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lechu84 · 03-07-2010, 07:51 PM

finished!

helladudebro · 03-11-2010, 11:08 PM

Is there any disadvantages to having the rear braces angled outward like \ / like the car above instead of / \ or | | ?

lechu84 · 03-12-2010, 12:57 AM

^i dont see why there would. we welded it where the hoop curves to add support.

Firestorm · 03-12-2010, 10:03 AM

very nice...how did you get the dashboard to fit with so little trimming? we're installing a cage in a buddys car tomorrow and i was thinking about how to install the dashboard without cutting the shit out of it...

Maiku240sxS14 · 03-12-2010, 01:16 PM

lechu84 = carlos? friends with david & sennet?

Nicely done. Also want to see how you got the dash in nicely.

Firestorm...I don't know if your going to put in a dash bar, but the fabricators that did my cage slipped the tube in the top vent down to the floor. They did absolutely on cutting or trimming on the dash. The only drawback to this is you will NOT be able to remove the dash again, unless you cut/trim it yourself. Which I had to, but I had the front window out, so I just cut straight throw so that I can pull the dash out horizontally.

I don't know if that made any sense...lol

RurouniMidnight · 03-20-2010, 02:09 PM

Heres the cage in my S14, we just finished it up last night. It was done by my good buddy Derrick and fully tigged, now its time to paint the interior.

Unknown007 · 03-21-2010, 02:20 AM

Metallic Purple.

Freddy · 03-21-2010, 08:42 AM

is that a autopower roll bar ?

teamsprock · 03-26-2010, 10:46 AM

Thanks for the comments on my cage, I appreciate the concern. I did not weld this, If I did there would be lots of reason for concern since I suck at welding. I had it inspected by the local NHRA inspector and he went through a pretty thorough inspection and said it looked great. Most of the professional welders who have seen it in real life have also said the same. The color looks much worse because I was taking pictures in my garage with long exposures and cheap flood lights. But I appreciate your concern and will look more into it. I have had a few of the really well known welders on here tell me it looked great so I was pretty happy but if I should be concerned I will have more people inspect it and see if I need something done to correct it. Before the door bars were finished it was certified to go 8.50's. The door bars are just being finished as this obviously is not a drag car. Again thanks for the concern and I will have a close friend who has been welding for 30+ years stop by and look at it and see what he thinks.

RurouniMidnight · 04-07-2010, 03:56 PM

after paint....

abubika345 · 04-07-2010, 09:36 PM

It's not fd legal either because the rear bars Have to be to the strut tower not the strut tower bar

atutt · 04-07-2010, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teamsprock

Thanks for the comments on my cage, I appreciate the concern. I did not weld this, If I did there would be lots of reason for concern since I suck at welding. I had it inspected by the local NHRA inspector and he went through a pretty thorough inspection and said it looked great.

that doesn't mean he can identify a proper structural weld.

Most of the professional welders who have seen it in real life have also said the same. The color looks much worse because I was taking pictures in my garage with long exposures and cheap flood lights.

The colours of the welds are bad.. Its the red "dust" coming off a fwe of them. this indicates it's either contaminated. Or the torch was pulled away quickly while an arc was still present.

But I appreciate your concern and will look more into it. I have had a few of the really well known welders on here tell me it looked great so I was pretty happy but if I should be concerned I will have more people inspect it and see if I need something done to correct it. Before the door bars were finished it was certified to go 8.50's. The door bars are just being finished as this obviously is not a drag car. Again thanks for the concern and I will have a close friend who has been welding for 30+ years stop by and look at it and see what he thinks.

Just because he's been a welder for 30+ years doesn't mean he's good either... I've seen people with 30 years welding experience and fail simple weld tests. I have even tested people with more welding experience than twice my age. And I failed them...

Again. I'm not trying to come off as a dick. I'm offering my opinion as a professional certified TIG welder. And by the standards that I set for myself.
(Also going back to school to start my weld inspector training this Nov)

7.4.2 of this years FD rule book. (I believe this also covers D1 or whatever?) I know we use these rules for DMCC (Drift Mania Canadian Championship)

Welding shall conform to American Welding Society D1.1:2002, Structural
Welding Code, Steel Chapter 10, Tubular Structures.

Based on those standards I would reconsider those welds.

Again. This is just my opinion. And I'm NOT trying to come off as an arrogant asshole. Just trying to state my thoughts in a friendly professional manner, lol :P

Edwin562 · 09-25-2010, 12:47 PM

those are some sexy cages..

Odysseus · 11-28-2010, 02:03 AM

I see alot of cages with the harness bar going straight across the main hoop like this...

And I also see cages with the harness bar curved back behind the main hoop like this...

What is the reasoning for this? Pros/cons?

Also, typically how far up on the main hoop do the harness bars sit? I know it has to do with the angle of the harnesses but that changes with different seats/rails and rail positions doesnt it? So just generally...

7evil · 11-28-2010, 08:01 AM

Great cage RurouniMidnight, looks sick!

ericcastro · 11-28-2010, 11:50 AM

my cage.

was cut out of a old Formula D car from back in the day is what i was told.
had it welded into the new stitch welded shell.
boxed the bottom of the front to make it fit snugly.
gotta open the doors a touch to roll the windows up, lol.

thefro526 · 11-28-2010, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odysseus

I see alot of cages with the harness bar going straight across the main hoop like this...

....

And I also see cages with the harness bar curved back behind the main hoop like this...

....

What is the reasoning for this? Pros/cons?

Also, typically how far up on the main hoop do the harness bars sit? I know it has to do with the angle of the harnesses but that changes with different seats/rails and rail positions doesnt it? So just generally...

The main reasoning behind the curved harness bar seems to be to allow taller drivers more room to put the seat back. I've been in a lot of caged cars with normal harness bars that aren't curved and they usually make it so that you can't slide the seat back the last inch or so or you can't recline the seat that much.

Odysseus · 11-30-2010, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefro526

The main reasoning behind the curved harness bar seems to be to allow taller drivers more room to put the seat back. I've been in a lot of caged cars with normal harness bars that aren't curved and they usually make it so that you can't slide the seat back the last inch or so or you can't recline the seat that much.

Thank you! Thats what I figured. Im like 5'8" and drive close to the steering wheel like an 80 year old Asian woman so Ill be cool with it going straight across.

Anyone know about harness bar height?

Martino · 11-30-2010, 12:02 PM

Anybody have experience with the height for door bars?
What's the lowest that the highest point (where it meets the main hoop) is aloud to be?

Backintoans13 · 08-10-2011, 05:12 PM

Buddy just finished mine, will get sprayed within this month hopefully

conrad_s13.5 · 08-11-2011, 09:56 AM

holy redundancy!...lol

dope!

Flicktitty · 08-11-2011, 10:12 AM

Some pics of my cage, I had Ron @ Clocksoffracing.com build it. Told him make it meet specs to run a 10.00 in the 1/4 mile without getting booted.

Cage turned out GREAT, door bars are a little high, and the harness bar is a little close but hey thats fine.

rik boellen · 08-13-2011, 09:21 AM

just a way to show..

mine did bij Biesheuvel Autosport

hope i don't need it..

conrad_s13.5 · 08-15-2011, 10:48 AM

^amazing!!!!!!

cdlong · 08-15-2011, 02:15 PM

All that an no harness bar?

living4surf · 02-21-2012, 07:32 PM

!Zar! · 02-22-2012, 05:40 PM

Needs more chamfering & gussets!

godrifttoday · 02-23-2012, 02:13 AM

bolt on!! with welded flore plates

blessedhellrider · 02-23-2012, 02:32 AM

lol cages ,iv never seen a s chassis on its roof lol

drifted240sx · 02-23-2012, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blessedhellrider

lol cages ,iv never seen a s chassis on its roof lol

S13 Flips at Hot Import Nights Nightshift Phoenix - YouTube

Plus, its not always about flipping over, could be getting hit from the side. And it makes the chassis stiffer.

03-20-2010, 02:09 PM	#156
RurouniMidnight Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston TX Age: 41 Posts: 1,245 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Heres the cage in my S14, we just finished it up last night. It was done by my good buddy Derrick and fully tigged, now its time to paint the interior. __________________ http://nightparade.wordpress.com/ Join in on instagram @nightparade Last edited by RurouniMidnight; 03-22-2010 at 11:43 AM..

04-07-2010, 03:56 PM	#160
RurouniMidnight Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston TX Age: 41 Posts: 1,245 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	after paint.... __________________ http://nightparade.wordpress.com/ Join in on instagram @nightparade

11-28-2010, 08:01 AM	#165
7evil Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,505 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Great cage RurouniMidnight, looks sick! __________________ 七転び八起き

11-30-2010, 12:02 PM	#169
Martino Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,000 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Anybody have experience with the height for door bars? What's the lowest that the highest point (where it meets the main hoop) is aloud to be? __________________ IG: @vsMARTINO

08-11-2011, 09:56 AM	#171
conrad_s13.5 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: STL Age: 36 Posts: 1,533 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	holy redundancy!...lol dope! __________________ cONtRol FReAkS

03-07-2010, 07:51 PM	#151
lechu84 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2007 Location: SoCaL 818 Age: 39 Posts: 549 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	finished!

03-11-2010, 11:08 PM	#152
helladudebro Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: portland Posts: 21 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is there any disadvantages to having the rear braces angled outward like \ / like the car above instead of / \ or \| \| ?

03-12-2010, 12:57 AM	#153
lechu84 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2007 Location: SoCaL 818 Age: 39 Posts: 549 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	^i dont see why there would. we welded it where the hoop curves to add support.

03-12-2010, 10:03 AM	#154
Firestorm Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Age: 37 Posts: 371 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	very nice...how did you get the dashboard to fit with so little trimming? we're installing a cage in a buddys car tomorrow and i was thinking about how to install the dashboard without cutting the shit out of it...

03-12-2010, 01:16 PM	#155
Maiku240sxS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LA Posts: 2,019 Trader Rating: (37) Feedback Score: 37 reviews	lechu84 = carlos? friends with david & sennet? Nicely done. Also want to see how you got the dash in nicely. Firestorm...I don't know if your going to put in a dash bar, but the fabricators that did my cage slipped the tube in the top vent down to the floor. They did absolutely on cutting or trimming on the dash. The only drawback to this is you will NOT be able to remove the dash again, unless you cut/trim it yourself. Which I had to, but I had the front window out, so I just cut straight throw so that I can pull the dash out horizontally. I don't know if that made any sense...lol

03-21-2010, 02:20 AM	#157
Unknown007 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bay Area Posts: 224 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Metallic Purple.

03-21-2010, 08:42 AM	#158
Freddy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ottawa, Canada Age: 34 Posts: 568 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	is that a autopower roll bar ?

03-26-2010, 10:46 AM	#159
teamsprock Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Billings Age: 41 Posts: 636 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Thanks for the comments on my cage, I appreciate the concern. I did not weld this, If I did there would be lots of reason for concern since I suck at welding. I had it inspected by the local NHRA inspector and he went through a pretty thorough inspection and said it looked great. Most of the professional welders who have seen it in real life have also said the same. The color looks much worse because I was taking pictures in my garage with long exposures and cheap flood lights. But I appreciate your concern and will look more into it. I have had a few of the really well known welders on here tell me it looked great so I was pretty happy but if I should be concerned I will have more people inspect it and see if I need something done to correct it. Before the door bars were finished it was certified to go 8.50's. The door bars are just being finished as this obviously is not a drag car. Again thanks for the concern and I will have a close friend who has been welding for 30+ years stop by and look at it and see what he thinks.

04-07-2010, 09:36 PM	#161
abubika345 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Downingtown Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's not fd legal either because the rear bars Have to be to the strut tower not the strut tower bar

09-25-2010, 12:47 PM	#163
Edwin562 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Whittier (562) Age: 34 Posts: 4,721 Trader Rating: (35) Feedback Score: 35 reviews	those are some sexy cages..

11-28-2010, 02:03 AM	#164
Odysseus Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: S14 Posts: 640 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I see alot of cages with the harness bar going straight across the main hoop like this... And I also see cages with the harness bar curved back behind the main hoop like this... What is the reasoning for this? Pros/cons? Also, typically how far up on the main hoop do the harness bars sit? I know it has to do with the angle of the harnesses but that changes with different seats/rails and rail positions doesnt it? So just generally...

08-10-2011, 05:12 PM	#170
Backintoans13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Las Cruces, NM Age: 41 Posts: 620 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Buddy just finished mine, will get sprayed within this month hopefully

08-11-2011, 10:12 AM	#172
Flicktitty Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 37 Posts: 3,685 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Some pics of my cage, I had Ron @ Clocksoffracing.com build it. Told him make it meet specs to run a 10.00 in the 1/4 mile without getting booted. Cage turned out GREAT, door bars are a little high, and the harness bar is a little close but hey thats fine. __________________ 2JZ-GTE Swapped S13 Coupe - 1994 Supra Turbo

08-13-2011, 09:21 AM	#173
rik boellen Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: the netherlands Age: 43 Posts: 115 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	just a way to show.. mine did bij Biesheuvel Autosport hope i don't need it..

08-15-2011, 10:48 AM	#174
conrad_s13.5 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: STL Age: 36 Posts: 1,533 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	^amazing!!!!!! __________________ cONtRol FReAkS

08-15-2011, 02:15 PM	#175
cdlong Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Age: 43 Posts: 1,864 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: cdlong Feedback Score: 0 reviews	All that an no harness bar? __________________

02-21-2012, 07:32 PM	#176
living4surf Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: jupiter Age: 38 Posts: 1,701 Trader Rating: (52) Feedback Score: 52 reviews

02-22-2012, 05:40 PM	#177
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Needs more chamfering & gussets! __________________

02-23-2012, 02:13 AM	#178
godrifttoday Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: los angeles Age: 40 Posts: 3,120 Trader Rating: (82) Feedback Score: 82 reviews	bolt on!! with welded flore plates __________________ NEED Bolt kits for your car?

02-23-2012, 02:32 AM	#179
blessedhellrider Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: tampaish Age: 42 Posts: 277 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lol cages ,iv never seen a s chassis on its roof lol