PM -- Washington vs. LA Clippers*

Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- San Antonio vs. Minnesota
5:30 PM -- Phoenix vs. NBA D-League
7:30 PM -- Memphis vs. Atlanta

Tuesday July 13
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Denver vs. Chicago*
3 PM -- Cleveland vs. NBA D-League*
5 PM -- Milwaukee vs. Memphis*
7 PM -- Portland vs. New Orleans*

Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- Houston vs. Toronto
5:30 PM -- Sacramento vs. LA Lakers
7:30 PM -- Golden State vs. Miami

Wednesday July 14
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Denver vs. Houston*
3 PM -- New York vs. Toronto*
5 PM -- LA Clippers vs. Chicago*
7 PM -- Sacramento vs. Minnesota*

Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- Atlanta vs. San Antonio
5:30 PM -- Cleveland vs. Phoenix
7:30 PM -- Detroit vs. Miami

Thursday July 15
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- LA Lakers vs. San Antonio*
3 PM -- Golden State vs. Phoenix*
5 PM -- Washington vs. Dallas*
7 PM -- LA Clippers vs. Portland*

Thomas & Mack
5:30 PM -- Atlanta vs. Milwaukee
7:30 PM -- NBA D-League vs. Memphis

Friday July 16
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Detroit vs. New York*
3 PM -- Toronto vs. Sacramento*
5 PM -- Washington vs. New Orleans*
7 PM -- Memphis vs. Minnesota*

Thomas & Mack
5:30 PM -- Cleveland vs. Chicago
7:30 PM -- Milwaukee vs. Miami

Saturday July 17
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- New York vs. Washington*
3 PM -- Miami vs. Cleveland*
5 PM -- LA Clippers vs. San Antonio*
7 PM -- Minnesota vs. Portland*

Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- Toronto vs. New Orleans
5:30 PM -- Sacramento vs. Chicago
7:30 PM -- NBA D-League vs. Atlanta

Sunday July 18
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Cleveland vs. Milwaukee*
3 PM -- Chicago vs. Portland*
5 PM -- Dallas vs. Sacramento*

Thomas & Mack
1:30 PM -- San Antonio vs. Memphis
3:30 PM -- Atlanta vs. Minnesota
5:30 PM -- LA Clippers vs. NBA D-League

Is it worth it to watch these? You can watch the whole season for $14.95 on NBA.com, not a bad price.

[FRpilot]

$119M/6yrs for Joe Johnson is terrible. Some analyst say its the worst contract of all time in basketball, but I think that title belongs to Rashard Lewis though ($118M/6yrs).

$100M/5yrs for Amare is pretty bad too, unless NY gets a stud PG.

[Gnnr]

Is no one calling up the Hawks and telling them how stupid they are? I mean, I'm sure its happening. Its not official until he signs on the 8th. They still have time to back out and save face.

lmao @ ESPN. First they start/perpetuate the rumor and claim that "sources" say that Amare and the Knicks met and offered him that $100M contract. Now their "sources" say that it never happened and that they'll meet for the fist time on Monday.

BTW, you can see the video that the Cavs showed to Lebron in their meeting.
LeBron James - More Than A Player

He's a douche if he leaves. I'm so glad the NBA has the 1 year of college rule, because Lebron's immaturity,ego,etc is just a product of coming straight out of highschool. It shows that its his entourage of highschool buddies trying to manage his "business". I hope they extend the rule to 2 years maybe even WITH an AA in order to enter the NBA.

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by Gnnr

I thought he did good defending Kobe.

No he didn't... One on one, he got his face torched on Kobe. As a team, Boston did a decent job on Kobe.

Originally Posted by Gnnr

I don't mean ego as in getting along, I mean that he has to know coming in that he wont be the primary man and will be in a secondary roll, not starting. If he's down for that I have no problem with it.

I think he would be willing to accept a non-primary role on a team where there are CLEARLY players who are better than he is, which he did not have in Memphis or Philly last year. It could work, and Pat Riley would be the one to pull it off.

[Gnnr]

Originally Posted by PHLIP

No he didn't... One on one, he got his face torched on Kobe.

I thought it was as good as anyone could do guarding Kobe one on one. He didn't fall for the pump fakes and other trappings Kobe pulls. In your opinion, who do you think does the best guarding Kobe one on one in the league?

Update
-Amare to Knicks for 5yr $100M is a done deal
-Amare is trying to lure Tony Parker and Carmelo Anthony if LeBron doesn't go.

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by Gnnr

I thought it was as good as anyone could do guarding Kobe one on one. He didn't fall for the pump fakes and other trappings Kobe pulls. In your opinion, who do you think does the best guarding Kobe one on one in the league?

Individually?
Ron Artest and Bruce Bowen did, but Ron Artest joined the "if you can't beat em join em" gang and Bruce Bowen joined the "wear a bowtie and talk about basketball" gang.
No one remaining in the league, as long as Artest has to expend the energy Kobe might have to on defense, honestly

[boobs13]

lol nice quote......

[el ocho]

Well its official. Amar'e to Knicks - 5yr 100mill

We'll see how this goes. I was impressed by him in the final few games of the Laker series. If they could pick up someone like T. Parker from San Antonio the Knicks could make some noise.

[Gnnr]

Originally Posted by PHLIP

Individually?
Ron Artest and Bruce Bowen did, but Ron Artest joined the "if you can't beat em join em" gang and Bruce Bowen joined the "wear a bowtie and talk about basketball" gang.
No one remaining in the league, as long as Artest has to expend the energy Kobe might have to on defense, honestly

Queensbridge! lol, my favorite random thing to scream out at the moment.

You have to hear this
See Amare's comments to the press here after joining Knicks. Video at top but I recommend the full audio interview midway down. If you are a Knicks fans you have to be feeling very good about the future.

Possible super team scenarios that would glue me to the TV.

Shaq to Celtics

Carmelo and Parker to Knicks

Wade and Bosh (of course LeBron would make it even better) to Heat

LeBron to Bulls

Chris Paul to Orlando.

Make the eastern conference HOT. lol.

[Gnnr]

Allen Iverson's latest tweet

I want to return to the NBA this season, and help any team that wants me, in any capacity that they feel that I can help. I'm disappointed, and I owe my fans more than what they have seen of me the last couple seasons. However, now that my family is healthy and rock solid, I can concentrate fully on doing what I do best!

Allen Iverson (alleniverson) on Twitter

[enkei2k]

chris doodoo duhon to orlando for 4 years, 15 mil...now we don't have a true PG...guess we're banking on that rookie...now a 1 year vet. toney douglas.

Agent: Chris Duhon leaving New York Knicks to sign with Orlando Magic - ESPN New York

[Phlip]

The Knicks stay fucking up.
$100 Million to Amar'e, who famously butted heads with then-coach who now coaches the Knicks over defense and lack of touches.
Amar'e plays no defense, cannot create his own shot and a history of injuries and a big fucking mouth to go with it all. Unless there is a point guard coming in to spoonfeed him all his points like in Phoenix, this will be a bust.
IF LeBron or D-Wade come to NY, it will also be a bust since they can both create their own shots and Amar'e will be back to bitching about touches.

Also, the Bulls sent LeBron a package to his house this weekend; an OG pair of Jordan 1s with a message.


Phail, on both parts.

[BOROSUN]

i swear knicks should have waited.

but, amare is not injury prone like tmac/oden. he only had 1 season out to get his knees fixed, from then to now he didn't miss that much games including that eye problem.

he does have no defense.

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by BOROSUN

i swear knicks should have waited.

but, amare is not injury prone like tmac/oden. he only had 1 season out to get his knees fixed, from then to now he didn't miss that much games including that eye problem.

he does have no defense.

His contract is uninsurable with him having had microfracture surgery, and that eye thing is not something to be ignored.
Both of these should have come together to lower his cost, I will just say he has a good fucking agent or the Knicks are stupid.
Probably a bit of the latter.

[Strider]

Originally Posted by Gnnr

2010 NBA Summer League - July 9-18

ORLANDO SUMMER LEAGUE

SCHEDULE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. All Times listed are local Orlando time (ET)

Monday, July 5
1 PM -- Charlotte vs. Utah*
3 PM -- Indiana vs. Orlando*
5 PM -- Boston vs. OKC*
7 PM -- New Jersey vs. Philadelphia*

Tuesday, July 6
1 PM -- Utah vs. Orlando*
3 PM -- Charlotte vs. OKC*
5 PM -- Philadelphia vs. Boston*
7 PM -- Indiana vs. NJ*

Wednesday, July 7
1 PM -- Charlotte vs. Boston*
3 PM -- OKC vs. Philadelphia*
5 PM -- NJ vs. Orlando*
7 PM -- Indiana vs. Utah*

Thursday, July 8
1 PM -- OKC vs. Orlando*
3 PM -- Indiana vs. Boston*
5 PM -- Utah vs. NJ*
7 PM -- Philadelphia vs. Charlotte*

Friday, July 9
8 AM -- OKC vs. Indiana
10 AM -- Philadelphia vs. Utah
12 PM -- NJ vs. Boston
2 PM -- Charlotte vs. Orlando

(10 minute intermission between games)

LAS VEGAS SUMMER LEAGUE

SCHEDULE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. All Times listed are local Las Vegas time (PT)

Friday July 9
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Denver vs. Dallas*
3 PM -- Houston vs. Phoenix*
5 PM -- Detroit vs. LA Lakers*
7 PM -- Golden State vs. New Orleans*

Saturday July 10
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Toronto vs. Phoenix*
3 PM -- LA Lakers vs. Denver*
5 PM -- Detroit vs. Golden State*
7 PM -- Dallas vs. Houston*

Sunday July 11
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- New York vs. Denver*
3 PM -- Portland vs. Houston*
5 PM -- Washington vs. Golden State*
7 PM -- Miami vs. New Orleans*

Monday July 12
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- LA Lakers vs. New York*
3 PM -- Sacramento vs. Detroit*
5 PM -- Dallas vs. Milwaukee*
7 PM -- Washington vs. LA Clippers*

Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- San Antonio vs. Minnesota
5:30 PM -- Phoenix vs. NBA D-League
7:30 PM -- Memphis vs. Atlanta

Tuesday July 13
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Denver vs. Chicago*
3 PM -- Cleveland vs. NBA D-League*
5 PM -- Milwaukee vs. Memphis*
7 PM -- Portland vs. New Orleans*

Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- Houston vs. Toronto
5:30 PM -- Sacramento vs. LA Lakers
7:30 PM -- Golden State vs. Miami

Wednesday July 14
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Denver vs. Houston*
3 PM -- New York vs. Toronto*
5 PM -- LA Clippers vs. Chicago*
7 PM -- Sacramento vs. Minnesota*

Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- Atlanta vs. San Antonio
5:30 PM -- Cleveland vs. Phoenix
7:30 PM -- Detroit vs. Miami

Thursday July 15
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- LA Lakers vs. San Antonio*
3 PM -- Golden State vs. Phoenix*
5 PM -- Washington vs. Dallas*
7 PM -- LA Clippers vs. Portland*

Thomas & Mack
5:30 PM -- Atlanta vs. Milwaukee
7:30 PM -- NBA D-League vs. Memphis

Friday July 16
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Detroit vs. New York*
3 PM -- Toronto vs. Sacramento*
5 PM -- Washington vs. New Orleans*
7 PM -- Memphis vs. Minnesota*

Thomas & Mack
5:30 PM -- Cleveland vs. Chicago
7:30 PM -- Milwaukee vs. Miami

Saturday July 17
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- New York vs. Washington*
3 PM -- Miami vs. Cleveland*
5 PM -- LA Clippers vs. San Antonio*
7 PM -- Minnesota vs. Portland*

Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- Toronto vs. New Orleans
5:30 PM -- Sacramento vs. Chicago
7:30 PM -- NBA D-League vs. Atlanta

Sunday July 18
COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Cleveland vs. Milwaukee*
3 PM -- Chicago vs. Portland*
5 PM -- Dallas vs. Sacramento*

Thomas & Mack
1:30 PM -- San Antonio vs. Memphis
3:30 PM -- Atlanta vs. Minnesota
5:30 PM -- LA Clippers vs. NBA D-League

Is it worth it to watch these? You can watch the whole season for $14.95 on NBA.com, not a bad price.

If you're into Fantasy Basketball and want to watch players develop through the summer, yes. That's how I try to pick up my sleepers come draft day.

[Strider]

Originally Posted by PHLIP

The Knicks stay fucking up.
$100 Million to Amar'e, who famously butted heads with then-coach who now coaches the Knicks over defense and lack of touches.
Amar'e plays no defense, cannot create his own shot and a history of injuries and a big fucking mouth to go with it all. Unless there is a point guard coming in to spoonfeed him all his points like in Phoenix, this will be a bust.
IF LeBron or D-Wade come to NY, it will also be a bust since they can both create their own shots and Amar'e will be back to bitching about touches.

Also, the Bulls sent LeBron a package to his house this weekend; an OG pair of Jordan 1s with a message.


Phail, on both parts.

I think your overstating some facts. Yes, Amare plays no defense but he can create his own shot. 39% of his shots he created on his own on a heavily PG ran team which is really good for a big. I mean, you don't get in the top 10 in scoring if you can't create your own shot.

[frsh4]

shaq to boston? :]
just a rumor but its possible.

[el ocho]

i also heard possibly shaq to atl...

[ALTRNTV]

LeBron will make his announcement on Thursday at 6pm Pacific.

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by Strider

I think your overstating some facts. Yes, Amare plays no defense but he can create his own shot. 39% of his shots he created on his own on a heavily PG ran team which is really good for a big. I mean, you don't get in the top 10 in scoring if you can't create your own shot.

No, a primetime scorer worth max money does not need the kind of coddling that Amar'e got from Nash. In addition to the third of shots that Amar'e got directly from assists from Nash in the regular season, that number went to 44% in the playoffs.
That does not address any time he was fouled and made the points at the free throw line, nor does it count the times when he got the ball from the second pass after it left Steve's hands. Karl Malone made a career of being that SAME PLAYER in the high screen roll with John Stockton. The difference is that Malone could be bothered to play defense and rebound like it mattered.
Oh, and not bitch about touches.
I still say that New York was foolish to give him max money.

[frsh4]

have you heard?
Del Negro to coach the Clips..

[Gnnr]

Update

LeBron will be announcing his decision on ESPN on Thursday at 9 PM EST.

Finally, this crap will be behind us soon!

Right now the tension is with Bosh. He has stated he does not want to go to the Cavs in a sign and trade. LBJ has been trying to convince him to open up to the idea.

The Raptors would rather do a sign and trade with the Cavs than the Heat. Even though we own their valuable first round pick.

Edit: Didn't see your posts there AkademikONE.

[Strider]

Originally Posted by frsh4

have you heard?
Del Negro to coach the Clips..

This is great! I couldn't be more happy!

[boobs13]

Originally Posted by el ocho

i also heard possibly shaq to atl...

Originally Posted by frsh4

shaq to boston? :]
just a rumor but its possible.

And I heard Kobe is going to Washington Wizard......

























Wait that was a rumor too!

I have a feeling Lebron is heading to NYK. Think about it, Knick's gave Amare Stoudemire $100 million for 5 years to play with them, New York is showing Lebron that there not scared how much it will be to have Lebron James to play for the New York Knicks.

If Lebron is smart with money wise "you know where he's going"

[Gnnr]

Originally Posted by boobs13

And I heard Kobe is going to Washington Wizard.....

Uhh, its not a random rumor. It actually has cred. They are both right. Celtics, Mavs, and Hawks have expressed interest in Shaq. So far Celtics seems to be the strongest possibility if LeBron doesn't come back to the Cavs.

2010 NBA free agency: Sources: Atlanta Hawks, Boston Celtics, Dallas Mavericks express interest in Shaquille O'Neal - ESPN

But speaking of rumors, I'm laughing at all the rumors now of where LeBron will do his press conference, lol. ESPN has reported that there is no location set as of yet and that proceeds from the broadcast are going to the Boys and Girls Club of America.

Will this have bigger ratings than Game 7?

"With the 1st pick in the 2010 Free Agency Draft, LeBron James selects the..."

[boobs13]

Free-Agent Market For Shaq: Celtics, Mavericks, Hawks, or Cavaliers

Originally Posted by Gnnr

He has great respect for Boston's coach, Doc Rivers, a good relationship with Kevin Garnett, and it was Shaq who gave Paul Pierce his nickname, "The Truth." With starting center, Kendrick Perkins, sidelined for up to six months after undergoing knee surgery to repair a torn ACL, O'Neal would seem to be a solid replacement.

WOW talk about "TEAM HOOPING" Orlando, Los Angles, Miami, Phoenix, Cleveland.......WHAT ELSE

LA Fans are truly gonna hate Shaq now! if he goes to Boston

Originally Posted by Gnnr

O'Neal also has a strong relationship with Atlanta's new head coach, Larry Drew, who was a Lakers assistant coach for parts of O'Neal's tenure in Los Angeles. The Hawks' interest in O'Neal is based on his ability to matchup with Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard, who led the Magic to a four-game sweep of Atlanta in the second round of last year's playoffs.

Hawk's is a good team and they will be looking at a NBA Final match up later in the future but with Shaq in there team, Dwight Howard will still give it to Shaq, Howard is younger, faster, and quicker......

Originally Posted by Gnnr

O'Neal also has a close relationship with Mavericks star Dirk Nowitzki and owner Mark Cuban. O'Neal could conceivably help Dallas matchup better against the Lakers.

38 year old center trying to stop two seven footers in the paint, yeah good luck Shaq!

Originally Posted by Gnnr

While O'Neal, who averaged 12 points and 6.7 rebounds in 23 minutes a game last season, believes he is still a starting caliber player, being assured a spot in the first five is not a deal-breaker, the sources said.

They forgot to mention 2-8 free-throws and 30% yearly

[fliprayzin240sx]

^^^But if Shaq ends up in Dallas, that could work out for him and Nowitzki. Shaq should still be able to draw double teams on the post and hopefully give Dirk more open looks...

[boobs13]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

^^^But if Shaq ends up in Dallas, that could work out for him and Nowitzki. Shaq should still be able to draw double teams on the post and hopefully give Dirk more open looks...

think about it Dirk Nowitzki is not gonna be on fire with his shots for all 50 games of the season lol

[Gnnr]

boobs13, edit your quotes. I didn't post any of that.

Anyways, Shaq would fit better with the Celtics. Lets get real, he's ring chasing. He's not going to the Hawks.

[Gnnr]

EXTRA! EXTRA!

ESPN REPORTING RIGHT NOW!

WADE AND BOSH TO MIAMI!!!!!

YEAH BITCHES!!!! SUCK IT CHICAGO!!!!