Blasphemodification

[zeek]

All Joking aside that last picture would be bad ass in a pickup or suburban. Just imagine a 12 second family suburban.

[Var]

Originally Posted by TokyoNights

Hey I was just sharing ideas with makoto thats all. Opinions too, its just the fuckin internet relax, dont get your panties in a bunch. You dont even know me and youre throwing around personal attacks, shit its not even your thread to shit on.
I can see it now budget pos v8 s13 turns into a money pit with stock suspension and brakes, carborated too movin up in the world.
done, have fun

1-the "ideas" you were sharing werent helpful. They werent constructive, but rather trying to dis the whole idea and to that i say FU.

2-no this isnt my thread but makoto and I coincidentally got interested in this at the same time. And after some convos on AIM, he made this thread.

3-you are confused i think...you said you wanted an "exotic" motor. That's the word you used right? ie: expensive and inefficient but rare. And hard/costly to fix, replace and tune. And at the same time you say that THIS project will be overbudget. ? And somehow, when i do this swap..the roll cage, coilovers, brakes that are already in my car will have magically dissappeared in an attempt to put a 3 thousand dollar engine in there. And at that point i will pull my sr out and then ship it out to the next fool that want to tinker with it and get my money back. Then i will cry because you didnt approve of it. Then i will cry again when i replace a camshaft for a couple hundred bucks and gain only 30hp from it. Then once again when i get my heads ported for a measly 50hp. Then i will be on the verge of suicide because my "dinasaur motor that everyone and their mother has" just isnt cutting it anymore.



"Just buy a fuckin mustang if you want a 5.0 so bad
but I guess crossbreeding is popular in texas
Homo errotic 2jz? haha have fun with your dinosaur pushrod"

"Who cares?
If I wanted to tow id have a diesel"

"KA-T
Cheaper, parts are everywere, no need to tune since the enthalpy ecu just came out, broad powerband, torque up the ass, hammer on it reliability, make 300hp on stock internals all day.
Simple.
what side are you guys on domestic "

cheaper? ya if you are dumb enough not to rebuild it for race use
parts are everywhere? ya for the LS1 and 302...get your heads ported at the supermarket while you wait in line at the deli.
torque up the ass? whetever makes you happy
hammer on it reliability? not compared to n/a v-8
300hp on stock internals all day? i want mine to last for more than a day.

"That lex v8 is big pimpin" (hypocryte? bosozoku?)sp?

"Yea real fuckin GHEY, dont get mad just because you cant afford it,, Im shure what you got is better anyway, right? haha

All this slobbering on a run of the mill dinosaur pushrod smallblock that everyone and their mom has. Id be looking for something more exotic for all that trouble."

"carborated too " hey whatever works right?

[TokyoNights]

3. was a hint for makoto to do that stuff first since his is all stock.

Its all gravy I was just burning time.
Have fun with the pig like I said

[Var]

ok thanks i will. btw nice sig. have a good one

[meatish]

omg the gayness of this thread has reached 11.

[TokyoNights]

DIAF

Originally Posted by westboroughpimp

ok thanks i will. btw nice sig. have a good one

nice edit.
no hard feelings homie, its all in good fun.

[MakotoS13]

Originally Posted by TokyoNights

I can see it now budget pos v8 s13

budget pos? i took a 15 year old beat to hell car and made it look almost new again. if that is somehow bastardizing your whole idea of what a car enthusiest is then perhaps you should reevaluate the goals set before you. maybe it would be in your best interest to speak less like a diehard import loving JDM nut ricer and more like a real gear head that just shoots for a goal and uses every means attainable to REACH said goal.

you, sir, are the blind lamb being lead by your ricer fetishes. afraid to think outside of your JDM stamped box and too closed minded to see the forrest for the trees.

turns into a money pit

are you smoking crack? of course its a money pit. what gain could i have from spending thousands of dollars on a 15 year old car?

with stock suspension and brakes

technically poly bushings under the whole car constitutes a suspension modification... but i'll let the brand new SPL coilovers drive the point home, k?

despite the overwhelming size of your mouth i can only guess that it must hurt to have both your feet in it.

how ever will you stand?

[TokyoNights]

-me being a ricer couldnt be further from the truth
-I was an auto tech. at a huge ford dealership and worked on/drove more ford v8s than you propably ever seen
-who gives a fuck anyway
-dont take this shit so seriously
-KTS/ I figured you would have posted pics like your italian leather shiftknob

[S14DB]

I'm not a ricer! Some of my best friends own domestics!

[MakotoS13]

Originally Posted by TokyoNights

-I was an auto tech. at a huge ford dealership and worked on/drove more ford v8s than you propably ever seen

yeah i've never seen that many fords. i speak from gross ignorance. i mean, other than the fact that my family owns several dealerships and my dad's side is fuggin ford fureakish.

[Var]

ok fellas, what's new on this? Doug..have you tried sourcing a motor? what are the prices looking like?

[TokyoNights]

might have a problem clearing the front sway bar

[Var]

yes every swap i've heard of needed a new oil pan. The guy who did the LS1 in the S14 said he used a 2005 Chevy Trailblazer sump pan. I'll be looking into this as well.

[AlligatorBling]

you know.... i was looking at my car today after work.... and g d it would be sexy with a v8 in it.... na mega hp and torque.... this is sort of a revival of the 240 and 280z v8 swap.... it will be done.... it will happen.... and there will be support for it. there will be dual exhaust out of the back of a fastback s13, and a 11 second 1/4 mile time slip to go with it.

[brainfood]

I know you have all pretty much dismissed the vh motor but does anyone have those pics from the earlier post on drifting.com the links to work anymore or even the guy who was doing the vh41de swaps info?
btw I think ls1 is a very good option for the v8 swap. I agree with reliablility I am looking for around 300whp but I want to beat on it all day long. Thats why I love my ka right now it has enough torque to be fun and I can beat on it for days.

[420sx]

302 will be cheap ever compared to damn RB swap.


now for the rest of the crowd,


id love to see a 302 in a 240. it does not, i repeat, NOT, belong into the mustangs. Domestic market has great engines, like 302 and lt1 for this kinda of swap; the market just doesnt have good cars. (besides a vet. obviuosly).

fuck your camaro, fuck your 5.0, fuck all your shit. pull the engine out and burn the slopy pig. put the engine into a 240. or better a miata.

thanks,
Im done now.

[crioten]

i want to keep this alive, since i missed it...

heres what im thinking about doing.

instead of an ls1, go for an older 350, no wiring would be its best benefit and you could put the money you saved into go fast parts as well

and possibly a tremec 5sp tranny to go with it or a cheap built auto tranny to go with it

check this out: http://www.lingenfelter.com/pack_ce_350.htm
for $2,000 thats a steal for something built like that, all its missing is a few goodies that really arent that expensive...

this whole project can be done as cheap as you can make it or expensive as hell, just like any other project

[MakotoS13]

the only downside to carb'd is the unpredictable nature of it (weather changes/humidity) AND the horrible gas mileage BUT it'd be fuggin cool as HELL havin a carb'd 240 rollin around town.

[crioten]

if you get one of those nice new carbs, it really shouldnt be a problem...

im really going to do this, but its going to take a while...

all i need to do is find a 350 to build hell, might even get a stroker kit for it

do you think i could just modify the support to hold the weight and new motormounts, or should i just make a custom piece w/ motormounts?

another thing, is there a weight difference between a ls1 and say a carbed 350?

[s14 blacktop]

heres some more info, dont know if its been covered though. some guy I sold my KA to, said the LT1 motor mounts are movable to where you can adjust the motor in the engine bay so that means you can move it to sit close to the firewall elimenating the balancing issue..

[MakotoS13]

if i was goin carb'd i'd totally have a 302. ford V8's reign supreme in my world.

[420sx]

fuck yea they do. my friend is geting his 302 build to match 600hp. crazy shit... and thats a daily driven mustang, he got lots suspension mods too. fuckin fassssst

[MakotoS13]

the ls1 project is getting a green light. when i make all the hardware i'll do my best to make duplicates of whatever and blueprints of the stuff in case anyone wants to do the Na thing too.

by the end of the summer official work begins.

[420sx]

fuck yea doug. do it biznach! you can do it! (rob shneider voice)

[HyperTek]

hopefully you guys would be sane enough to have a kick ass suspension/brakes to enjoy that v8... the swap would be pretty stupid like all those guys who put rbs and into stock ass cars...

[MakotoS13]

Originally Posted by HyperTek

hopefully you guys would be sane enough to have a kick ass suspension/brakes to enjoy that v8... the swap would be pretty stupid like all those guys who put rbs and into stock ass cars...

nah, im just gonna keep the car all stock.

open diff too.

[Var]

I have coilovers and solid subframe bushings plus other small pieces like rear upper controls arms, tie rods, tension rods, 2 way LSD. I got some 17x9 wheels ready for some stickies, right now only running 215's and 225's. The only thing i dont have is brakes cause mine is a drift car and the stock brakes with good pads work fine until you start doing some serious braking and overheating, which isnt happening so far. I would make it a priority even before i put the engine in if it was a road race car. I think Makoto will get his done before mine cause i dont have time to work on my car right now plus i dont wanna pull my engine halfway through the season and miss out on all the night drifting @ Altamont.

[Var]

Originally Posted by MakotoS13

nah, im just gonna keep the car all stock.

open diff too.

I dont get it. Was that supposed to be sarcasm? Cause there ARE peope like that just to let you know. And it's sad

[pruto]

to answer your question westborough. ls1 with tremec 6 speed usually runs around $4000. The engine alone is about $2500, if you want to source a cheaper tranny then you can get it for less, but i think that 6 speed is as much of an badass upgrade as the ls1 itself.

also, wiring is about $1000 at least for a painless setup (standard on ls1 hybrids). Then you have to add in custom exhaust, worrying about clearing the crossmember, possibly custom oilpan and crossmember, clearing front and rear sways (exhaust), fitment of 6 speed, location of shifter, engine mounts, whether you can keep power steering, heating issues.

Realistically, you're looking at about 10k with engine minimum if you don't have a) connections or b) mad skillz.

[theicecreamdan]

Well as soon as I get back from my roadtrip this summer I'm going to begin sourcing a 302 for my ae86, then into the fab shop it goes.