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thewholefnshow · 01-26-2002, 11:45 PM

I just got back from the montreal car show... and daewoo made me laugh, they have on one engine in bold letters e-tec... a daewoo with vvt was enough to make me laugh on it's own, then I looked in the higher model and it was d-tec... maybe they are building up to a-tec or something??? Losers... no wonder they went bankrupt. Saw the matrix, the new tiburon and the ser.... those are some super nice cars for the money...

DragonReborn214 · 01-27-2002, 01:44 AM

Wouldn't they be working their way down to, say, a-tec? Since the lower model is E, and the higher D?

Although, I agree with you that it is completely lame! I mean, just give Honda/Acura the credit for coming up with the phrase (insert letter here)-tec. What about ford and their "zetec"

*Grant* · 01-27-2002, 02:13 AM

I thought ford uses Dura - tec now. lol

duderiffic · 01-27-2002, 02:41 AM

Did Hyundai match the snarling nastiness of their previous Tiburon?  That's a pretty tall order... those cars are so "ghetto ghetto I got a nice car look at me"  ugly piles!  I think it's funny to watch Hyundai rally those cars.  Kinda like how Huffy sponsers BMX, but um... buy their bike and....

thewholefnshow · 01-27-2002, 08:39 AM

Honestly, that new tiburon is really nice, great seats, great feel, good look, 180hp in the v6.... they will be kicking our asses on the roads very soon sadley enough.

S13 Passion · 01-27-2002, 09:26 AM

yeah, everyone keeps saying the new tiburons are nice.  i just cant be convinced..... can someone post some pics of it?

chickenmanq · 01-27-2002, 09:51 AM

I think it's ugly.  Dog doo ugly.  <img src=http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~mka/tiburon.jpg>

S13 Passion · 01-27-2002, 09:57 AM

yeah, it looks pretty ugly.... i rarely see a difference from the old one anyway.

*transient* · 01-27-2002, 10:25 AM

reminds me a bit of an older celica

*ca18guy* · 01-27-2002, 10:29 AM

Thats the old Tiburon, this is the 2002 model with the V6, making a whooping 180 HP.

duderiffic · 01-27-2002, 11:20 AM

Everything with that squirely (H) will always looks ugly.  I guess it's  cool & all it can kick my ass until it gets recalled and it falls apart =P  .... Actually Hyundai's aren't too bad.... compared to Kia!! Kias are total balls of shit!

J

*sykikchimp* · 01-27-2002, 12:44 PM

I thinkm the new Tiburon's a Phizzatt..  I like the new look a lot.. and the 180 ponies sounds nice.  I'm definately gonna have to go test drive one..  Too bad its still FF though

burgy240 · 01-27-2002, 01:20 PM

the new tibby is nice.  And for all those that think it;s a cheap piece of sheeeit,  this is how honda and toyota started out in this country years ago.  Hyndai has the BEST warranty of any car in the states and they are starting to give style and low grade luxury for less than the competition.  I'm not saying these are great cars, just saying that every company has to get their foot in the door somehow.  

duderiffic · 01-27-2002, 01:45 PM

Burgy,
    Good point... but I think on something like a car you want good quality over good value.   Sure it's cool and all to get a brand new car with a 10 year warranty... Hey you ever seen Tommy Boy?  Anyways... Hyundai's have above average problems... and until they start making them a more quality vechile they probably always will... if they start making them nice... wait.. then the price goes up.  I'm not a good person to ask however, if two thingsss are the same price, I'd probably buy the more expensive one just to know I did.

Hah

White240sx · 01-27-2002, 02:25 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from duderiffic on 11:20 am on Jan. 27, 2002
.... Actually Hyundai's aren't too bad.... compared to Kia!! Kias are total balls of shit!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Interesting considering Kia is a division of Hyundai Heavy Industries and they share the same part bin. :o:o

duderiffic · 01-27-2002, 03:03 PM

Yea... kinda like Infiinti was rated #2 for quality (as far as things going wrong)  ... and Nissan was just one above average (around #16 or #17) That study was for 1997 models by JD Powers & Associates.

J

gsrcamel · 01-27-2002, 05:46 PM

Yeah the side view of that car kicks major asp. I think they are finally getting good responce from the import market.

But because it has that ugly "H" on it its reviews will be low. There is a girl at my school that has the new lexus and she was pulling in the school and another girl was like WOW what kinda car is that. and I said its a KIA, she was like yeah it looks cheap. I was like well accually its a 40K lexus but If I told you that you would not have said it looks cheap. People buy names as Icons to their own self riotousness thus being the reason I removed all emblems to my car.

duderiffic · 01-27-2002, 07:20 PM

Yea... that new Kia luxury sedan is kinda funky looking, but it's allright... if it said Jaguar I'd probably like it.  But if it said  Jag it would probably break more than the Hyundai!!

Hah

gh6o6 · 01-27-2002, 07:29 PM

my dad just bought a kia and its nice as ####! it got every accesory that my moms 3.2tl has with the only exceptions of power (170 hp) heated seats and auto dimming mirror (ill be installing one complete with compass and temp as soon as i buy it for his birthday)
plus it has 100,000/10 yr bumper to bumper and lifetime drivetrain which is pretty good if you ask me the only thing i dont like it the fact that its a kia

Drifting Ricer · 01-27-2002, 08:17 PM

Man fu* the warranties you guys sound like a bunch of old geezers! When you're buying a "sporty car", you're buying it for performance. Maybe that's just me being young <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>. 180 HP v6 is not performance. Look at the SE-R V-spec 175HP I4. That thing better have lot of torque. Just another civic look a like to me.  I keep hearing 200HP neon I4 turbo what's that all about?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> Now that one will be the better choice.

S13Grl · 01-27-2002, 08:28 PM

This thread is hillarious.

Hyunday is simply the alternative for buying used cars. The sad truth is that sometimes, you're probably better off buying a used car. They're simply poor-quality, power-deprived automobiles. Yeah, they may offer accessories. Great. Sounds like women's market. Or rather, average women's market.

let's go back to real cars now... please <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> ?

COUGAR · 01-27-2002, 08:31 PM

the DURATEC has been around for quite a few years and the escort ZX2's have always had ZETEC's in em i think

White240sx · 01-27-2002, 09:41 PM

This is pretty funny, the Japanese car was a cheap alternative to the American car (which wasn't accepted right away), and now the Korean car is the cheap alternative to the Japanese car (which is slowly being accepted). Just think, your kids will all be running around in Kias and Hyundais with "KDM" parts and will BS about turbo plans and engine swaps...lol

Drifting Ricer · 01-27-2002, 09:53 PM

No say it ain't so  White240sx ! No I will feed my kids Japanese car to make sure they will like what I like!

duderiffic · 01-28-2002, 12:08 AM

White240,
    Man the future is here now!  I have a budy that just wont stop dumping money into a 92 Hyundai SCOUPE.  Man I don't even know how to stop him... and yes.. turbo's on the books.

He's already spent probably 10k in body and paint.... YUK!

Archangel · 01-28-2002, 12:11 AM

I've never seen a Daewoo with e-tec, but they make me laugh everytime I see one. :biggrin:
The old tiburon looked like it was trying way to hard to look sporty. (Thats why I like my s14, and s13's, smooth sporty lines without alot of showy curves.) I'll wait to pass judgement on the new one, but I don't think I'd ever buy a Korean car. This isn't a matter of priciple, I've just heard too may bad things about them. (Kinda like fords...)

"With America's best warranty!"
<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Disclaimer: You have to actually own, and drive this car to get the warranty.</span>

Archangel · 01-28-2002, 12:12 AM

Sorry, double post.  :confused:

(Edited by Archangel at 2:13 am on Jan. 28, 2002)

hybrid240 · 01-28-2002, 12:37 AM

i am not impressed

thewholefnshow · 01-28-2002, 08:34 AM

Anyone who think that Hyundai is second rate, has never been in one from the last 3 years. They are truly amazing. Especially for the price. They are quiet, more refined than most domestics, have loads of helpful and intelligent little options, and whats better still, they finally look good. My friends dad bough an elantra cause it was the cheapest thing out there, and all I gotta say is that that is one impressive little car. I sat in the new tiburon and looked around, and everything is top notch. With dodge have a claim staked in that company, and benz behind that, you know that there is good things on the horizon for them... As for daewoo.... they are some sad... sad vehicles lol. I have never sat in a seat so hard that isn't a bucket, if your window is open you could fly right out the window on a hard turn. But back to my point, if I weren't a die hard nissan fan, that would be a car to get serious thought.... Oh yah, the new Altima is holy shit great.

01-26-2002, 11:45 PM	#1
thewholefnshow Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 672 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just got back from the montreal car show... and daewoo made me laugh, they have on one engine in bold letters e-tec... a daewoo with vvt was enough to make me laugh on it's own, then I looked in the higher model and it was d-tec... maybe they are building up to a-tec or something??? Losers... no wonder they went bankrupt. Saw the matrix, the new tiburon and the ser.... those are some super nice cars for the money...

01-27-2002, 01:44 AM	#2
DragonReborn214 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SoCal Age: 44 Posts: 462 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wouldn't they be working their way down to, say, a-tec? Since the lower model is E, and the higher D? Although, I agree with you that it is completely lame! I mean, just give Honda/Acura the credit for coming up with the phrase (insert letter here)-tec. What about ford and their "zetec"

01-27-2002, 02:13 AM	#3
Grant Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: 聖地牙哥 Posts: 2,647 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Grant Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I thought ford uses Dura - tec now. lol

01-27-2002, 02:41 AM	#4
duderiffic Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bay Area (Sunnyvale) Age: 42 Posts: 464 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Did Hyundai match the snarling nastiness of their previous Tiburon?  That's a pretty tall order... those cars are so "ghetto ghetto I got a nice car look at me"  ugly piles!  I think it's funny to watch Hyundai rally those cars.  Kinda like how Huffy sponsers BMX, but um... buy their bike and....

01-27-2002, 08:39 AM	#5
thewholefnshow Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 672 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Honestly, that new tiburon is really nice, great seats, great feel, good look, 180hp in the v6.... they will be kicking our asses on the roads very soon sadley enough.

01-27-2002, 09:26 AM	#6
S13 Passion Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 267 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah, everyone keeps saying the new tiburons are nice.  i just cant be convinced..... can someone post some pics of it?

01-27-2002, 09:51 AM	#7
chickenmanq Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,000 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think it's ugly.  Dog doo ugly.  <img src=http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~mka/tiburon.jpg>

01-27-2002, 09:57 AM	#8
S13 Passion Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 267 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah, it looks pretty ugly.... i rarely see a difference from the old one anyway.

01-27-2002, 10:25 AM	#9
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 40 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	reminds me a bit of an older celica

01-27-2002, 10:29 AM	#10
ca18guy Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Clearwater FL Age: 41 Posts: 3,226 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ca18guy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thats the old Tiburon, this is the 2002 model with the V6, making a whooping 180 HP.

01-27-2002, 11:20 AM	#11
duderiffic Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bay Area (Sunnyvale) Age: 42 Posts: 464 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Everything with that squirely (H) will always looks ugly.  I guess it's  cool & all it can kick my ass until it gets recalled and it falls apart =P  .... Actually Hyundai's aren't too bad.... compared to Kia!! Kias are total balls of shit! J

01-27-2002, 12:44 PM	#12
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 43 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I thinkm the new Tiburon's a Phizzatt..  I like the new look a lot.. and the 180 ponies sounds nice.  I'm definately gonna have to go test drive one..  Too bad its still FF though

01-27-2002, 01:20 PM	#13
burgy240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tampa Age: 48 Posts: 2,151 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	the new tibby is nice.  And for all those that think it;s a cheap piece of sheeeit,  this is how honda and toyota started out in this country years ago.  Hyndai has the BEST warranty of any car in the states and they are starting to give style and low grade luxury for less than the competition.  I'm not saying these are great cars, just saying that every company has to get their foot in the door somehow.

01-27-2002, 01:45 PM	#14
duderiffic Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bay Area (Sunnyvale) Age: 42 Posts: 464 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Burgy,     Good point... but I think on something like a car you want good quality over good value.   Sure it's cool and all to get a brand new car with a 10 year warranty... Hey you ever seen Tommy Boy?  Anyways... Hyundai's have above average problems... and until they start making them a more quality vechile they probably always will... if they start making them nice... wait.. then the price goes up.  I'm not a good person to ask however, if two thingsss are the same price, I'd probably buy the more expensive one just to know I did. Hah

01-27-2002, 02:25 PM	#15
White240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 219 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from duderiffic on 11:20 am on Jan. 27, 2002 .... Actually Hyundai's aren't too bad.... compared to Kia!! Kias are total balls of shit!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Interesting considering Kia is a division of Hyundai Heavy Industries and they share the same part bin. :o:o

01-27-2002, 03:03 PM	#16
duderiffic Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bay Area (Sunnyvale) Age: 42 Posts: 464 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yea... kinda like Infiinti was rated #2 for quality (as far as things going wrong)  ... and Nissan was just one above average (around #16 or #17) That study was for 1997 models by JD Powers & Associates. J

01-27-2002, 05:46 PM	#17
gsrcamel Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 82 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah the side view of that car kicks major asp. I think they are finally getting good responce from the import market. But because it has that ugly "H" on it its reviews will be low. There is a girl at my school that has the new lexus and she was pulling in the school and another girl was like WOW what kinda car is that. and I said its a KIA, she was like yeah it looks cheap. I was like well accually its a 40K lexus but If I told you that you would not have said it looks cheap. People buy names as Icons to their own self riotousness thus being the reason I removed all emblems to my car.

01-27-2002, 07:20 PM	#18
duderiffic Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bay Area (Sunnyvale) Age: 42 Posts: 464 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yea... that new Kia luxury sedan is kinda funky looking, but it's allright... if it said Jaguar I'd probably like it.  But if it said  Jag it would probably break more than the Hyundai!! Hah

01-27-2002, 07:29 PM	#19
gh6o6 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my dad just bought a kia and its nice as ####! it got every accesory that my moms 3.2tl has with the only exceptions of power (170 hp) heated seats and auto dimming mirror (ill be installing one complete with compass and temp as soon as i buy it for his birthday) plus it has 100,000/10 yr bumper to bumper and lifetime drivetrain which is pretty good if you ask me the only thing i dont like it the fact that its a kia

01-27-2002, 08:17 PM	#20
Drifting Ricer Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Boston MA Posts: 608 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Man fu* the warranties you guys sound like a bunch of old geezers! When you're buying a "sporty car", you're buying it for performance. Maybe that's just me being young <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>. 180 HP v6 is not performance. Look at the SE-R V-spec 175HP I4. That thing better have lot of torque. Just another civic look a like to me.  I keep hearing 200HP neon I4 turbo what's that all about?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> Now that one will be the better choice.

01-27-2002, 08:28 PM	#21
S13Grl Married to the Mob Join Date: Dec 2000 Age: 43 Posts: 3,670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This thread is hillarious. Hyunday is simply the alternative for buying used cars. The sad truth is that sometimes, you're probably better off buying a used car. They're simply poor-quality, power-deprived automobiles. Yeah, they may offer accessories. Great. Sounds like women's market. Or rather, average women's market. let's go back to real cars now... please <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> ?

01-27-2002, 08:31 PM	#22
COUGAR Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 24 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the DURATEC has been around for quite a few years and the escort ZX2's have always had ZETEC's in em i think

01-27-2002, 09:41 PM	#23
White240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 219 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This is pretty funny, the Japanese car was a cheap alternative to the American car (which wasn't accepted right away), and now the Korean car is the cheap alternative to the Japanese car (which is slowly being accepted). Just think, your kids will all be running around in Kias and Hyundais with "KDM" parts and will BS about turbo plans and engine swaps...lol

01-27-2002, 09:53 PM	#24
Drifting Ricer Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Boston MA Posts: 608 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No say it ain't so  White240sx ! No I will feed my kids Japanese car to make sure they will like what I like!

01-28-2002, 12:08 AM	#25
duderiffic Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bay Area (Sunnyvale) Age: 42 Posts: 464 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	White240,     Man the future is here now!  I have a budy that just wont stop dumping money into a 92 Hyundai SCOUPE.  Man I don't even know how to stop him... and yes.. turbo's on the books. He's already spent probably 10k in body and paint.... YUK!

01-28-2002, 12:11 AM	#26
Archangel Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 425 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've never seen a Daewoo with e-tec, but they make me laugh everytime I see one. :biggrin: The old tiburon looked like it was trying way to hard to look sporty. (Thats why I like my s14, and s13's, smooth sporty lines without alot of showy curves.) I'll wait to pass judgement on the new one, but I don't think I'd ever buy a Korean car. This isn't a matter of priciple, I've just heard too may bad things about them. (Kinda like fords...) "With America's best warranty!" <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Disclaimer: You have to actually own, and drive this car to get the warranty.</span>

01-28-2002, 12:12 AM	#27
Archangel Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 425 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sorry, double post.  :confused: (Edited by Archangel at 2:13 am on Jan. 28, 2002)

01-28-2002, 12:37 AM	#28
hybrid240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: louisville, ky Posts: 79 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i am not impressed

01-28-2002, 08:34 AM	#29
thewholefnshow Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 672 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Anyone who think that Hyundai is second rate, has never been in one from the last 3 years. They are truly amazing. Especially for the price. They are quiet, more refined than most domestics, have loads of helpful and intelligent little options, and whats better still, they finally look good. My friends dad bough an elantra cause it was the cheapest thing out there, and all I gotta say is that that is one impressive little car. I sat in the new tiburon and looked around, and everything is top notch. With dodge have a claim staked in that company, and benz behind that, you know that there is good things on the horizon for them... As for daewoo.... they are some sad... sad vehicles lol. I have never sat in a seat so hard that isn't a bucket, if your window is open you could fly right out the window on a hard turn. But back to my point, if I weren't a die hard nissan fan, that would be a car to get serious thought.... Oh yah, the new Altima is holy shit great.