Alternative to Enthalpy Rom tuning

[TheSparo]

A place in CA called EFI specialists. Kheim over there has been awesome, i sent him my ECU and he tuned it for me for all the things i provided i had. Turnaround was 1day. Yea, one day, amazing guy, he is the most helpful person i have encountered thus far.(though i must say i have not spoken with Scott before)
I have not yet dyno'd my car yet, but i expect great results(from the driveablilty i did have). And the price is under the $500 other places charge. I am not saying that they aren't worth it, but this is just another alternative for the others out there.
I suggest you give him a call before you buy another tune, he also does re-tunes for $40 compared to $100... prices may have changed a little though so don't hold me to it. I can't stress enough how enormously helpful this guy is.

His number is 510-303-6530 and the website is www.efispecialist.com
and no i don't work for them, i just wanted to give a heads up to anyone out there who thinks $500 is a little much for a ROM tune, oh yea, tell him I sent ya

[Flybert]

With Scott (enthalpy), you are paying for his experience with tuning SR's. He's dyno tuned so many different setups, it's not even funny. He knows what works and he knows what doesn't. He also knows how all the different brand injectors differ in terms of their flow characteristics. I'd say a lot of people pay the extra cost for the peace of mind that he provides. When you think about it that way, a few extra hundred isn't much of a sacrifice.

[TheSparo]

i understand what you're saying, but if you can get the same performance and reliability for cheaper... why not? and i agree with you on the injectors part, but that can be taught just trying to give a heads up to everybody up there, not trying to start a debate on who's better and who's not...

[kazuo]

Enthalpy (Scott) has experience under his belt and is proven.

This guy, no one has heard of.

Not bagging the guy you went to, all I'm sayin' is, no one really knows for sure.

Dyno comparisons (and who blows up cars) say it all...

[EchoOfSilence]

just do it yourself.

[SochBAT]

Its kinda like "I'll do your engine swap for you for 100bucks," and "I'll do your swap for you for 400, and yes, this will be probably my 33278137 swap, so i know what im doing, and i know all the neat tricks for doing it in as quick as possible, and have it running in tiptop shape when you recieve it. If you don't believe me, please ask my clients about my work. I'm sure you won't be dissapointed."

Damn, talk about run on sentences! Or actually, sentence.

[TheSparo]

he's had lots of clients, but he just isn't well known throughout the forums, and that's what i am trying to do...

[sr240mike]

He used to sell Enthalpy and JWT ecu's on craigslist too, [email protected] was his email. What this tells me (and most people who know about rom tuning know) is that he would buy other companies ecu's, copy them, open them up with rom editor, make a few changes, then resell his "new" program. This can all be done with about $100 in hardware/software. The chips and daughterboard cost him about $50, so anything over that is pure profit. Im 100% positive that he has not tuned almost all of his programs on a dyno and that he used theoretical values for programming, which by the way are already done for you on the Free Programs that are out there. http://ecu2.forumwise.com/

[killjoy]

Haha, Owned!

[Mike Wazowski]

Ohhh this thread just got really good.

[Jeff240sx]

TheSparo - before repping someone's product, you should either have empyrical evidence (i.e. your ecu is making withing xx% of Enthalpy's ecu), or a side-by-side comparison of his ecu vs. Scott's ecu on a similar setup.
-Jeff

[crazy9ceguy]

kool....................

[Ghettokracker71]

Go with Hondata or Uberdata....





Wait forget that,my mind is in the honda gutter :-(.







LOL

[TheSparo]

Originally Posted by Jeff240sx

I've edited this out. Sorry The Sparo.

and since when are dyno numbers the all tell tale of power? well i guess to serve your quench, i will go dyno it when i have some extra money and time to drive somewhere rather than where i am at (no dyno nearby)

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by TheSparo

what proof do you have saying he stole them? and if he did, i obviously didn't have any clue about it. and since when are dyno numbers the all tell tale of power? well i guess to serve your quench, i will go dyno it when i have some extra money and time to drive somewhere rather than where i am at (no dyno nearby)

How else to you plan to gather empirical data? The seat of your ass?

From the data he does provide the tunes seem more padded then JWT. 11:1 A:F, eww talk about rich.

[TheSparo]

Originally Posted by S14DB

How else to you plan to gather empirical data? The seat of your ass?

From the data he does provide the tunes seem more padded then JWT. 11:1 A:F, eww talk about rich.

im just asking if you have proof that he didn't find this out himself... and who said anything about 11:1 A:F?? im confused

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by TheSparo

im just asking if you have proof that he didn't find this out himself... and who said anything about 11:1 A:F?? im confused

http://www.efispecialist.com/s13sr20det-a-r-spec.html
I guess you didn't read the specs on your miracle tune.

You still didn't answer my dyno question.

[TheSparo]

Originally Posted by S14DB

http://www.efispecialist.com/s13sr20det-a-r-spec.html
I guess you didn't read the specs on your miracle tune.

You still didn't answer my dyno question.

wow dude, you're obviously blowing this way out of proportion... if you feel more comfortable paying $500 for an ROM tune, then go for it, i didn't see the need to spend the extra money IF (yes i said if) i could get close to the same tune for less... i'm not a dedicated racer like you must be by your attitude... i'm looking for a nicely power 240 that is daily reliable and fun to drive... again if you feel the need to spend more on a ROM tune, well to each his own, i am not putting anyone down, so chill the hell out

[Jeff240sx]

We're not talking about max power here. We're talking about drivablilty, fuel economy, response, and a few other things that are based on A:F and timing.
Anyway, get what you want. $500 is a drop in the bucket knowing that if there's an issue with Scott's tune, he'll resend a new chip, with zero downtime on your end, and no more money out of the pocket. Knowing that Scott will extract the most power at the safest air/fuel ratios, and that Scott has written each and every one of his programs, and has years of tuning, and a few SR20 horsepower records under his belt.
-Jeff

[sr240mike]

Did you pay the price listed on there site? I see some of their auctions going for VERRRy cheap on ebay right now. Because of the forum listed above safe rom tunes are available for 300zx's for $50 instead of JWT's $500. I dont doubt that EFI specialists tunes are safe to run. If more people learned how to tune 90-96 Nissan ecu's we would see Rom tune prices like in Japanese car mags, $60 US. Tuning ecu's is very easy to anyone who takes the time to learn.

[supportTHEezln]

Most Japanese ROM tunes are comparable actually from what I've read, what catalog were you looking at? Also, I too think this guy is just copying Enthalpy, considering he only offers what Enthalpy or less. Meaning if Enthalpy doesn't have a tune, this guy doesn't either I.E. S14 SR's. (which Scott is finishing up I hear.)

[Jeff240sx]

Well.. the s13 sr20 ecu uses an eeprom, I believe. And the s14 sr20 ecu probably uses a daughterboard, or a different data delivery stream. It's not a lack of map issue. It was a technology issue of some sort for a long time. Like us OBD-2 KA guys.
-Jeff

[TheSnail]

SnailTuned Ecu's
Group buys will be 75%, but here is the intro price.

100$- 1 resistor (200hp)
150$- 2 resistors(250hp)
175$- 3 resistors(It pings at anything above 700rpm, which means you have atleast 300hp.)

For further info, contact me at [email protected].

[kazuo]

He doesnt offer what Enthalpy is offering for less, unless he is straight copying Enthalpy's maps... cause its dyno-proven that Enthalpy's map nets at least 40hp over JWT... at LEAST.

So, yeah.

This guy is either copying other people's tunes, or he's selling junk.

The JDM tunes do hardly anything... mostly just remove the limiters and are slightly more aggressive, but no 40hp gains. Nothign even close.

[SochBAT]

Common Sense for the WIN!!!

Sorry, this isn't really like me.

Then again, being an artist, i know the feel of being victim to piracy and plaggerism.

And yea, dynos do prove things. Y do you think there are DynoWhores? Its good to compare things.

[ALTRNTV]

This thread is going nowhere fast.

I'd still get from Scott if I wanted a ROM tune.

[Rezlo]

I would use scott if i could but after talking to him he said im kinda on my own with my WF ecu in my S14 200sx (eu spec)

Anyone used a daugter board or similar on the S14's? or is there any other way of tunning it for my Z32 and 550's besides a S-afc which, and no i cant afford stand alone

[Enthalpy]

you guys can buy from whomever you like. there is a reason that there are $150 turbo manifolds and $1200 turbo manifolds. some people understand quality and customer service and are willing to pay what that is worth. as for people copying my tunes...i cant say either way becasue i dont have proof. but in today's world it wouldnt surprise me. read the fine print tho guys...1-2 WEEKS for delivery?? RS Enthalpy has always included NEXT DAY AIR return shipping on ALL orders. part of the reason my price is higher...

[eyustfu]

I can vouch for scott, i got my ecu back the next day. Great guy, great service, great customer support... what more can you ask for?

[sr240mike]

Snail and Jeff you have no idea what you are talking about. They are not resistors and ALL sr20det ecu's use daughterboards. In fact everyone that offers their technical opinion who has not tuned an ecu before is talking out of there asses right now. All I know, FOR A FACT, is that he was selling name brand ecu's on craigslist at one time (about 6-12 months ago), and he started up this new company and is making money. The only things that would be valueable from other peoples tunes are 1. timing 2. fuel. If he did buy and look at other's tunes it would be like taking someone elses carb jet settings and timing settings for a 69 camaro. After you get an idea of where everything should be, everything else is already figured out for you with FREEEEE software.