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scottie · 04-01-2012, 11:45 AM

Looks like we have a solid successor to the 240sx chassis in 10 years when they come down on price.

2012 MAX ORIDO D1GP NEW MACHINE TOYOTA V8 86 SHAKEDOWN - YouTube

Yes Please!!!

Zilmatic · 04-01-2012, 11:49 AM

Not really a successor just cause its a entry level JDM RWD car...

HyperTek · 04-01-2012, 11:52 AM

240sx successor?? did you forget the ae86 lol

scottie · 04-01-2012, 12:10 PM

Well Toyota / Subaru chassis. I wish Nissan would answer the call.

TheWolf · 04-01-2012, 01:06 PM

wow.. another v8 high HP drift machine based on an anemic factory car..

what's next, a v8 powered RWD fiat 500?

KiLLeR2001 · 04-01-2012, 01:31 PM

Nissan will revive the Silvia if the BRZ/FR-S does well. I can almost guarentee it. I've been telling all my friends who own Subarus / Toyotas to trade in their current car for one when they release...

Zilmatic · 04-01-2012, 01:33 PM

^ Possibly if the economy and market for these kinda cars get better.... hopefully they wont fuck it up like what mazda did with the rx-8

Corbic · 04-01-2012, 02:14 PM

Why does everyone go Gaga over the BRZ and not the FRS? Subaru has done well their their marketing.

A true "240sx" successor would be a car that sells extremely well (in large volumes) but then a few years latter prices drop to the floor. I don't see the FRZ selling in great volumes or even sustaining multiple generations (I hope they do however).

The 350z is right now the "new 240sx", there are a million out there and you can get one for 10k. You'd have to spend at least 10k to get a 240sx to perform like a Z33.

FRZ is $25k, while its a great car, is it $15k greater than my Z? Is it worth $500 a month to me? Not really, and most 240sx owners are bigger broke asses then even me.

MadScientist · 04-01-2012, 02:20 PM

I feel sorry for this car already, its had its heard ripped out, given a fat ass, and now the Devil of all Drifters is going to tear it a new asshole and smash its body into every bit of concrete it comes near... This is how we feel about your car Subaru!
Oh and the EVO is still better... naner naner...

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Originally Posted by TheWolf

what's next, a v8 powered RWD fiat 500?

Or a GTR powered Juke... yeah!!! Nissan does kick ass!!

Matej · 04-01-2012, 02:24 PM

Too bad it is ugly.

Zilmatic · 04-01-2012, 02:35 PM

BOROSUN · 04-01-2012, 03:04 PM

I can sort of see it...Comparing technically it's very similar to the 240sx more than the z33.

ronmcdon · 04-01-2012, 03:25 PM

you know there is more to life than the 240sx.
who cares what the sucessor is, just appreciate the car for what it is.

a lot of 240 owners (on this site at least) aren't just broke, they're never happy with any new car, always have something to whine about.
It's absolutely depressing to come on here and see threads like this.

S-Nation S13 · 04-01-2012, 03:27 PM

No the stupid v8 America bullshit has hit the mother land..no! At least revive the 2j ..Its been proven..

Corbic · 04-01-2012, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by S-Nation S13

No the stupid v8 America bullshit has hit the mother land..no! At least revive the 2j ..Its been proven..

Yes, cause V8s are not.

I'm sure that V8 weighs less and makes more power than most 2Js, all the while not suffering form turbo lag and heat issues. That is why V8s are dominating in professional drifting.

sr20comic · 04-01-2012, 03:39 PM

Its been announced that Nissan is developing an s16 concept. It's happening

Zilmatic · 04-01-2012, 03:45 PM

^ It hasnt been announced its just a rumor.... I wouldnt count on it

TougeSR20Kid · 04-01-2012, 03:48 PM

^^ seriously... It's hard for me to get even a wiggle down there from this, cus after all it's just another v8 powered drift missile, would be way cooler if they had just upgraded on the existing platform or swapped for a 6 cylinder turbo

As for the car itself, I hope they do well, can't see why they wouldn't aside from the shitty economy and rising gas prices, but hey hopefully there are enough spoiled rich high school and college kids, young professionals, and avid Subaru enthusiasts... As far as the FRS I can already see the Honda boys and scion boys fucking it all up and making them all lame

S-Nation S13 · 04-01-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

Yes, cause V8s are not.

I'm sure that V8 weighs less and makes more power than most 2Js, all the while not suffering form turbo lag and heat issues. That is why V8s are dominating in professional drifting.

Reason why their domination is bc everyone's using them...popularity in numbers thats all...

RB25 ZENKI · 04-01-2012, 03:51 PM

is it just me or is the brz ugly as hell! and how can it be its "successor"? the s chassis is and always will be one of the best cars to drift.

Corbic · 04-01-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by S-Nation S13

Reason why their domination is bc everyone's using them...popularity in numbers thats all...

Things are popular for a reason. V8s are popular because they are inexpensive, compact, simple and make shit tons of power. They also make that power right off idle, meaning when you lift off the gas and hit the throttle again there is no turbo lag. This is crucial when trying to do tandems and keep a perfect line.

Don't hate the playa, hate the game.

codyace · 04-01-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

Things are popular for a reason. V8s are popular because they are inexpensive, compact, simple and make shit tons of power. They also make that power right off idle, meaning when you lift off the gas and hit the throttle again there is no turbo lag. This is crucial when trying to do tandems and keep a perfect line.

Don't hate the playa, hate the game.

Pushrods, Apple Pie, and Brunettes.

What else do ya need in life.

Ok, maybe Monster Trucks.

simmode1 · 04-01-2012, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

The 350z is right now the "new 240sx", there are a million out there and you can get one for 10k. You'd have to spend at least 10k to get a 240sx to perform like a Z33.

FRZ is $25k, while its a great car, is it $15k greater than my Z? Is it worth $500 a month to me? Not really, and most 240sx owners are bigger broke asses then even me.

This. All of it. It's like Nissan realized most of us would just rip out the backseats anyway & saved us the trouble. Oh, you still want backseats? G35 Coupe. Oh, you're getting more mature but still wanna get your hoon on? G35 Sedan 6mt. Their performance specs are all reasonably enough close enough to make me happy.

At this point, I couldn't care less about a 240sx successor. Now, a successor to the Silvia? That's a different story. The Genesis is the closest right now. It would be great if it lost a lot of weight when the next gen comes out. I might consider straying when the 2013+ Genesis coupe 2.0T gets cheaper.

Until the new FR-S/BRZ is offered with some factory boost , it's not even on my bang for your buck radar. And no, I do not want a TRD supercharger...

ILoveMyRHS13 · 04-01-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Matej

Too bad it is ugly.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

BustedS13 · 04-01-2012, 06:22 PM

what a sweet ride, i'd totally take one of those over a z33 and ten grand in my pocket

Sterlz · 04-01-2012, 06:32 PM

NIssan has to cut this juke-r crap and just make a new silvia. At least that 86 has a toyota v8, that actually sounds better than the typical LS. But yeah I cant wait for someone to throw a 2j in there.

ghoti · 04-01-2012, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by S-Nation S13

No the stupid v8 America bullshit has hit the mother land..no! At least revive the 2j ..Its been proven..

revive the 2jz? I think they tried with the sc300 but it was NA. Also the IS300 & GS300 which are also NA and weigh a shit ton.

BustedS13 · 04-01-2012, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ghoti

revive the 2jz? I think they tried with the sc300 but it was NA. Also the IS300 & GS300 which are also NA and weigh a shit ton.

the sc300 started production before the mkiv supra

Catch240 · 04-01-2012, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codyace

Pushrods, Apple Pie, and Brunettes.

What else do ya need in life.

Ok, maybe Monster Trucks.

truth...

I agree that the 350z = 240sx successor...shit ton of them out there and you can get one for 10k.

MadScientist · 04-01-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by codyace

Solid Pivots, Cherry Pie, and Red Heads

What else do ya need in life.

Ok, maybe Trophy Trucks.

Corrected this for you...

04-01-2012, 11:45 AM	#1
scottie Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: asluT Posts: 1,287 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Subaru BRZ = 240sx Successor Looks like we have a solid successor to the 240sx chassis in 10 years when they come down on price. 2012 MAX ORIDO D1GP NEW MACHINE TOYOTA V8 86 SHAKEDOWN - YouTube Yes Please!!!

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TheWolf Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange Park, FL (Jax) Posts: 1,468 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow.. another v8 high HP drift machine based on an anemic factory car.. what's next, a v8 powered RWD fiat 500? __________________ Eye on the Prize

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KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	Nissan will revive the Silvia if the BRZ/FR-S does well. I can almost guarentee it. I've been telling all my friends who own Subarus / Toyotas to trade in their current car for one when they release... __________________

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BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 39 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what a sweet ride, i'd totally take one of those over a z33 and ten grand in my pocket __________________

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Zilmatic Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: bc Age: 32 Posts: 101 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Not really a successor just cause its a entry level JDM RWD car...

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scottie Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: asluT Posts: 1,287 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Well Toyota / Subaru chassis. I wish Nissan would answer the call.

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Zilmatic Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: bc Age: 32 Posts: 101 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^ Possibly if the economy and market for these kinda cars get better.... hopefully they wont fuck it up like what mazda did with the rx-8

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Corbic Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: US Age: 40 Posts: 8,225 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Why does everyone go Gaga over the BRZ and not the FRS? Subaru has done well their their marketing. A true "240sx" successor would be a car that sells extremely well (in large volumes) but then a few years latter prices drop to the floor. I don't see the FRZ selling in great volumes or even sustaining multiple generations (I hope they do however). The 350z is right now the "new 240sx", there are a million out there and you can get one for 10k. You'd have to spend at least 10k to get a 240sx to perform like a Z33. FRZ is $25k, while its a great car, is it $15k greater than my Z? Is it worth $500 a month to me? Not really, and most 240sx owners are bigger broke asses then even me.

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BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 43 Posts: 5,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I can sort of see it...Comparing technically it's very similar to the 240sx more than the z33.

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ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	you know there is more to life than the 240sx. who cares what the sucessor is, just appreciate the car for what it is. a lot of 240 owners (on this site at least) aren't just broke, they're never happy with any new car, always have something to whine about. It's absolutely depressing to come on here and see threads like this.

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S-Nation S13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LAND of the LOST Posts: 4,083 Trader Rating: (92) Feedback Score: 92 reviews	No the stupid v8 America bullshit has hit the mother land..no! At least revive the 2j ..Its been proven..

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sr20comic Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: ridgecrest Age: 34 Posts: 147 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Its been announced that Nissan is developing an s16 concept. It's happening

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Zilmatic Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: bc Age: 32 Posts: 101 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^ It hasnt been announced its just a rumor.... I wouldnt count on it

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RB25 ZENKI Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: San Antonio Age: 32 Posts: 53 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	is it just me or is the brz ugly as hell! and how can it be its "successor"? the s chassis is and always will be one of the best cars to drift.

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Sterlz Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: the land where everybody gets it all wrong Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	NIssan has to cut this juke-r crap and just make a new silvia. At least that 86 has a toyota v8, that actually sounds better than the typical LS. But yeah I cant wait for someone to throw a 2j in there. __________________ http://sterlz.wordpress.com/