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240boost · 07-01-2010, 12:22 AM

Is this legal if the rules say the rear supports must attach to suspension pick up points? ie scca or formula d

also does anyone have any pics of an s&w cage in a s13, i want to see how it lays out.

Thanks for your help.

shiftdrift · 07-01-2010, 12:23 AM

formula d, i think it has to attach to the ACTUAL tower not onto a bar attached to the tower.

240boost · 07-01-2010, 12:27 AM

thats what i figured, just wanted to make sure bc this seems pretty easy.

D.Adams · 07-01-2010, 01:39 AM

This might help

Start on page 25 for the Roll Cage Specs

http://tennesseedrift.com/web/wp-con...1_0_091027.pdf

From my understanding all F/D cages need to be welded to the shock tower

240boost · 07-01-2010, 07:49 PM

Formula d never mentions shock towers in the mounting the rear braces it just says frame.

redsx13 · 10-01-2010, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240boost

Formula d never mentions shock towers in the mounting the rear braces it just says frame.

In a uni-body the shock towers are an extension of the frame

Giebs · 10-02-2010, 10:24 PM

a lot of cars actually failed tech inspection at formula d in long beach this year because the cages were built that way.

brainfood · 11-03-2010, 09:45 PM

Also mentions plates so that izzys cage isn't legal. Attaching it to tue strut towwe bar used to be legal but now the rules are followed to the word basically so it has to attach to the chassis. S13 shock tower is the easiest.

Corbic · 11-04-2010, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brainfood

Also mentions plates so that izzys cage isn't legal. Attaching it to tue strut towwe bar used to be legal but now the rules are followed to the word basically so it has to attach to the chassis. S13 shock tower is the easiest.

Yes, there is a lot of out rage on the constant ule changes and vagueness with FD.

No modified fire walls... Yet look at Faust's Scion. Safety specs in FD also don't seem to be in alignment with comparable racing series.

Jeezy240 · 11-04-2010, 09:58 AM

My cage was like the first one posted, it was not legal.

jklein122 · 11-17-2010, 02:40 PM

You could try heading to the event and asking one of the organizers, or if the organizers know somebody who could let you know for sure. Or maybe email them with a pic and ask them what they think.

Captain Dan · 11-17-2010, 02:59 PM

When I did my cage, I went to the floorboard about 2-3 inches up from the rear bumper support bolt brackets directly above the "frame rails". which is allowed by formulaD and XDC

pic:

HAWAII · 11-18-2010, 10:46 AM

of course, Faust's Scion is Legal, They are one of the big company sponsored team that pour big money to FD. How can they say it's illegal, unheard of!

brainfood · 11-18-2010, 02:23 PM

Fousts SCION is not legal. The rule changes were so close to the start of last season that cars already built got grandfathered in under the old rules and given a year to fix the problems. There are a couple of cars that wont be coming back next year because they arent legal under the new rules.

07-01-2010, 12:22 AM	#1
240boost Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: linden,nj Age: 32 Posts: 20 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is thks legal Is this legal if the rules say the rear supports must attach to suspension pick up points? ie scca or formula d also does anyone have any pics of an s&w cage in a s13, i want to see how it lays out. Thanks for your help.

07-01-2010, 01:39 AM	#4
D.Adams Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lake Havasu City Arizona Age: 40 Posts: 2,587 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	This might help Start on page 25 for the Roll Cage Specs http://tennesseedrift.com/web/wp-con...1_0_091027.pdf From my understanding all F/D cages need to be welded to the shock tower __________________ “About the time we think we can make ends meet, somebody moves the ends.” ―Herbert Hoover The build http://zilvia.net/f/builds-builds-on...u-city-az.html Owner of NVS Fabrications

11-03-2010, 09:45 PM	#8
brainfood Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Eagle Rock, CA Age: 41 Posts: 2,957 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Also mentions plates so that izzys cage isn't legal. Attaching it to tue strut towwe bar used to be legal but now the rules are followed to the word basically so it has to attach to the chassis. S13 shock tower is the easiest. __________________ Bryan Rogers http://www.seriousbadass.com

11-18-2010, 02:23 PM	#14
brainfood Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Eagle Rock, CA Age: 41 Posts: 2,957 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Fousts SCION is not legal. The rule changes were so close to the start of last season that cars already built got grandfathered in under the old rules and given a year to fix the problems. There are a couple of cars that wont be coming back next year because they arent legal under the new rules. __________________ Bryan Rogers http://www.seriousbadass.com

07-01-2010, 12:23 AM	#2
shiftdrift Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: indiana Age: 33 Posts: 2,242 Trader Rating: (42) Feedback Score: 42 reviews	formula d, i think it has to attach to the ACTUAL tower not onto a bar attached to the tower.

07-01-2010, 12:27 AM	#3
240boost Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: linden,nj Age: 32 Posts: 20 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thats what i figured, just wanted to make sure bc this seems pretty easy.

07-01-2010, 07:49 PM	#5
240boost Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: linden,nj Age: 32 Posts: 20 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Formula d never mentions shock towers in the mounting the rear braces it just says frame.

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Giebs Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: redondo Age: 38 Posts: 95 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	a lot of cars actually failed tech inspection at formula d in long beach this year because the cages were built that way.

11-04-2010, 09:58 AM	#10
Jeezy240 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Atlanta-->Ft Lauderdale Posts: 154 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	My cage was like the first one posted, it was not legal.

11-17-2010, 02:40 PM	#11
jklein122 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Cali Age: 38 Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You could try heading to the event and asking one of the organizers, or if the organizers know somebody who could let you know for sure. Or maybe email them with a pic and ask them what they think.

11-17-2010, 02:59 PM	#12
Captain Dan Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 59 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	When I did my cage, I went to the floorboard about 2-3 inches up from the rear bumper support bolt brackets directly above the "frame rails". which is allowed by formulaD and XDC pic:

11-18-2010, 10:46 AM	#13
HAWAII Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Burbank,Ca Age: 48 Posts: 716 Trader Rating: (24) Feedback Score: 24 reviews	of course, Faust's Scion is Legal, They are one of the big company sponsored team that pour big money to FD. How can they say it's illegal, unheard of!