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Old 05-26-2020, 10:13 AM   #271
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Recently purchased an R200 (oem s14?) diff for my car and will be running 350Z axles with it. I already have the output shaft adapters however my question comes to the bushings. Can I just purchase regular SPL s14 bushings or would I need to buy the 350z conversion bushings (example gktech conversion bushings).

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Doing more research I don't think that is the case. Since I am running a stock s14 diff still and purchased the output shaft adapters for the z33 axles which will fit onto the s14 diff, regular diff bushings will work...at least this is what I am being told.

If I was to run an actual z33 diff then I would need the conversion bushings also...
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Oh I didnt read you had the stubs, yes just normal bushings.

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Old 06-14-2020, 03:09 PM   #274
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S13 left - 23" compressed, 25" relaxed
S14 left - 23" compressed, 25" relaxed

S13 right - 25" compressed, 26-1/2" relaxed
S14 right - 25" compressed, 26-1/2" relaxed
So with this info, if I'm running an S14 subframe at a pretty close to stock ride height with the Maverick dual caliper plates (space the bearings off the uprights 8mm) I shouldn't need the spacers that get sandwiched between the axles and diff stubs? Because I am waiting on them to be back in stock but I'd also like to throw this rear end back together...
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You could get away with no spacers. Thats if ur at stock height and new/refub axles..old ones the boots tear when stretched
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You could get away with no spacers. Thats if ur at stock height and new/refub axles..old ones the boots tear when stretched
Cool, yeah the boots are in good shape and the subframe is setup so it's damn near stock ride height. The z33s are in the future but I just want to get this thing going without another fucking project within this project.

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so i've got the villains stubs, z33 axles, and 10mm gk tech axle spacers. i think 15mm spacers would actually be perfect, but the axel boot already slightly rubs the ruca (due to having pbm drop knuckles) and my guess is that extra 5mm would totally destroy them. anyone know of any rucas with more clearance than pbm?

if someone would just make some stub shafts that were 15mm longer that'd make things a whole lot more convenient...
Interesting - when I spoke to Villains Nate specifically noted that axle spacers would not be necessary with this application, did the drop knuckles change that? I noticed you first installed them in 2017 with a 4.3 and no issues, then put in spacers in 2019. How's the setup holding up so far?
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Interesting - when I spoke to Villains Nate specifically noted that axle spacers would not be necessary with this application, did the drop knuckles change that? I noticed you first installed them in 2017 with a 4.3 and no issues, then put in spacers in 2019. How's the setup holding up so far?
My car is pretty slammed and the drop knuckles push the knuckles further out, but don?t help the axle geometry at all, so not only are they at a shitty angle, they?re also over-extended. The 10mm was pretty much necessary for my setup. Since doing the 10mm spacers and changing out the axles I haven?t had any issue other than the axle nut at the hub coming loose regularly because I cans rock the cotter pin with the spacers.
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Would it be better to just have Villains make you a new set of stubs that are 10-15mm longer by the axle flange? Then you wouldn't need that spacer at the hub spline.
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Would it be better to just have Villains make you a new set of stubs that are 10-15mm longer by the axle flange? Then you wouldn't need that spacer at the hub spline.
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if someone would just make some stub shafts that were 15mm longer that'd make things a whole lot more convenient...
That's what this was supposed to mean, but I didn't articulate very well haha
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Would it be better to just have Villains make you a new set of stubs that are 10-15mm longer by the axle flange? Then you wouldn't need that spacer at the hub spline.
This was essentially why I asked. I'm on the driftworks geomaster rear knuckles and I love the correction on the arms but I'm worried about compatibility issues when running the villains stubs because these knuckles do push the hub out just a bit, like deolio described. I'd like to avoid using the spacers but that may be the way to go unless they'd like to extend the stub a bit, but I'm not sure if that's possible granted they probably have a jig for this - let's see what they say
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Weir stub axles seem maybe a little bit longer? Hard to tell as one has the oil seal trim thing. Double the price though.





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Just in case I missed it - a Z33 Dif is no stronger then the older S/R Diffs, correct? It's only the axles that are an improvement, correct?
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Just in case I missed it - a Z33 Dif is no stronger then the older S/R Diffs, correct? It's only the axles that are an improvement, correct?
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Z33/34 diff is an R230, so yes, it should be physically stronger. Unfortunately it's up in the air whether or not the output shafts are stronger, as there's not a lot of people making enough power to actually break them.

Z33 axles are definitely stronger and Z34 even more so as they're 30 (IIRC) spline at the hub side.

Technically the strongest Nissan diff you can put in your car is a Z32 TT diff (R230) which has 32 spline outputs, and then DSS will modify them with 300M shafts. Not really sure how you'd break that this side of a Formula D car...
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Z33/34 diff is an R230, so yes, it should be physically stronger. Unfortunately it's up in the air whether or not the output shafts are stronger, as there's not a lot of people making enough power to actually break them.

Z33 axles are definitely stronger and Z34 even more so as they're 30 (IIRC) spline at the hub side.

Technically the strongest Nissan diff you can put in your car is a Z32 TT diff (R230) which has 32 spline outputs, and then DSS will modify them with 300M shafts. Not really sure how you'd break that this side of a Formula D car...

Got it, thank you for clearing that up. I am already at the R200 early Q45 3.54 gearing using the z32TT hubs, one z32TT axle and one q45 axle. I?ve been told to change to a z33 but wanted to see the gains. The ratio is fine for me with the LS/T56 but I?m open to ideas. Especially with Z32TT axles being scarce and pricey. I have one spare ready to go I got here recently but once that one goes I?ll be concerned haha.
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Got it, thank you for clearing that up. I am already at the R200 early Q45 3.54 gearing using the z32TT hubs, one z32TT axle and one q45 axle. I?ve been told to change to a z33 but wanted to see the gains. The ratio is fine for me with the LS/T56 but I?m open to ideas. Especially with Z32TT axles being scarce and pricey. I have one spare ready to go I got here recently but once that one goes I?ll be concerned haha.
You should be able to directly swap to Z34 axles as far as I know.
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Mazworx has a Ford 8.8 swap kit.

https://www.mazworx.com/mazworx-240sx-8-8-irs-kit.aspx

At that point the aftermarket is unlimited in diff types and R&P ratios.
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I sent my stubs to get done up at Villians so my S13 KAAZ in my S14 with Z33 axles concoction works.
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Got it, thank you for clearing that up. I am already at the R200 early Q45 3.54 gearing using the z32TT hubs, one z32TT axle and one q45 axle. I?ve been told to change to a z33 but wanted to see the gains. The ratio is fine for me with the LS/T56 but I?m open to ideas. Especially with Z32TT axles being scarce and pricey. I have one spare ready to go I got here recently but once that one goes I?ll be concerned haha.
Rockauto sells a brand new Z32 TT axle for like $90

its made by a company called "Trakmotive" which makes new axles for a ton of different cars. I Used one in my swap and its got 30k on it.
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Rockauto sells a brand new Z32 TT axle for like $90

its made by a company called "Trakmotive" which makes new axles for a ton of different cars. I Used one in my swap and its got 30k on it.
That?s great actually, I always worry about reman stuff. Well what?s the benefit of that over the Z34 then? Is the oem Z34 still stronger?
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That?s great actually, I always worry about reman stuff. Well what?s the benefit of that over the Z34 then? Is the oem Z34 still stronger?
Z33 axle has the same outer hub splines as s13/s14.

Z34 axle has the same outer hub splines as z32TT, skyline GTR etc.

Typically if someone breaks a z33 axle setup it's at the outer hub spline which becomes the weak link. Or the stub axle breaks.
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Yea I understood that. I’m already on the Q45 Frankenstein swap but I was saying the oem axles people want a fortune. I’ve been skeptical on the aftermarket axles that aren’t from let’s say DSS or a driveline shop. If the Z32 TT axles are just as strong as oem Z34 then of course purchasing new has a nice ring to it.
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Z33 axle has the same outer hub splines as s13/s14.

Z34 axle has the same outer hub splines as z32TT, skyline GTR etc.

Typically if someone breaks a z33 axle setup it's at the outer hub spline which becomes the weak link. Or the stub axle breaks.
R32 GTST-4 same as a GTR?
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Are the z34 and gtr axles the same length, can the z34 be a direct replacement for the gtr axles ?
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Z33/34 diff is an R230, so yes, it should be physically stronger. Unfortunately it's up in the air whether or not the output shafts are stronger, as there's not a lot of people making enough power to actually break them.

Z33 axles are definitely stronger and Z34 even more so as they're 30 (IIRC) spline at the hub side.

Technically the strongest Nissan diff you can put in your car is a Z32 TT diff (R230) which has 32 spline outputs, and then DSS will modify them with 300M shafts. Not really sure how you'd break that this side of a Formula D car...
The Z33/Z34 is classified as an R200, not an R230. The pinion gear is larger, but it is still a 200mm ring/crown gear.
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It is the same.
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Alright guys I need some help. I currently have a s13 Silvia k's that I swapped in an open 240sx r200 with the 3x2 stubs.

I am looking to upgrade to a Nismo Gt pro LSD. I know that bnr32 come with r200's and they use the 6 bolt output shaft.

Does anyone know if I was to order the gtr version of this diff, if it would fit into the 240sx r200 housing and allow me to use 350z axles? Basically I really want to run this LSD while also upgrading the axles.

Or

Is anyone successfully running the villains stubs with a nismo gt pro LSD? If so then ill just order the correct LSD for my housing and toss the stubs that come with the nismo diff and use the villains stubs instead.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Have you called villains and tried to ask? They may know, but they also may not. Out of curiosity, why not run a kaaz or tomei which we know can be used with villains stubs?
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Alright guys I need some help. I currently have a s13 Silvia k's that I swapped in an open 240sx r200 with the 3x2 stubs.

I am looking to upgrade to a Nismo Gt pro LSD. I know that bnr32 come with r200's and they use the 6 bolt output shaft.

Does anyone know if I was to order the gtr version of this diff, if it would fit into the 240sx r200 housing and allow me to use 350z axles? Basically I really want to run this LSD while also upgrading the axles.

Or

Is anyone successfully running the villains stubs with a nismo gt pro LSD? If so then ill just order the correct LSD for my housing and toss the stubs that come with the nismo diff and use the villains stubs instead.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
If im reading this correctly, you have an OPEN diff R200 in your car and you want to use a Nismo LSD. I know that open diff shafts/stubs and LSD output shafts/stubs are different.

LSD output shafts are different lengths. LH side output shaft/tub is shorter than the RH side shaft/stub. I have my LSD output shafts/stubs that I sent it to Villains to have the flanges added, pictured with their lengths.

In order to use the 350Z axles, you'd use your LSD differential output shafts/stubs and have them modified to 6-bolt to mate to the 350Z axles. If you currently have the OPEN/Non-LSD output shafts, you will need to get the passenger LSD output shaft so that the 350Z axle + shaft/stub length are the same.

I hope that makes sense.

*Also, I recall Nismo LSD's provide output shafts, but find out in advance if that is still the case.

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