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Old 01-09-2018, 02:57 PM   #10981
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I have three kids now I have to buy a bigger vehicle hmmm SUV or CUV is main option being pushed in my face.
If you have 3 car seats or booster seats (which is law now) you have NO choice but to have a three row CUV. That’s why I’ve had one now for 4 years.
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If you have 3 car seats or booster seats (which is law now) you have NO choice but to have a three row CUV. That’s why I’ve had one now for 4 years.
Oh I get it Mel. It go's right back too American car makers not reviving the station wagon instead killing it with CUV's. It cost them less to manufacture CUV's because they can easily base them on existing platforms easier than a Station Wagon. It's all about cost and profitability and less about what the consumer wants but what they think the consumer should have.
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Old 01-09-2018, 04:06 PM   #10984
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There are plenty of wagons on the market at the moment. Three car seats still don’t fit side by side in the back seat. You NEED a third row. My youngest is about to be 4 and she can go in a booster and I think those will barely fit side side by side in a second row.
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I really wish we got some of the vans the UK gets like the mid sized Tourneo(Transit) Custom Sport with turbo diesel, make it AWD and its even better. I would take that thing over a CUV any day.
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I wish they’d figure out a safe way to do a reverse third row like they used to do in the old wagons like my grandparents had.
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A new Ford ST!! Oh, it’s an Edge. https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/11/...#slide-7208126

More proof about the crossoveropoclypse. The FiST is dead, the Fusion only got the “Sport” treatment but the Edge ST is a thing. And it’ll probably sell like mad.
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A new Ford ST!! Oh, it’s an Edge. https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/11/...#slide-7208126

More proof about the crossoveropoclypse. The FiST is dead, the Fusion only got the “Sport” treatment but the Edge ST is a thing. And it’ll probably sell like mad.
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Their use of the phrase "This might sway buyers who are reluctant to give up performance to move to a SUV." kind of annoys me. I am not reluctant to give up performance for a SUV, I am reluctant to buy a SUV. I know of dozens of slow as shit cars I would love to own, none of them are SUVs.

This is Fords version of Nissan's "The Juke is the perfect autocross replacement to the S Chassis*."

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Their use of the phrase "This might sway buyers who are reluctant to give up performance to move to a SUV." kind of annoys me. I am not reluctant to give up performance for a SUV, I am reluctant to buy a SUV. I know of dozens of slow as shit cars I would love to own, none of them are SUVs.

This is Fords version of Nissan's "The Juke is the perfect autocross replacement to the S Chassis*."

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I could not agree more. They really do not understand enthusiasts these days.
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I could not agree more. They really do not understand enthusiasts these days.
"enthusiasts" these days want paddle shifters, coilovers, wheels and cell phones to post pics of their cars to instagram with...

we live in very different times and old geezers like us are in a HUGE minority.
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nothing wrong with coilovers. it should come stock on all cars!
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I can agree with this to a point. You know that if Nissan gave us the S16 with coilovers stock they would be GodSpeeds.
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Their use of the phrase "This might sway buyers who are reluctant to give up performance to move to a SUV." kind of annoys me. I am not reluctant to give up performance for a SUV, I am reluctant to buy a SUV. I know of dozens of slow as shit cars I would love to own, none of them are SUVs.

This is Fords version of Nissan's "The Juke is the perfect autocross replacement to the S Chassis*."

*Ignore the fact that it is illegal in stock form due to the shape we made it.
Trucks can absolutely perform. Highly standardized, customizable, hackable, lots of space. Everything a crossover is not.
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Whoa, big news!

New Supra will debut in Geneva (that alone should tell us what kind of aspirations Toyota has for this thing) and will retail under the Gazoo Racing brand. It’ll be called a Supra, Supra GR, Supra GR Sport, and Supra GRMN (GRMN stands for Gazoo Racing tuned by Meisters of the Nürburgring).

Fucking excited.

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Hope this thing is less than $100k.

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That frs is becoming more affordable each day. Affordable cash price. I still believe it will be the newest car I will ever buy. What a beauty that car is. I dont give a fuck about anything else, I have zero interest in advanced technologies, I ain't rich and I hate debt...
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