What Happened?? Because Driftcar...Somewhere along the way we missed the point...

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by driftxninja

as for the stealing cars... that sucks that the world is like that. i would definately relocate ...

See but the thing is you are going to ask someone to move to a different city or state, because the particular car they own has become a thief magnet?
Dude I live in Los Angeles I am here for a reason, I would not move somewhere else. I would buy a car that is not so targeted by thieves though.
I think you look at this solely from a insulated perspective of where you live.

I live in one of the places that accounted for the majority of sales of these cars in the first place. Hence more of them being seen. Now it used to be you would see a fair amount of stock ones or clean ones.
Now the majority of what you see is beat up multicolored shit piles driving around or parked.
Its embarrassing because the average Joe now thinks the cars are nothing but beat up shit pile high school kids cars.

I never thought I would miss the day, that someone parked to close to my clean low mileage Black 91 fastback. I was concerned about it and this guy stands there are goes man its just a Nissan stop worrying.

No worries of it getting stolen. No respect? maybe but disrespect not really.

This all makes one want to buy a 350z or some other modern car and not worry.
What has happened in drifting is all part of the symptoms of what has happened overall.

Like I said earlier its changed, and regardless of what you think I completely understand Brian's comment of "this is why I quite"
I know where he is coming from.

[FaLKoN240]

This thread now sucks because all of the band wagoners are defending their current "scene"

[tricky_ab]

On my way home from work I had seen a rattle can purple 240 with lovely lime green spayed crappy rims. I could already hear his explanation in my head...

"So um, you going to paint this thing?"..."Nah bro, it's my drift slut. It's just going to get messed up so why do it?!"

[DenkiMan!]

^^^^lol hey now, my car has faded paint and id rather spend money on other things that need mechanical attention. ppl ask me that sometimes and i say something like well im learning how to drift and when starting out with not that much skill, paint is the least of my worries...

a little more dignified thant "its my drift slut" which makes no sense lol

as for the american drift scene, yea D1 was started 4 years before Formula D and im sure the scene was different before hand. drifting itself didnt even become ALL that popular until tokyo drift came out - lets be honest. and it came out 2 yrs after Formula D was started.

now being only 20, im not guna say that i "miss" the old days when drifting was about repping various car companies, clubs and just flat out fun, but i sure do wish i was a part of it. i like what that was about way more than what im seeing now, and i know ppl agree on that.

if ppl lump you in their misconstrued beliefs of what drifting is about so what? do your thing with ppl who love the sport, have fun and do it right

unless your someone who owns spray painted, joker themed cars, with most likely knock off parts and says "nah bro, its my drift slut..." then no dont ever do your own thing and i hate you

[Shift n Drift]

i love it when i tell people that i bought another motor for her, and they just say... "you got to get rid of that car"

that makes me laugh pretty good

[Kingbaby]

lmao at "drift slut"

Same reason I'm doing paint correction on my 240sx. I like my shit looking good, and not thinking it's a drift car cause it's beat up. America...go figure! Drifitng is now about powering your way through a corner. No style, No technique, No respect for learning how to do it correctly.

NOW it's

power

oversteer

smash gas

counter steer!


look I'm drifting!




"It was all lost when someone couldn't drift with a slow car" - random

[Shift n Drift]

in formula drift this would not have counted because his wheel went of the track close to the end,

WTF, that was nasty. count that shit fo sho
formula drift is not cool

Originally Posted by iStayBroke

This is a thread that needed to happen.

More of this:


Less of this:


I blame America, not even joking.
Everything gets turned into a huge fucking contest of "I'm faster, I got more power." That's just how America is, but drifting is about driver skill, not using your 700hp as a crutch to cover your lack of said skills.

I have more but I can't put it into words currently.

This sums up my thoughts on the current state of "professional" drifting.

[Lucas180]

People just need to stop trying to fake them self's and stop being hacks.

I think about this kinda stuff every day.. and every time i go to the track and see peoples cars i have to drift against with makes me not even wanna compete with them.. stuff like peoples cars that aren't even washed and have all different color panels literally hanging off the car..ect.

i got into drifting becasue i love to slide my car sideways. no other reason. there is no reason why drifters cant take care of their cars...some ppl just dont get it i guess. i love my 240 i built it the best way i know by learning about the car the hard way i guess you could say. but the hard way took time. i really started to hate the whole import car tuning scene. it just seems so stupid. i like to just have a clean car, drift it for fun and drive home.. hopefully with the win.


Me and my car at Mosport in Canada this past weekend with a first place! no stickers or wisker zip ties.. or whatever else drifting is getting known for

[5pecialist]

If image is important, step up to a Ferrari.

[DenkiMan!]

Originally Posted by Lucas180

People just need to stop trying to fake them self's and stop being hacks.

I think about this kinda stuff every day.. and every time i go to the track and see peoples cars i have to drift against with makes me not even wanna compete with them.. stuff like peoples cars that aren't even washed and have all different color panels literally hanging off the car..ect.

i got into drifting becasue i love to slide my car sideways. no other reason. there is no reason why drifters cant take care of their cars...some ppl just dont get it i guess. i love my 240 i built it the best way i know by learning about the car the hard way i guess you could say. but the hard way took time. i really started to hate the whole import car tuning scene. it just seems so stupid. i like to just have a clean car, drift it for fun and drive home.. hopefully with the win.


Me and my car at Mosport in Canada this past weekend with a first place! no stickers or wisker zip ties.. or whatever else drifting is getting known for

^^^ i mean you have to understand that most ppl get into drifting when their young and don't have all that much money, so it isn't always easy to come by. when you drift, your car is a money pit anyways and shits always breaking, shit u need to replace.

like i was saying in my first post, appearance isn't always a priority for most. your car has to work first before it looks pretty, and keeping it pretty when your drifting hardcore is not easy or cheap at all in my opinion. im pretty sure that's why ppl see so many crappy looking 240's...most drifters just don't care for a reason

[Kingbaby]

plus motherfuckers can't drive first off, tryna drift

then think it's cool they wreck...

[Speed Junky]

So much hate in this thread lol

Shit, I love it, I first saw a nice fixed up Honda when I was 8, my life change after that. I like people who take pride in their cars, doesn't matter what brand it is. You can tell who has worked hard for their nice ride and take pride in it.

I got into drifting in 2000, it's definitely changed, but o well, not like it was going to stay the same forever.

To be honest I don't see myself selling my 89' hatch. Eventually it will be strictly a track car.

[lflkajfj12123]

Hrmmmmmmmm...

I will continue to build cars how I like them and drift in 2012...

and 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 and so on...

I stopped paying attention to what every one else is doing and just focused on what I want to do.

BH #1 (you'll be back buddy)

[misterdumby]

I try to preserve my car... not make up excuses why it looks like shit because all the fan boys think its cool. But whatever, to each their own eh?
Whats the benefit of rusting your hoods, flashy zip ties, and stickers all over the place? because it looks cool??? uh...
There is an obvious difference between car enthusiasts, and kids that have no idea what they're doing.

[iStayBroke]

Ive been thinking about the other stuff I wanted to say

Before I start I want to say that while I still blame America, I don't have any problem with v8 cars. It's the American mentality. I've lived in Japan on and off for over ten years(most of my life) and seeing stuff happen in America when your out of the country really affects how you see things. It's a 1-up type thing where everything has to be done bigger, faster, and your car better make more power than the person before you. That's why cars like the new charger and challenger come with 400+ horsepower, but then have to spin 20 inch wheels from the factory. For the most part, here in Japan, just being a car guy(or girl) is enough. If you love your car and like how your car looks, so be it.

But using a drift scion with a crate v8 as a marketing tool for the brand when a scion is not rear wheel drive or a v8 engined car is where the line should be drawn.
If it was a private thing where some guy and his garage decided to chop up a scion to drift it it would not seem nearly as bad as a factory-backed facade.

And i think that's it for now.

[pinkarrowsnow]

Everyone should stop complaining. We all enjoy drifting weather cars look like shit or look really cool. Some people rather beat the fuck out of there car and get good at driving then spend money on a cool set of wheels. Some people like to win and be competitive cause losing sucks and isnt much fun. v8's did not ruin drifting it made it more entertaining to watch. Yes it isnt like japanese drifting but it still is drifting the same thing we all like to do and watch cars going sideways. 3-4 years ago in formula d you would be lucky to watch 5 good tandems all event now every run is awesome door to door action. Im sure half the people that complain in this thread dont go to multiple events every month spend thousands on tires, gas, and event fees but at the end of the day we all do it cause we like drifting. Whoever said the skateboarding comment before is one hundred percent right. X games people never bitched at the street skaters/kids/fanboys but the street skaters/kids/fanboys sure talked shit on the other guys. Things progress thoughout time people dont like change so either complain to a bunch of fags on the internet or deal with it.

Here is a prime example my car looks like dick and got crashed terribly this year and landers has one of the coolest looking 240s on the internet and he doesnt complain about how gay my car is cause were having fun!

[Dolph_KYAS13]

A good friend once said

"Don' forget kids;
drifting is all about friends, and enjoying a day at the track.
take this shit too seriously, and you can suck a huge dick.

unless you are into that, then suck something you really don't like"

amen to that

[DenkiMan!]

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by Flicktitty

just the sisterfucking population in Wisconsin in years behind. Funny how i can be completely sick of a fad online before a group of people start doing it here.

its too bad mark borchardt isnt into drifting. that would put wisconsin up on the map as #1, at least i think so

Originally Posted by adam s

Honest to god, this entire thread details why I sold my 240 to get into an FD3s.

In the end the man beat me, the man told me I was a drifter, the man told me I was a tuner, and the man told me I needed zip ties hanging out of every imaginable seam on my car.

i think thats bullshit. when you get OUT of a car scene to join another, i think thats pathetic. you're a fucking traitor. wheres your loyalty, damnit? you're supposed to be a 240 owner FOR LIFE, blood in, BLOOD OUT esse. FD? fuck that, weaksauce holmes.

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Porsche's do not get stolen at the rate of 240's and you do not their owners being paranoid about parking it anywhere outside of a ghetto.

thats because unlike a 240, a porsche cannot have its doors opened with a pixie stick and the ignition popped with a fucking TWIZZLER

Originally Posted by s tuned

the crap that been messing up the drifting scene IMO is honda guys now trying to move to 240sx and rocking a rainbow full of color car.. also stealing cars thats what has brought the fun down..

i dont like when people say that about the honda community. i mean, its a generalization.. theres some truth to it, but whatever....... idiot car owners have been around forever. im sure the honda guys were pissed when cars were getting stolen back in the 90s...... thats when vtec first came out and thats when they got piss popular

Originally Posted by DenkiMan!

drifting itself didnt even become ALL that popular until tokyo drift came out - lets be honest.

i cant believe you just said that......... you must be 18. edit, nevermind 20. that makes sense.

[ayuaddict]

Originally Posted by DenkiMan!

I would bet you that the gentleman operating that vehicle has a very nice S13 sitting at home. You physically cannot "have a missile car" if you do not have another similar car that looks awesome, you can try - but then, sooner or later, you realize you just drive a shitty car.

[illvialuver]

Okay, ifxi NEVER owned a primered car, or rattle canned to shit car. NEVER will.
I will never quit liking my car.

Let's just say all of us here are male and like women, but then one day all the guys you know who are your friends, started liking guys, would you start to like guys? I wouldnt, just stay true to YOURSELF!!!

Brian Harte, everyone misses you, and talks of you like you were some god, but you know for someone who has the last name Harte you kinda show a lacking of it. No offense, I understand, a lot of my friends have called it quits just because they are getting tired of being lumped into a group of guys who have bad style. I really wish you would have stuck it out. But if you are doing something you love and guys ruin it, like the guys with bad style and cheap ass ghetto cars with no pride or without any ego, and you get out, your not part of the solution but your not part of the problem, your just walking the line in between. The scene really could use more people with love for what they do, and people who take pride in their work.

That is what so many kids lack these days. Diligence, pride in their work( cars, the way they look, and how they act), respect and heart.


Also, Jack, nice one, I agree on a lot of what you said.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Originally Posted by ayuaddict

I would bet you that the gentleman operating that vehicle has a very nice S13 sitting at home. You physically cannot "have a missile car" if you do not have another similar car that looks awesome, you can try - but then, sooner or later, you realize you just drive a shitty car.

S13? I would hope he would have a Chaser or something.

[ayuaddict]

Originally Posted by ILoveMyRHS13

S13? I would hope he would have a Chaser or something.

Some people really like the S13. haha.

Plus, anybody can afford a JZX90 in shitty condition if he wanted one as a "missile".

[nathanong87]

i dont even know what drifting is. i just tried to make my car look like ones i saw from japan

[import madness]

nothing sorry

[dat411kid]

Originally Posted by s0apgun

Hrmmmmmmmm...

I will continue to build cars how I like them and drift in 2012...

and 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 and so on...

I stopped paying attention to what every one else is doing and just focused on what I want to do.

That's about rite....In everything there will be those that come and go...And those that stay until....

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by illvialuver

Okay, ifxi NEVER owned a primered car, or rattle canned to shit car. NEVER will.

my car was primired for 3 years. but that was when it sat and sat at the shady body shop.

[ch1873857]

america...fuck yeah. comin again to save the motha fuckin dayeee yeahhhhh.

i admire this thread. a lot of people are finally putting out what they have thought for a long time. i can relate a lot to this thread. i didnt even have my license when drifting came out. hell drifting wasnt existant here when i got into 240s. i still love to watch it, i go to every event i can but the cars get shittier and shittier.

if anyone has been to hyperfest on the east coast youll know what i mean. first couple years it was amazing. the cars sounded great, they looked awesome. couldnt get enough of it. i remember brian wilkerson always getting second place in his frankenstein car and acted like he won just because he went out there and had a fuckin ball. he didnt care he almost won. at least it sure didnt look like it anyway.. then it started go downhill. every car has an ls1, less 240s and more 350s, solstices, etc.. just wasnt the average joe i just wanna go out there, have the time of my life and look cool doing it. the last hyperfest i went to was last year. i walked out before it was over. i was more entertained by the drunk dudes fighting in the stands.

but hey thats just me.

drifting to me is me and my buddies at the shop getting our cars ready for the weekend till 3 or 4 in the morning. mounting tires. repainting fenders and bumpers. and rolling out in a 5 car convoy to the track. and having an awesome weekend. its all about fun to me and hanging out with my buddies. getting away from the wife for a weekend. helping eachother learn. if it were about whos better and who gets more angle then i wouldve been done years ago. if i didnt have my buddies to go with, i would be done.

end rant/

i mean come on. look how gay we are. i love it.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by illvialuver

Okay, ifxi NEVER owned a primered car, or rattle canned to shit car. NEVER will.
I will never quit liking my car.

Let's just say all of us here are male and like women, but then one day all the guys you know who are your friends, started liking guys, would you start to like guys? I wouldnt, just stay true to YOURSELF!!!

Brian Harte, everyone misses you, and talks of you like you were some god, but you know for someone who has the last name Harte you kinda show a lacking of it. No offense, I understand, a lot of my friends have called it quits just because they are getting tired of being lumped into a group of guys who have bad style. I really wish you would have stuck it out. But if you are doing something you love and guys ruin it, like the guys with bad style and cheap ass ghetto cars with no pride or without any ego, and you get out, your not part of the solution but your not part of the problem, your just walking the line in between. The scene really could use more people with love for what they do, and people who take pride in their work.

That is what so many kids lack these days. Diligence, pride in their work( cars, the way they look, and how they act), respect and heart.


Also, Jack, nice one, I agree on a lot of what you said.

The real question is, should you take what I write in this thread as truth or possibly B.S words that amuse me at the moment?

[codyace]

I'd blame most of it on the internet (forums).

Gone is the ability to hang out and have fun, and not stress; in was the internet superstar, who was more hardcore than the next. I think forums are the biggest reason for this, as it's enabled shitty cars to be 'hero' cars, and labled those 'doing it right' as pretentious or all about money...when it couldn't be further from the truth. This is prevelent in almost all 'car' circles now, and it's kinda crappy. I'm thankful that my group of friends can hang out regardless of the cars, and not even focus on them (even though it's our common bond).

Originally Posted by ILoveMyRHS13

I don't know about other areas, but DRAMA is definitely making drifting gay in the north east. It's like highschool in some places; it's pathetic.

I'm not even into drifting, and can sense that at some of the events I've been too. Again, it's all about being in the cool guy club now, instead of having fun.

Originally Posted by OBEEWON

Oh man that is so bad I want to punch myself for posting it.
OH AND PLEASE STOP BRINGING UGLY CHICKS WITH YOU TO THE TRACK! No one wants to see that mess.

A couple of us made this same point at the last drifting event we attended...the lack of talent was mindblowing.

+1 for roadcourse guys here, at least they can afford some decent broads to waltz around the pits.