Stuck between 2 cars!

[need2speed94]

Alright... I'm in need for a car fast, I've found 2 candidates... One of which I'm actually going to see tomorrow and intended to buy (300ZX NA). That was, until I found a Sil40 Coupe for the same price in very nice condition. Both are nice cars and I've noticed what I don't like about both.

Bads:

300ZX

Front bumper is different color
It's NA -_-
High mileage on the chassis (300,xxx)
Higher insurance than the 240

Sil40

No trunk key
Air intake leak the guy says... So a vacuum leak of some sort?
Oil leak
The Sil front is missing the left amber turn signal

Here are the cars...

1990 300zx sale/trade 3500 obo
1989 240sx coupe

Advice on which I should get?

[Sileighty_85]

Id go for the car that is cheaper and easier to maintain

[need2speed94]

Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

Id go for the car that is cheaper and easier to maintain

Well they are both going for the same price... The 240 would be a TON easier to work on, although the Z has a 30,xxx mile motor and it's most likely in better condition than the KA24 that's at 146,xxx. Kinda of a dilemma.

[Sileighty_85]

I mean cheaper to maintain.

Clearly you have never worked on a Z.

The engine bay is not really mechanic friendly.

If you have little mechanical experience and funds Id go with the S13

You can find KA's like penny's on the streets and can swap an engine in a day.

[need2speed94]

Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

I mean cheaper to maintain.

Clearly you have never worked on a Z.

The engine bay is not really mechanic friendly.

If you have little mechanical experience and funds Id go with the S13

You can find KA's like penny's on the streets and can swap an engine in a day.

Yeah I haven't. Last time I even was near a Z was when my dad owned one (10+years ago). But I know the engine bay is just a terrible disaster. I am used to cramped engine bays though, I had an LS1 Camaro and it was just as bad under the hood. Hmm, I really do have a thing for S13's. I'm just wondering which vacuum line is missing and what else could be wrong with it.

[Kuma]

I don't trust people so unless the guy can prove otherwise, I'd assume that engine has 100k+ on the 300zx. I've also read too many horror stories about JDM engines to buy a car with a fresh swap. Why swap in an engine from Japanland just to turn around and sell the car? Why not pull a cheap running engine from a JY?

[dawagarage]

+1 for the S over the Z.
i have an s14 and a TT z32. the S is obviously going to be less expensive to fix & maintain. the z's engine bay is such a crammed bitch to work in/on. plus i wouldnt fuck with anything with that many miles.

[need2speed94]

Originally Posted by Kuma

I don't trust people so unless the guy can prove otherwise, I'd assume that engine has 100k+ on the 300zx. I've also read too many horror stories about JDM engines to buy a car with a fresh swap. Why swap in an engine from Japanland just to turn around and sell the car? Why not pull a cheap running engine from a JY?

Yeah that's smart.

Originally Posted by hotboiblaze

+1 for the S over the Z.
i have an s14 and a TT z32. the S is obviously going to be less expensive to fix & maintain. the z's engine bay is such a crammed bitch to work in/on. plus i wouldnt fuck with anything with that many miles.

AND it's going to be less to insure. I found out that the Z even being the NA model will be more expensive to insure than my LS1 Camaro. Wasn't too happy about that but man are those good looking cars. I feel like 240's are people's toys... which is why I am so skeptical to buy them.

[closgatakouki]

Damn 89 coupe for sure if it were in east coast wouldv sold in heart brat

[Kuma]

Originally Posted by need2speed94

I feel like 240's are people's toys... which is why I am so skeptical to buy them.

Any sporty car is someone's toy... Depends on your level of income. Just because you have enough money to have a camaro SS, M3 or 300zx TT doesn't mean you have the experience to do proper work on them (not saying you specifically). You want a car that hasn't been dogged out/tore up? Buy a stock camry. It's just the nature of the beast.

[need2speed94]

Originally Posted by Kuma

Any sporty car is someone's toy... Depends on your level of income. Just because you have enough money to have a camaro SS, M3 or 300zx TT doesn't mean you have the experience to do proper work on them (not saying you specifically). You want a car that hasn't been dogged out/tore up? Buy a stock camry. It's just the nature of the beast.

Yeah I know, that... It's just most 240's I've been looking at have been through hell and back ya know? It's somewhat hard to find one that isn't in bad condition in some aspect. The only thing wrong with this one is it needs some valve cover bolts, which I could most likely find at Pick N Pull, a gasket that I could get at autozone, and one of the air intake vacuum lines (not sure which one).

[s14j]

there both so over priced. i think you can find something nicer cleaner for cheep.

[JasianBlazin]

lol at these threads.

[need2speed94]

Originally Posted by s14j

there both so over priced. i think you can find something nicer cleaner for cheep.

The guy with the Sil40 said he'll do 3200. Still a bit steep for an 89, but the paint is actually good, the interior is also good, and it's got the Sil front.

Originally Posted by JasianBlazin

lol at these threads.

Well hey it gave you something to comment on since you have nothing better to do didn't it

[KiLLeR2001]

S13 hardtop coupe, cant go wrong

[need2speed94]

The more and more I think about it... 300,xxx mile 300ZX? F THAT.

[Kuma]

Originally Posted by need2speed94

The guy with the Sil40 said he'll do 3200. Still a bit steep for an 89, but the paint is actually good, the interior is also good, and it's got the Sil front.

What's it worth to you? sil front, missing a corner lense? dohc swap thats leaking both oil and vacuum leak(s) and apparently missing bolts (WTF?)... To me, that car isnt worth more than $2k, and thats if there is no rust either... But then again I had patience and got a zenki s14 for about 2k.

[Slammed Assassin]

I'd rather jump on the s13! easy to work on and maintain.

[Kevin920415]

get s13 period.

[need2speed94]

Originally Posted by Kuma

What's it worth to you? sil front, missing a corner lense? dohc swap thats leaking both oil and vacuum leak(s) and apparently missing bolts (WTF?)... To me, that car isnt worth more than $2k, and thats if there is no rust either... But then again I had patience and got a zenki s14 for about 2k.

Honestly it's been hard to find even a decent 240 around here. I really wish I was located in SoCal where there is more selection. I think I'll pickup the 300ZX and just baby it and use it as a daily in the meantime and hold out on the 240... again :/

Originally Posted by Slammed Assassin

I'd rather jump on the s13! easy to work on and maintain.

Very true. Although I need a car that runs fine and doesn't need any maintenance as is. I just sold my other car that was running and I can't work until I have another car. Yeah I know... Smart hah.

Originally Posted by Kevin920415

get s13 period.

My time will come I guess

[Kuma]

Whats wrong with this car?

1993 240SX Auto

Or this one? I bet you could talk this guy down to $2200
1996 240sx s14 very clean $2700 obo

After looking on your local CL, you picked 2 of the shittiest cars on there. I see a riced out piece of shit in your near future.

[need2speed94]

Originally Posted by Kuma

Whats wrong with this car?

1993 240SX Auto

Or this one? I bet you could talk this guy down to $2200
1996 240sx s14 very clean $2700 obo

After looking on your local CL, you picked 2 of the shittiest cars on there. I see a riced out piece of shit in your near future.

1. I don't care what the reason for it was, but I don't buy salvage title cars anymore.
2. Automatics aren't for me. Hell, an automatic 240 would get worse gas milage than my 6 Speed LS1 Camaro. That's pitiful. I'm going to be driving 40 miles a day for school plus however much I drive for work.

Yes, I am picky about what I want. I don't want to spend money and not be happy. What fun would that be And as for your "funny" comment about me owning a ricey car in the future... Not a chance. Maybe a car that needs work... but not ricey!

[Kuma]

Fair enough... Auto 240sx's aren't bad on gas at all. And you could always do a 5spd swap... But you'd rather spend all your time and money fixing someone else's hacked up project. Good luck to you.

[need2speed94]

Originally Posted by Kuma

Fair enough... Auto 240sx's aren't bad on gas at all. And you could always do a 5spd swap... But you'd rather spend all your time and money fixing someone else's hacked up project. Good luck to you.

Well they aren't THAT bad... but put it like this, my 5.7L, 3600lb Camaro got 17 city 28 highway. That makes the KA look really bad lol. One day I'll find the 240 for me

[Kuma]

You do realize that 300zx is going to get worse gas mileage right? What does the "94" in your SN mean? Is that the year you were born? That would explain a lot. Welcome to zilvia, please stick around and make a thread about the car you end up buying.

Gas Mileage of 1995 Vehicles by Nissan

[need2speed94]

Originally Posted by Kuma

You do realize that 300zx is going to get worse gas mileage right? What does the "94" in your SN mean? Is that the year you were born? That would explain a lot. Welcome to zilvia, please stick around and make a thread about the car you end up buying.

Gas Mileage of 1995 Vehicles by Nissan

Yeah... and insurance will be more. I'm over that. I'm just saying... for a 4 cyl to get the same gas as a V8 even when the 4 cyl is powering a lighter car, that's just not right. And yes it is. I'm still young hop off! Fact of the matter is I'm buying myself another car and it's coming down to a lot of factors. If I didn't have to commute everyday I'd just pickup that Sil40 right now and call it a day. I'm just trying to make the best decision.

[lilnick122891]

You had a ls camero and you were born in 94? if i were you i would talk down that guy with the auto 14 and do a 5spd swap and call it a day or just leave it auto. Ive seen that sil40 in person and its a overpriced pos, atleast with the auto you know it probaly hasnt been raped much.

[JdmDrift4Food]

Why do you need a bunch of strangers on the internet to choose a car for you????? I really dont understand people these days. I mean, I understand your probably still in high school, but you should still be able to make your own decision.. Plus, no one cares about your ls1 Camaro so stop mentioning and secretly bragging about it. If your looking for opinions, I say go back to your camaros and stop wasting bandwidth on our s and z chassis site... Just my 2cents, but your entitled to your own decisions.

[Piggy]

Neither. Get a Civic.

[Sumslapper]

All that coupe needs is some nice wheels an coils. The 300zx takes a lot more money to look and perform proper. Thanks for the link maybe I will go swoop that coupe