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!Zar! · 07-23-2011, 10:50 AM

I think the forums aren't necessarily glorifying shitty cars, but glorifying nicely built cars. For some reason the poor people think we are in some imaginary race to throw the most parts possible at a car as quickly as they can. That is where bad judgment comes in and people start going cheap, or say, 'fuckit'. The result is shitty looking cars that kids have built.

Then those same kids claim that they are hardcore in the, 'scene' because they slapped on some $600 coilovers, and a $400 set of XXR's while they meet up at their local boba spot with their shit-buckets.

Anyways, whooooooooo go american driftingggggg!

carmaniac1993 · 07-23-2011, 11:01 AM

how does being 18 mean anything? im 18 years old and ive been in love with drifting ever since i can remember honestly. i have no fucked up view of drifting. i just love having fun sideways and building my car

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

i cant believe you just said that......... you must be 18. edit, nevermind 20. that makes sense.

EhrikETFG · 07-23-2011, 11:05 AM

The age remark was directed at someone who said that drifting only became popular because of tokyo drift. I imagine if youre 18 and a nice car he wouldnt care. Its just that most people your(and my) age suck.

carmaniac1993 · 07-23-2011, 11:09 AM

alright, i know exactly what you mean about my generation sucking. sometime it just bugs me how people generalize though. lol

codyace · 07-23-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by !Zar!

I think the forums aren't necessarily glorifying shitty cars, but glorifying nicely built cars. For some reason the poor people think we are in some imaginary race to throw the most parts possible at a car as quickly as they can. That is where bad judgment comes in and people start going cheap, or say, 'fuckit'. The result is shitty looking cars that kids have built.

You said it better than I could! That's the root issue to me, I just wasn't sure how to type what I was thinking

The big thing most of the new guys don't seem to have is the devotion/dedication/lack of attention that some of the older guys had; and that doesn't mean that a car with less mods is worse, it's just that so many people are content with saying 'fuckit' that it's really reduced overall quality and care.

Zero-Offset · 07-23-2011, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by s0apgun

Hrmmmmmmmm...

I will continue to build cars how I like them and drift in 2012...

and 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 and so on...

I stopped paying attention to what every one else is doing and just focused on what I want to do.

BH #1 (you'll be back buddy)

thank you for saying this. it needed to be said.
build your car the way YOU like. in the end its your money, and it should bring YOU satisfaction most importantly.

95KA-Turbo · 07-23-2011, 11:53 AM

The problem isn't what people do to their cars, its how they do it.

There is this unexplainable thing Japan has that the US just doesn't collectively have. You can feel it in the air when you're there, when you see peoples cars over there - even the ones that don't look good - you can feel it coming from the car.

When you build a car you should be breaking yourself down to the smallest levels and fully immerse yourself in what you're doing. Then when you have the finished product part of yourself is in it and others will be able to feel it when they look at your car.

I think this is why some cars can have the same exact stuff on it and one will feel completely different then the other.

I think Wagners car is an excellent example of that. Its red, has uras, widebody, battles, and it isn't very low - none of those things should make it extraordinary, but it has a presence that cars with 'rarer' parts don't have.

Freddy · 07-23-2011, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by !Zar!

For some reason the poor people think we are in some imaginary race to throw the most parts possible at a car as quickly as they can.

well said, well said

azndoc · 07-23-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian

How about a smashed in driver side door pillar?

Just so we're clear, BH made me spin because he asked me to slow down so his shitty KA could catch up and I have never ever driven that slow in my life.

Blam

lol, but seriously I drove the car like a maniac after that because from then on I just didn't care and it was great.

iamtheyi · 07-23-2011, 12:32 PM

So, the basic consensus here is that because I'm not ballersauce, and rather spend money on actual parts/tires/track time, instead of a paint job, I should just not be part of the scene because my car is ugly? lol. Haters.

ILoveMyRHS13 · 07-23-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by iamtheyi

So, the basic consensus here is that because I'm not ballersauce, and rather spend money on actual parts/tires/track time, instead of a paint job, I should just not be part of the scene because my car is ugly? lol. Haters.

Do what you will, no one will ever stop you. We're just trying to say we don't enjoy watching the ugly cars. It doesn't matter if you're good, if your car is ugly, no one will watch you drift.

I'd rather see a sexy looking car spinning out or not "killing it" then see an ugly car "killing it."

Kingbaby · 07-23-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by iamtheyi

So, the basic consensus here is that because I'm not ballersauce, and rather spend money on actual parts/tires/track time, instead of a paint job, I should just not be part of the scene because my car is ugly? lol. Haters.

Technically no!

That a ugly car isn't and shouldn't be considered cool to the point "kids" do it on purpose!

!Zar! · 07-23-2011, 01:13 PM

Nobody gives a fuck about ugly cars on the track.

Brian · 07-23-2011, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by azndoc

Just so we're clear, BH made me spin because he asked me to slow down so his shitty KA could catch up and I have never ever driven that slow in my life.

Blam

lol, but seriously I drove the car like a maniac after that because from then on I just didn't care and it was great.

I'll have to agree with the reasoning.

iamtheyi · 07-23-2011, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by !Zar!

Nobody gives a fuck about ugly cars on the track.

lol I don't give a fuck about anyone else at the track either as long as they're not doing stupid shit and I'm having a good time :].

Just wanted to add that the car is a work in progress. It'll get sprayed at some point. Just not now

tricky_ab · 07-23-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by !Zar!

I think the forums aren't necessarily glorifying shitty cars, but glorifying nicely built cars. For some reason the poor people think we are in some imaginary race to throw the most parts possible at a car as quickly as they can. That is where bad judgment comes in and people start going cheap, or say, 'fuckit'. The result is shitty looking cars that kids have built.

Then those same kids claim that they are hardcore in the, 'scene' because they slapped on some $600 coilovers, and a $400 set of XXR's while they meet up at their local boba spot with their shit-buckets.

I totally agree with this. For me, I do the research and buy the parts that fit my need. I'm willing to spend in order to get the most out of the part in question. If that makes me "baller" for choosing to spend cash then so be it. Everyone has a budget, but some will take the time to save to get the parts they want, where others will cop out...

Another thing is that people love to be the "internet hero" and want instant gratification from others. This is happening with various car brands though. You know the score, where people build amazing cars. Then they get a feature in a magazine and then sell it because the are "finished".

People need to build cars for themselves and not for internet bro respect.

illvialuver · 07-23-2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by iamtheyi

So, the basic consensus here is that because I'm not ballersauce, and rather spend money on actual parts/tires/track time, instead of a paint job, I should just not be part of the scene because my car is ugly? lol. Haters.

Totally missing the point. If YOU CANT AFFORD BALLER PARTS IT DOESNT MEAN TO PUT JUNK ASS SHIT ON YOUR CAR. Although you may think you are making a race car, it doesn't mean it is a race to make the a finished product. If you want wheels, buy the best ones you can afford, and in a good size, don't buy things just for the sake of not having stock parts, try to save and buy important things. But WHATEVER YOU DO, just take pride in your car. Like keep it clean, take care of maintenance, sure it may not be as fun as buying aftermarket parts, but it is just as important.

This is not a snobbish ballers only club. I have given guys props with nice ride highth and g35 or z wheels. and clean paint.

BH, touche. Good point, but thanks for bringing it up. This is the internet and people will take things seriously. I don't personally know you, met you maybe a few times, so maybe I just took it the wrong way, and if I did, I know others did. But I think people should stick things out if they love them. If you really like something, don't quit it when you run into problems. Or because the scene is filling up with asshats and fucktards.

Maybe I am just too much of an enthusiast, and Nissans are my life, and my passion, so maybe I am wrong to assume that people should have as much heart or enthusiasm as me.

Almost all my friends are from my involvement in this scene or industry. I am here to have a good time, and to make friends, my love of cars and the people I have met through them, has brought me many good things in my life, and I look forward to more good times and good people. I am not here for people to think I am cool.

Tricky AB, HIGH FIVE!

***FaLKoN240*** · 07-23-2011, 05:55 PM

I can't afford real wheels. I bought these new Rotas in a similar style for $800 instead of $2400 (when you could've bought a set of used wheels for that price)

I crashed my car and don't have money for paint, so I just bought a different color fender. I primered just that fender, then decided to primer the entire car until I save up enough money to paint it one day. *two years later* ...car is still primered.

Etc.

Crappy mindset, crappy execution, and rushed builds. That is why we have shit cars.

azndoc · 07-23-2011, 07:37 PM

Hi, I did not have the money for brand name condoms and so I just used this Doritos bag instead.

kouki_steve · 07-23-2011, 07:46 PM

Bodykits. WTF. Never picked up the memo that you needed to run dmax/origin/etc style
on EVERY 240, much less that drifts to even be considered. Regardless of paint,
theres more shitty ass multicolored body kit 240's that this forum
CREAMS over, then clean sexy STOCK styled 240's. It's very sad.

I guess I'm just one of those guys, (the rare), that would rather stay stock
body. How/what the car REALLY looks like, effective wheel fitment and height, maybe
a factory lip. ENJOY it. THE end.

I also say, that d1 should be divided according to horsepower. not a poor
sr20 s15 turbo vs an ls7. both nice looking maybe, but both completely out
of each others level. Lets get it all fair again, and bring the competition
to the WIRE. not landslide. grassroots style

Imarvin240 · 07-23-2011, 07:47 PM

its absolutly amazing how much truth is in this thread...and its also really sad with how bad it has gotten in the "drifting, 240, and just the overall car enthusiast" scenes.

!Zar! · 07-23-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by azndoc

Hi, I did not have the money for brand name condoms and so I just used this Doritos bag instead.

LOL This is perfect.

blingbling · 07-23-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by azndoc

Hi, I did not have the money for brand name condoms and so I just used this Doritos bag instead.

Now I have 2 children, no money, and my s13 is STILL ROCKS PRIMER.

lflkajfj12123 · 07-23-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by azndoc

Hi, I did not have the money for brand name condoms and so I just used this Doritos bag instead.

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upsdude · 07-23-2011, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

There is this unexplainable thing Japan has that the US just doesn't collectively have. You can feel it in the air when you're there, when you see peoples cars over there - even the ones that don't look good - you can feel it coming from the car.

it's called pride in ownership-some people have it, some just don't

deolio · 07-23-2011, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by iamtheyi

It'll get sprayed at some point. Just not now

if you put the time and effort in you can make a cheap roller-paint job look fairly decent.

codyace · 07-23-2011, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by upsdude

it's called pride in ownership-some people have it, some just don't

I'm sure anyone with prior service understand when I say this, as it's all about

'attention to detail'

...that's what seperates the cool guys from the car guys.

tricky_ab · 07-23-2011, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by azndoc

Hi, I did not have the money for brand name condoms and so I just used this Doritos bag instead.

Somebody buy this man a beer...Real talk!

iamtheyi · 07-23-2011, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by deolio

if you put the time and effort in you can make a cheap roller-paint job look fairly decent.

I AM rollering it :]. Just finished prepping the car. A few little touch ups and I'm set to go. Starting next week on thursday

.

mkezzo16 · 07-24-2011, 12:34 AM

Digging this thread..i agree with you guys..even though im not an og 240sx dude and didnt have one back in the day..i been watching drifting since b4 it blew up in the US..and notice the changes ..only reason this wasnt my first ride cuz pops got me a clean mr2 b4 i even got my L's but i agree..keep ya car clean no matter what

07-23-2011, 10:50 AM	#121
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	I think the forums aren't necessarily glorifying shitty cars, but glorifying nicely built cars. For some reason the poor people think we are in some imaginary race to throw the most parts possible at a car as quickly as they can. That is where bad judgment comes in and people start going cheap, or say, 'fuckit'. The result is shitty looking cars that kids have built. Then those same kids claim that they are hardcore in the, 'scene' because they slapped on some $600 coilovers, and a $400 set of XXR's while they meet up at their local boba spot with their shit-buckets. Anyways, whooooooooo go american driftingggggg! __________________

07-23-2011, 11:53 AM	#127
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 38 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	The problem isn't what people do to their cars, its how they do it. There is this unexplainable thing Japan has that the US just doesn't collectively have. You can feel it in the air when you're there, when you see peoples cars over there - even the ones that don't look good - you can feel it coming from the car. When you build a car you should be breaking yourself down to the smallest levels and fully immerse yourself in what you're doing. Then when you have the finished product part of yourself is in it and others will be able to feel it when they look at your car. I think this is why some cars can have the same exact stuff on it and one will feel completely different then the other. I think Wagners car is an excellent example of that. Its red, has uras, widebody, battles, and it isn't very low - none of those things should make it extraordinary, but it has a presence that cars with 'rarer' parts don't have. __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop

07-23-2011, 12:32 PM	#130
iamtheyi Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brea, CA Age: 32 Posts: 2,252 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	So, the basic consensus here is that because I'm not ballersauce, and rather spend money on actual parts/tires/track time, instead of a paint job, I should just not be part of the scene because my car is ugly? lol. Haters. __________________

07-23-2011, 01:13 PM	#133
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Nobody gives a fuck about ugly cars on the track. __________________

07-23-2011, 05:55 PM	#138
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,885 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	I can't afford real wheels. I bought these new Rotas in a similar style for $800 instead of $2400 (when you could've bought a set of used wheels for that price) I crashed my car and don't have money for paint, so I just bought a different color fender. I primered just that fender, then decided to primer the entire car until I save up enough money to paint it one day. two years later ...car is still primered. Etc. Crappy mindset, crappy execution, and rushed builds. That is why we have shit cars. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

07-23-2011, 11:05 AM	#123
EhrikETFG Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 689 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The age remark was directed at someone who said that drifting only became popular because of tokyo drift. I imagine if youre 18 and a nice car he wouldnt care. Its just that most people your(and my) age suck.

07-23-2011, 11:09 AM	#124
carmaniac1993 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Nashville, Tennessee Age: 31 Posts: 274 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	alright, i know exactly what you mean about my generation sucking. sometime it just bugs me how people generalize though. lol

07-23-2011, 07:37 PM	#139
azndoc Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 42 Posts: 9,487 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: azndoc Feedback Score: 47 reviews	Hi, I did not have the money for brand name condoms and so I just used this Doritos bag instead.

07-23-2011, 07:46 PM	#140
kouki_steve Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mcallen, tx Posts: 132 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Bodykits. WTF. Never picked up the memo that you needed to run dmax/origin/etc style on EVERY 240, much less that drifts to even be considered. Regardless of paint, theres more shitty ass multicolored body kit 240's that this forum CREAMS over, then clean sexy STOCK styled 240's. It's very sad. I guess I'm just one of those guys, (the rare), that would rather stay stock body. How/what the car REALLY looks like, effective wheel fitment and height, maybe a factory lip. ENJOY it. THE end. I also say, that d1 should be divided according to horsepower. not a poor sr20 s15 turbo vs an ls7. both nice looking maybe, but both completely out of each others level. Lets get it all fair again, and bring the competition to the WIRE. not landslide. grassroots style

07-23-2011, 07:47 PM	#141
Imarvin240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: king of prussia, PA! Posts: 1,721 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	its absolutly amazing how much truth is in this thread...and its also really sad with how bad it has gotten in the "drifting, 240, and just the overall car enthusiast" scenes. __________________ https://instagram.com/eck_matthew/

07-24-2011, 12:34 AM	#150
mkezzo16 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Granada Hills, CA Posts: 461 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Digging this thread..i agree with you guys..even though im not an og 240sx dude and didnt have one back in the day..i been watching drifting since b4 it blew up in the US..and notice the changes ..only reason this wasnt my first ride cuz pops got me a clean mr2 b4 i even got my L's but i agree..keep ya car clean no matter what