secession:

[fyneyoungstunna]

Well, No one wants to talk about this. It seems the mere mention sends people into panic and severely distorts their ability to have a civilized rational discussion about it.
Personally I say its like an abusive relationship, or a relationship at all for that matter: if the person wants out...let them the fuck out. Why try to kidnap someone and make them unhappy.
Everyone seems to think that it will automatically cause anarchy and social collapse of EVERYTHING. I say it will bring about new ideals, good or bad. New markets, new ways of thinking etc. I think most people are tired of the old money prudes that have been in power way too long. Their way of thinking is rapidly, if not already, becoming an archaic way of thinking.

Discuss

[fyneyoungstunna]

How do I edit the tittle. Its supposed to say Succession/Succeeding

[KA24DESOneThree]

Lincoln himself said, "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it."

I think secession isn't the right way to go about it, and it will never happen.

Nothing will ever happen to get the American people off their lazy asses and actually caring about freedom. We gave up freedom for convenience back in the early part of the 20th century and nothing will turn us back.

[jesse_s13]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Lincoln himself said, "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it."

I think secession isn't the right way to go about it, and it will never happen.

Nothing will ever happen to get the American people off their lazy asses and actually caring about freedom. We gave up freedom for convenience back in the early part of the 20th century and nothing will turn us back.

Exactly what you said.
People don't care these days.

I don't see it happening.

[word sux]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Lincoln himself said, "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it."

I think secession isn't the right way to go about it, and it will never happen.

Nothing will ever happen to get the American people off their lazy asses and actually caring about freedom. We gave up freedom for convenience back in the early part of the 20th century and nothing will turn us back.

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[Phlip]

Originally Posted by fyneyoungstunna

How do I edit the tittle. Its supposed to say Succession/Succeeding

But that's not how you spell it either

Anyway, a satirical response floating around Facebook right now:



As a resident of one of the states with a petition up, I HIGHLY doubt many people with good reason to have thought this through are behind this.

[LEG1T]

This wont happen.

This should not happen.

This is a bad idea.

[slw240sx]

didnt the right criticize the left for talking about to moving to Canada if McCain was elected or bush for that matter? yet when the left wins the office they cry succession. It really shows the lack of intelligence and maturity in some of the people in our country. Its like a kid getting mad and taking his ball and going home when he loses a game. Suck it up and try again in 4 years, quite making everyone in the party look like hicks.

[Corbic]

Keep talking of revolt and Obama will kill your ass with a Predator drone.

U.S. Can Kill American Citizens Without Trial: Eric Holder

[ineedone]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Keep talking of revolt and Obama will kill your ass with a Predator drone.

U.S. Can Kill American Citizens Without Trial: Eric Holder

Because Anwar Al-Awlaki is just a regular good-ole American citizen hanging out in his man cave with his bros... you clueless idiot. Here is a tip, do not create terrorist propaganda, do not hang out with your terrorist buddies in Yemen, and definitely do not threaten to teach terrorist and plan terrorist attacks. If you can somehow muster up enough brain power to figure those 3-4 things out, hellfire will not be brought down on you in anytown USA. Further, due process does not always mean judicial process. So if you want to play the terror game - you gets very little process and very lots of drones.

[ineedone]

Oh, and secession is about as real as a rainbow colored unicorn. Congrats to the other idiots who signed these petitions on a government website and database. Hope none of you ever want a job that requires any type of clearance!

Lets get back to the real issues - like why has the socialist government taken down the most important petition ever! WHY CAN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NOT PUNCH GROVER NORQUIST SQUARE IN THE NUTS!!!

I demand answers...

Petition To Punch Grover Norquist In Dick Removed From White House Petition Site

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by ineedone

Because Anwar Al-Awlaki is just a regular good-ole American citizen hanging out in his man cave with his bros... you clueless idiot. Here is a tip, do not create terrorist propaganda, do not hang out with your terrorist buddies in Yemen, and definitely do not threaten to teach terrorist and plan terrorist attacks. If you can somehow muster up enough brain power to figure those 3-4 things out, hellfire will not be brought down on you in anytown USA. Further, due process does not always mean judicial process. So if you want to play the terror game - you gets very little process and very lots of drones.

I owe you a beer when I come up to MD next.

[Daniel.]

ineedone, you are my hero.

[lewisfk]

I'm from Texas and the state votes on this shit all the time. You always hear about this shit when a Democrat is in office. In the past 10 years Texas has not even balanced its own budget without slashing school budgets, laying off state employees, or taking stimulus money and lying about it. There is a big segment of the state that believes if it's not white, it's not right. Can you imagine that quarter of the state its illegal to have alcohol. The religious right has control of the state and anyone who threatens their control,is considered not American. They did the same thing with President Clinton. Whats said is the attack ads on Anne Richard are second female governor, some ads basically said she didn't know her place. Can you imagine the ads ran against any one of color. NOT ALL STATES, share such a radical agenda as Texas. As an active duty military member, I'm frustrated with the federal government. From the lack of raising revenue which pays my salary and buys the equipment needed to rage war, to the lack of infrastructure throughout this country. Does this mean I need to sign a petition to succeed, HELL NO!

KU KLUX KLAN | The Handbook of Texas Online| Texas State Historical Association (TSHA)
TABC Wet and Dry Counties

[VROOOM]

if Texas did secede, im betting it would be a narco state in a few years. the Cartels would just take over.

[lewisfk]

^^ We have to many vets and milita memebers. It would be a slaughter, we are 10k plus strong. Here is one of our state's larger groups!

Texas Constitutional Militia

[VROOOM]

Originally Posted by lewisfk

^^ We have to many vets and milita memebers. It would be a slaughter, we are 10k plus strong. Here is one of our state's larger groups!

Texas Constitutional Militia

sure you have militia and vets, but have those people killed 50k people in the last 6 years? the cartels have. have these militia men chopped off peoples heads on TV? i doubt it. these people have done and will continue to do stuff most of the militia and vets have never ev en thought about doing. sure you may have willing people and guns but the cartels have much more experience and just as many guns and people.

[lewisfk]

^^True, but women children and Un organized individuals. Texas militia is better equipped than some small armies around the world.

[nismostormtrooper]

Texas will turn Blue (Democratic) before it secedes. The Latino vote will only get stronger there and then the Republicans will be really screwed considering Dems have Cali, NY and at some point, Texas.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by ineedone

Because Anwar Al-Awlaki is just a regular good-ole American citizen hanging out in his man cave with his bros... you clueless idiot.

....because James Eagan Holmes is just a poor troubled young man who fell in a bad crowd.. we got him dead to rights, why not just put a bullet in his sick fucking ass and call it a day?

Oh, that right, we live by a set of rules and laws.

What about Abdulrahman al-Aulaqi, Awlaki's son, who was killed in a separate strike two weeks latter, he was only 16 years old. You realize there has been no one executed in America under the age of 23 since 1950 and only 22 people since then have been sentenced to death for crimes committed under the age of 18. Only one of them was 16 years old at the time and had 12 years of appeals.

So yes, these are bad people... they say and do bad things. But they still are American citizens who where killed exclusively by the will of the president. Since when did we throw away the moratorium on banning assassinations? Why not just kill Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?

[cgtdream]

Originally Posted by VROOOM

if Texas did secede, im betting it would be a narco state in a few years. the Cartels would just take over.

Oh lawd...A thread about "succession", in regards to a few tards who are butt-hurt that a black president has been elected, again, by their peers in this society we live in.....

Lol, i say let these few people in these "sussion" states decide the fate of their fellow statesmen, and leave our fine union. Wouldn't be a matter of time before they realize the grave mistake made and more than likely either burn, or somehow rejoin the union under worse than comfortable circumstances....

But my true opinion. How sick and twisted are some people. In the most simplest regards, it truly is a bunch of butt-hurt folks crying that obama is president, so much so, that they think they should decide the fate of everyone in their state with some lame ass petition.

Shame on them...Im assuming when i say this, but they try so hard to cry about something, when what they should be doing, is initiating change at the levels change can happen at....even if its something i dis-agree with personally, i would (esp if i was a member of said state) respect a person more for truly following their goal/passion/desire with utmost and strategic urgency, than some hick ass fool complaining that the president is black...and their lambo is blue..

And on the quoted posters comments...I agree. They are already borderline mexico. Without the US government support, texas would fall within a year to drug cartels....

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by cgtdream

in regards to a few tards who are butt-hurt that a black president has been elected, again, .

Yup it's all cuz he's black.

Fucking idiot.

[Daniel.]

I'm going to start a petition to mother nature asking her to have an earthquake large enough for California to break off from the rest of the United States of America, effectively "susseeding" us from the union.

Drone strike us all you like, we'll deflect all of them with socialism and free health care.

[cgtdream]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Yup it's all cuz he's black.

Fucking idiot.

oh come the "f" on.....You know, if you ask half the tards who say "we dont want obama in the whitehouse" their is one side that will spout some Fox News BS, and another that will have no reason but seem to try and stutter "obamacare".....Its retarded...And you know it. Its almost as if they want to just sit back and say...Its because he is a black man....Look at all the states that voted against him...Mostly in the south....You cant tell me, that most of the tards that want "sussion" aren't generally concerned, not with the affiliation of our president to one thing or another, but more so, his skin tone..

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by cgtdream

oh come the "f" on....

Just like if you asked half the fuck tards why they want him they'll spout off some MSNBC bullshit garbage about Hope, change and Bush's fault. The other half only wanted him because he's black, well spoken and the Internet makes cool memes of him.

[xoxide]

On the subject of Obama and succession, does anyone else find the fucktards that say "oh im moving to Canada" or "im moving to England/austalia, etc." as funny as I do?

Lets move to a country that already has free healthcare, because we're running from free healthcare...

[cgtdream]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Just like if you asked half the fuck tards why they want him they'll spout off some MSNBC bullshit garbage about Hope, change and Bush's fault. The other half only wanted him because he's black, well spoken and the Internet makes cool memes of him.

Well this is a good point....

[Phlip]

Can anyone on Zilvia properly spell "secede" or "secession" as it relates to this topic?
Just because spellcheck doesn't light your word on fire doesn't mean that you've selected the proper word.
Wise quotes and philosophies are only applicable when you spell things correctly, and make use of proper grammar. This will remain key to your being taken seriously, and "well this is the internet and not an English class" goes out the window when you approach a subject like this one.

Originally Posted by xoxide

On the subject of Obama and succession, does anyone else find the fucktards that say "oh im moving to Canada" or "im moving to England/austalia, etc." as funny as I do?

You mean the idiots who have no useful education or discernible skills, know no other languages and lack pretty much ANYTHING that would grant them the ability to move to another country?
Yes, those types are HILARIOUS!

The power of being white and angry only works in America, and the fact that Mitt Romney is only dropping in to continue to be a sore loser with stupid-fuck quotes to ignore that he was his own biggest problem shows us why.

[Matej]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Lincoln himself said, "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it."

Remember how Lincoln stood by those words when the South attempted to secede?

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Phlip

Can anyone on Zilvia properly spell "secede" or "secession" as it relates to this topic?

Phlip, why are you asking rhetorical questions?

It's moar fun to pretend to be ignorant on the internet, than actually use your brain and type something thoughtful here.