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Old 07-31-2006, 09:19 PM   #91
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the 4.6 is much larger then the 302... and the heads are also very wide.. do to the fact the 4.6L are shoc and dohc engines.....


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Mod motor would be way to wide.
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weight for a 302 with iron heads is around 460-480lbs + t-5 transmission is 85 lbs

so a 302 with tranny is 545-565 wich is lighter then a KA with auto tranny......
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Wow, I never realized how wide the 4.6 is.

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so a 302 with tranny is 545-565 wich is lighter then a KA with auto tranny
Does that include exhaust manifolds and all accessories? Cause I just don't see how a iron block & iron head v8 weighs less than a 4 cyl with aluminum head...
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Does that include exhaust manifolds and all accessories? Cause I just don't see how a iron block & iron head v8 weighs less than a 4 cyl with aluminum head...
ok i just did a lil more searching...... a 302 long block..... weight is 460 lbs....... so with all the accessories.... will be about the same weight as a KA... wich aint bad since it dose have iron heads stock...... just switch to aluminum heads, and u will save 50lbs and gain about 40hp.....
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Man the 03 cobra motor would be sick to put in a 240...

on another note i just placed my order with Hinson and will be getting all my install kit,cooling,tuned ECU, fuel system,exhaust and driveshaft...
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on another note i just placed my order with Hinson and will be getting all my install kit,cooling,tuned ECU, fuel system,exhaust and driveshaft...
Everything i need to get my LS1 into my coupe..
Keep us updated...I'm waiting till next summer to order all my stuff for my coupe.
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Man the 03 cobra motor would be sick to put in a 240...

on another note i just placed my order with Hinson and will be getting all my install kit,cooling,tuned ECU, fuel system,exhaust and driveshaft...
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what about tool requirements for the swap, would you need more tools because of fabrication needs and other differences then from say, an SR swap? Also, how much modifying and fabrication needs to be done if you buy the complete kit?
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Only fabrication is modifying your subframe. You could just go to the website and find out for yourself. www.hinsonsupercars.com
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Thanks barry.

If you dont have a welder and all that jazz you can just order a complete swap kit including the x member. If you do it that way it is easy. You dont even need to cut the chassis like a sr swap. Just throw it in, and you can light em up at 120mph.
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Thanks barry.

If you dont have a welder and all that jazz you can just order a complete swap kit including the x member. If you do it that way it is easy. You dont even need to cut the chassis like a sr swap. Just throw it in, and you can light em up at 120mph.
man...I wish. So the most expensive thing is the engine themselves? (assuming lsx)

Looks to be a $6k-7k swap total.
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You gota pay to play man.

You can have a 300 whp sr that needs frequent maintence, rebuilds, blown turbos, etc.

Or you could pay double and have a 350hp 350 tq motor that is smog legal and all it needs is an oil change here and there.



















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You gota pay to play man.

You can have a 300 whp sr that needs frequent maintence, rebuilds, blown turbos, etc.

Or you could pay double and have a 350hp 350 tq motor that is smog legal and all it needs is an oil change here and there.

And it gets you laid.
LOOOL Yeah, Im not knocking it at all. Hell, if I had the extra cash, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

It's just fucking impossible to do (in my situation) without a real full-time job. Im starting a temp full-time job (co-op).

I can't imagine what'd it feel like to have a NA monster and dont even had to mod it at all.
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can this swap really be done for 6-7k? i thought it would be closer to 10-11k for the whole thing....i guess it depends on engine cost and whether or not you buy the kits.
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It really depends on the engine you use and where you get it from. You can dig an LS1 out of a junkyard and hope it was well treated before and only pay $3000 or so. You can also go the crate engine route, which is much more expensive but reliability is awesome. Personally I have found a LS2 crate engine that makes 510hp and 480ft. lbs at the crank. It also costs $10,000 and it's brand spankin new. I've got alot of saving to do if I want to go that route.
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How about this. Using all Hinson parts, how much will it cost to get everything you need, excluding the engine and transmission?
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for the 5.0 swap, dosent the mustang use a cable instead of a hydrolic system for the clutch. How would that work? Im not positive but I beleive the z31 uses the same tranny as the 5.0 but it may be hydrolic. Who is producing the 5.0 swap kit, hinson supercars? or was it another company? And when is the expected release date?
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for the 5.0 swap, dosent the mustang use a cable instead of a hydrolic system for the clutch. How would that work?
same question!

Not sure if I am remembering correctly.. but didn't the turbo thunderbird's use a t-5 but with a hydro clutch? If that part is true, can you use the bell housing off the t-bird and put it on the t-5 from the mustang? OR just use the t-5 from the t-bird altogether?
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How about this. Using all Hinson parts, how much will it cost to get everything you need, excluding the engine and transmission?
Did you even bother to check out www.hinsonsupercars.com to check the prices out?
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What would be the advantages of using a 5.0L sbf instead of the 5.7L sbc?

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-driveablility, fuel injected, all alluminum (light weight), tunability, responds well to mods, 350hp/350tq stock, paired with a 6 speed manual tranny. There are probably some points missing, but the cost of engine and tranny is the downfall. (This is all my opinion...)

I believe anything worth doing is worth doing right and from the research I have done, my choice is the LSx. The cost I have worked out is about $6000 with the Hinson goods, and doing the work myself...So including the price of my car thats $7000 spent, but there is still suspension and a lot of other things that add up.
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What would be the advantages of using a 5.0L sbf instead of the 5.7L sbc?
initial cost.
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Did you even bother to check out www.hinsonsupercars.com to check the prices out?
Don't be an ass. Yes I checked them out, but I bet there is more involved that just what is listed.

A mod should delete my question and your useless comment, so that this thread doesn't get cluttered.
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Check out the F.A.Q. section on www.hinsonsupercars.com They cover all the Frequently Asked Questions, imagine that.

Why should I delete your questions? Hopefully it will help other people to not ask the same questions and follow the links provided first.
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Check out the F.A.Q. section on www.hinsonsupercars.com They cover all the Frequently Asked Questions, imagine that.

Why should I delete your questions? Hopefully it will help other people to not ask the same questions and follow the links provided first.
Good job on not replying with flames and/or immature shit.

ThatGuy, what would YOU do as far as chassis stiffening? (Sorry if this was covered prior to this post, I don't remember reading it)
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I'm planning on running a custom cage. I'll decide after that's in, what other chassis bracing I feel the car needs. I've almost got the suspension where I'd like it. No sense in dropping in all that power if the car still handles like stock.
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so what about the release of the 5.0 swap kit
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