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GL Chrillz · 10-26-2012, 07:15 AM

I just swapped my sr20 to another s13 shell, and while it was out i took my motor mounts in to school and welded some plate steel to them to make them solid since they were worn to hell and it's going to be a track car. i just put the motor in last night, and since the mounts have no give anymore, the trans mount is off slightly. the trans lines up perfectly, just the mount is off...is there any problem with me removing the rubber off the trans mount, lining that up and making it solid as well and calling it a day?

*fliprayzin240sx* · 10-26-2012, 07:25 AM

Solid mounts on a 4 banger...baaaaaaaad idea.

ForeignMuscle · 10-26-2012, 07:38 AM

You will regret this big time, but if you want, I will sell you my Delrin poly solid mounts that actually line up. You can have them for $20 if you want. You WILL regret this, guaranteed. I wouldn't have solids on a race car much less a street car. It was embarrassing it was so bad. My girlfriend wouldn't ride in it, people at red lights could hear it vibrating. Do what you do though. You have been warned.

Pinggg · 10-26-2012, 08:03 AM

You took solid mounts to another level, your one crazy dude.

Chaluska · 10-26-2012, 08:07 AM

im with everyone else.. i had solid mounts like 3 years ago, the vibrations were so bad, after about a week, everything in my car was rattling and squeeking so bad, it sounded like a mouse orgy in a tin can.

id never recommend solid mounts ever on a 4 cylinder unless it was completely balanced, and was race only.

project-D180 · 10-26-2012, 08:13 AM

urethane mount r the way to go,you'll have some vibration but you fillings or car wont fall apart

future · 10-26-2012, 08:52 AM

I had solid mounts once, on my ka. Yeah that lasted a day lol

GL Chrillz · 10-26-2012, 09:52 AM

they're really that bad?

it's definitely not going to be a daily driver at all.

living4surf · 10-26-2012, 10:06 AM

i dont find my solid metal mounts that bad i dont recommend it for a daily but for just a weekend fun car or the track i love the solid feel they give you

zooopreme · 10-26-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GL Chrillz

they're really that bad?

it's definitely not going to be a daily driver at all.

It really depends on preference. I had a friend who tracked his DD and had solid mounts, he didn't mind it but I never liked riding in his car anywhere.

GL Chrillz · 10-26-2012, 11:03 AM

I might drive it to school once in a while or something just to work on it, show some buddies, etc. but mostly it's going to be tracked. I got the same response about solid subframe risers and how they ride horribly. i dailied on those and a welded diff for 6 months on michigan roads slammed and didn't bother me...guess i'll see how it feels maybe get some oem mounts to keep as spares. back to the question, can i just cut out the rubber on the trans mount, line it up and weld it together? as long as the trans is lined up it should be good to go right?

ForeignMuscle · 10-26-2012, 11:08 AM

People I know don't even race with them. Your engine needs movement and shock absorbing will happen in other areas if not in your mounts. Ie: your axles, driveshaft, your ass bone, etc..

HS13KLS · 10-26-2012, 11:21 AM

I have had solid mounts in a few cars.. Even with the solid urethane bushings sucked. IMO its not for me. track or daily. I ended up buying just used oem motor mounts. and I agree with ForeignMuscle , the vibrations will go everywhere. My dash would vibrate so loud I couldn't think at lights. but I guess if racecar -_-'

GL Chrillz · 10-26-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeignMuscle

People I know don't even race with them. Your engine needs movement and shock absorbing will happen in other areas if not in your mounts. Ie: your axles, driveshaft, your ass bone, etc..

didn't really think of it that way. I guess i'll get the car running and try and find some OEM ones >.>

GL Chrillz · 10-26-2012, 01:47 PM

ok this is a really "backyard bob auto" question here, but can you cheap out and use hockey pucks as a motor mount? i see some people talking about it with a little googling, and i'm sure i have a ton of hockey pucks laying around. this would be about the same as a poly mount right?

Corbic · 10-26-2012, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GL Chrillz

ok this is a really "backyard bob auto" question here, but can you cheap out and use hockey pucks as a motor mount? i see some people talking about it with a little googling, and i'm sure i have a ton of hockey pucks laying around. this would be about the same as a poly mount right?

Yes, its the best route actually. Hockey Pucks are vulcanized rubber, its a bit stiffer than polly but if you do it right they work great and will last longer.

Here is what most poly's look like -

And the Hockey's -

The only problem is, you are going to what 2.5" motor mounts for a stock Nissan engine (SR/KA/CA). Pucks are 1". So either cut one in half (not recommended) or get some sort of metal spacer. I believe my friend just stacked some thick ass fender washers in the center. $8 for the pucks and hardware.

bc. · 10-26-2012, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GL Chrillz

ok this is a really "backyard bob auto" question here, but can you cheap out and use hockey pucks as a motor mount? i see some people talking about it with a little googling, and i'm sure i have a ton of hockey pucks laying around. this would be about the same as a poly mount right?

I usually don't cry foul when it is obvious that someone hasn't searched, but you need to search a little harder on this. I know there are allot of extra hockey pucks around these days... but you have much less canadian-ghetto options out there.

Matej · 10-26-2012, 04:52 PM

You can use OEM Z32 motor mounts.
They fit the same as S-chassis mounts yet will be stiffer since they are made for a heavier motor. Plus they are less bulky.

Megan offers an even harder version, but they are very overpriced.

ForeignMuscle · 10-26-2012, 04:57 PM

I have a set of polys just like the red ones posted... $20 and I'll ship them to you. You were warned though.

280zx2by2 · 10-27-2012, 01:09 AM

I have poly Cusco's on my daily driver, I have almost no motor movement and I love the feel.

Never rode in a 240sx with solids but I have rode in an EF civic with them and it rattled your ass hairs to the point of you having to lift your rear out of the seat to avoid the tickle fight you were having with the engine.

jamg · 10-27-2012, 02:09 AM

here's a quick fix.

i put that stuff all over my stock mounts. it should hold up.

GL Chrillz · 10-27-2012, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeignMuscle

I have a set of polys just like the red ones posted... $20 and I'll ship them to you. You were warned though.

pm me pics

ForeignMuscle · 10-27-2012, 09:39 AM

Used for maybe 100 miles.

GL Chrillz · 10-27-2012, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeignMuscle

Used for maybe 100 miles.

wow they look brand new...20 bucks? might as well do that. PM me your paypal

ForeignMuscle · 10-27-2012, 03:06 PM

You'll need to buy another bolt. I bought them at a hardware store so no biggie. The mounts are brand new though. I have no need for them.

CaptainVlad · 10-27-2012, 03:28 PM

Idk why everyone always complains about solid mounts...

I have the Avid mounts, which are solid, but have a small piece of rubber in them. (which I doubt do anything) With solid mounts motor/trans mounts, solid subframe mounts, and a weld in roll cage, it vibrates as you would expect, but it's not bad at all....Granted my car is not a daily driver, but still...

AsleepAltima · 10-27-2012, 03:38 PM

so im not stepping on toes here, whoever has another set - i believe there were 2 sets offered in this thread - ill buy the set he doesnt. just pm the paypal and its done.
thanks!

BRAIN_Z33 · 10-27-2012, 05:01 PM

Drift freaq mounts.

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*fliprayzin240sx* · 10-27-2012, 05:47 PM

I got a used set of URAS Engine mounts...still stiffer than anything I've used before new and wont rattle your windshield off. Check my thread in my sig if you wanna check it out.

stev0n · 10-28-2012, 02:57 AM

Ny nephew's RB'd hatch has solid motor mounts and it feels very similar to my old stock s13 with stock mounts. Is it as smooth as my granny car (mercury sable)? well fuck no. But i don't think it rides bad at all & it's his DD. Especially not as terribly as others feel about solid mounts.

I've got solid mounts in my LS s13 because they were $100 cheaper than the poly counterpart. But I haven't driven it yet.

10-26-2012, 07:15 AM	#1
GL Chrillz Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2011 Location: ann arbor michigan Age: 33 Posts: 307 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	solid motor mount question I just swapped my sr20 to another s13 shell, and while it was out i took my motor mounts in to school and welded some plate steel to them to make them solid since they were worn to hell and it's going to be a track car. i just put the motor in last night, and since the mounts have no give anymore, the trans mount is off slightly. the trans lines up perfectly, just the mount is off...is there any problem with me removing the rubber off the trans mount, lining that up and making it solid as well and calling it a day?

10-26-2012, 07:25 AM	#2
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Solid mounts on a 4 banger...baaaaaaaad idea. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

10-26-2012, 08:07 AM	#5
Chaluska Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: Missouri City, TX Age: 40 Posts: 997 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	im with everyone else.. i had solid mounts like 3 years ago, the vibrations were so bad, after about a week, everything in my car was rattling and squeeking so bad, it sounded like a mouse orgy in a tin can. id never recommend solid mounts ever on a 4 cylinder unless it was completely balanced, and was race only. __________________

10-27-2012, 05:47 PM	#29
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I got a used set of URAS Engine mounts...still stiffer than anything I've used before new and wont rattle your windshield off. Check my thread in my sig if you wanna check it out. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

10-26-2012, 07:38 AM	#3
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	You will regret this big time, but if you want, I will sell you my Delrin poly solid mounts that actually line up. You can have them for $20 if you want. You WILL regret this, guaranteed. I wouldn't have solids on a race car much less a street car. It was embarrassing it was so bad. My girlfriend wouldn't ride in it, people at red lights could hear it vibrating. Do what you do though. You have been warned.

10-26-2012, 08:03 AM	#4
Pinggg Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Coconut Creek, Florida Age: 30 Posts: 1,255 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	You took solid mounts to another level, your one crazy dude.

10-26-2012, 08:13 AM	#6
project-D180 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: south caroloina Posts: 987 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	urethane mount r the way to go,you'll have some vibration but you fillings or car wont fall apart

10-26-2012, 09:52 AM	#8
GL Chrillz Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2011 Location: ann arbor michigan Age: 33 Posts: 307 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	they're really that bad? it's definitely not going to be a daily driver at all.

10-26-2012, 10:06 AM	#9
living4surf Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: jupiter Age: 38 Posts: 1,701 Trader Rating: (52) Feedback Score: 52 reviews	i dont find my solid metal mounts that bad i dont recommend it for a daily but for just a weekend fun car or the track i love the solid feel they give you

10-26-2012, 11:03 AM	#11
GL Chrillz Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2011 Location: ann arbor michigan Age: 33 Posts: 307 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I might drive it to school once in a while or something just to work on it, show some buddies, etc. but mostly it's going to be tracked. I got the same response about solid subframe risers and how they ride horribly. i dailied on those and a welded diff for 6 months on michigan roads slammed and didn't bother me...guess i'll see how it feels maybe get some oem mounts to keep as spares. back to the question, can i just cut out the rubber on the trans mount, line it up and weld it together? as long as the trans is lined up it should be good to go right?

10-26-2012, 11:08 AM	#12
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	People I know don't even race with them. Your engine needs movement and shock absorbing will happen in other areas if not in your mounts. Ie: your axles, driveshaft, your ass bone, etc..

10-26-2012, 11:21 AM	#13
HS13KLS Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Illinois/California Age: 34 Posts: 1,114 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I have had solid mounts in a few cars.. Even with the solid urethane bushings sucked. IMO its not for me. track or daily. I ended up buying just used oem motor mounts. and I agree with ForeignMuscle , the vibrations will go everywhere. My dash would vibrate so loud I couldn't think at lights. but I guess if racecar -_-'

10-26-2012, 01:47 PM	#15
GL Chrillz Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2011 Location: ann arbor michigan Age: 33 Posts: 307 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ok this is a really "backyard bob auto" question here, but can you cheap out and use hockey pucks as a motor mount? i see some people talking about it with a little googling, and i'm sure i have a ton of hockey pucks laying around. this would be about the same as a poly mount right?

10-26-2012, 04:52 PM	#18
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	You can use OEM Z32 motor mounts. They fit the same as S-chassis mounts yet will be stiffer since they are made for a heavier motor. Plus they are less bulky. Megan offers an even harder version, but they are very overpriced.

10-26-2012, 04:57 PM	#19
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	I have a set of polys just like the red ones posted... $20 and I'll ship them to you. You were warned though.

10-27-2012, 01:09 AM	#20
280zx2by2 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tucson AZ Age: 32 Posts: 181 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I have poly Cusco's on my daily driver, I have almost no motor movement and I love the feel. Never rode in a 240sx with solids but I have rode in an EF civic with them and it rattled your ass hairs to the point of you having to lift your rear out of the seat to avoid the tickle fight you were having with the engine.

10-27-2012, 02:09 AM	#21
jamg Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2009 Location: GA Posts: 2,106 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	here's a quick fix. i put that stuff all over my stock mounts. it should hold up.

10-27-2012, 09:39 AM	#23
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Used for maybe 100 miles.

10-27-2012, 03:06 PM	#25
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	You'll need to buy another bolt. I bought them at a hardware store so no biggie. The mounts are brand new though. I have no need for them.

10-27-2012, 03:28 PM	#26
CaptainVlad Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago, Illinois Age: 33 Posts: 329 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Idk why everyone always complains about solid mounts... I have the Avid mounts, which are solid, but have a small piece of rubber in them. (which I doubt do anything) With solid mounts motor/trans mounts, solid subframe mounts, and a weld in roll cage, it vibrates as you would expect, but it's not bad at all....Granted my car is not a daily driver, but still...

10-27-2012, 03:38 PM	#27
AsleepAltima Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Ca Age: 51 Posts: 667 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	so im not stepping on toes here, whoever has another set - i believe there were 2 sets offered in this thread - ill buy the set he doesnt. just pm the paypal and its done. thanks!

10-27-2012, 05:01 PM	#28
BRAIN_Z33 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: CA 909 ie Posts: 1,249 Trader Rating: (20) Rides Gallery: BRAIN_Z33 Feedback Score: 20 reviews	Drift freaq mounts. End thread

10-28-2012, 02:57 AM	#30
stev0n Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bowling Green, Ky Age: 38 Posts: 146 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Ny nephew's RB'd hatch has solid motor mounts and it feels very similar to my old stock s13 with stock mounts. Is it as smooth as my granny car (mercury sable)? well fuck no. But i don't think it rides bad at all & it's his DD. Especially not as terribly as others feel about solid mounts. I've got solid mounts in my LS s13 because they were $100 cheaper than the poly counterpart. But I haven't driven it yet.