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Old 04-26-2022, 08:01 AM   #1
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Beyond that, there's also MOQ requirements, factories will not waste their time unless you order sufficient quantities or dollar amounts for wheels. At the end of the day high offset 414 wheels are not meant for this chassis, just leave it at that.
Right. It just seems like, given all these lead times ad so on, they just ended up missing the trend of our cars coming back in style/people spending a lot of money on them and both owners and wheel manufacturers lose. I can make stuff work... but I think of the reddit r/240SX crowd that just wants to go on a website and click 'buy' and get wheels that fit. Can't do that if you have a 4 lug car.
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I think of the reddit r/240SX crowd that just wants to go on a website and click 'buy' and get wheels that fit. Can't do that if you have a 4 lug car.
I get that but if one is willing to drop that kind of cash on wheels a 5 lug swap does not seem like it would be that big of a deal.
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I get that but if one is willing to drop that kind of cash on wheels a 5 lug swap does not seem like it would be that big of a deal.
Have you ever spent time on that subreddit? Because this simple logic would blow their minds.
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Have you ever spent time on that subreddit? Because this simple logic would blow their minds.
Reddit and Logic don't go together.
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I get that but if one is willing to drop that kind of cash on wheels a 5 lug swap does not seem like it would be that big of a deal.
No shit.

There is zero reason to keep a 240sx 4-lug. 5 lug opens the door to a billion wheel options and then matching commonality with just about every other desirable car you may own or one day own.

5x114.3 is king and if I owned a GT86, I'd be swapping that shit as well.
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Right. It just seems like, given all these lead times ad so on, they just ended up missing the trend of our cars?
No one is missing anything.

The market for S-chassis has been shrinking since 2002. The trend is for this market to get saturated with parts and slowly die out.

That?s what you?re missing, you keep thinking it?s some revival when it?s just a bunch of old cars getting regurgitated because the pricing for mint chassis is skyrocketing.

Find me a dozen guys willing to buy decent 4 lug wheels. Then find me the next dozen. The first few are easy to find, the rest are impossible.

Everyone wanted me to get more metal Silvia fenders, but for me to produce it at a low price point of under $1000 a pair, I would have needed to find 500 buyers. Yeah, that?s pretty much a waste of my time.
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I would have needed to find 500 buyers. Yeah, that's pretty much a waste of my time.
And everyone who's ever done some sort of group buy knows that you're lucky to get half of the buyers who actually commit.
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And everyone who's ever done some sort of group buy knows that you're lucky to get half of the buyers who actually commit.
Facts. Nissan could open a group buy with brand new SR20's for $2500 and I doubt you could get more than 10 people.
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The market for S-chassis has been shrinking since 2002.
Lol what?

It's obviously shrinking nowadays but these shits peaked in like 2012.
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Lol what?

It's obviously shrinking nowadays but these shits peaked in like 2012.
Ugh don't remind me. Im still kicking myself for not buying a few notchtops and rb25's when they were $2,500 shipped.
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Lol what?

It's obviously shrinking nowadays but these shits peaked in like 2012.
I meant in terms of worldwide, available cars to modify.
Just because more parts are available doesn?t mean the market for that car has peaked or is increasing.

More owners modifying their cars is also not looking at the whole picture either.
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I meant in terms of worldwide, available cars to modify.
Just because more parts are available doesn?t mean the market for that car has peaked or is increasing.

More owners modifying their cars is also not looking at the whole picture either.
My thinking is that things come in waves, but for sure the market for 'bolt ons' including wheels that 'bolt on' and don't require suspension/axle/hub changes - was highest when the cars were new, not when they're old and rare. And admittedly, my wheel needs are also served by the glut of used stock out there. And I bow to your expertise.

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Based on some of the budgets you all have, buying an R/C car is a better option for you. Crying about prices when they are already cheap.

Too many people want instant gratification when it comes to car mods.

This is why Instagram created reels, and Facebook has shorts. For ya'll ADD car modders.

I think you misread me. I've owned 240SXs for literally 20 years

I'm a middle aged guy with money to spend. I like quality parts, I only buy quality parts. But I'm conservative on what I like to do with my car and I don't like change and I don't like to overspend.
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I think you misread me. I've owned 240SXs for literally 20 years

I'm a middle aged guy with money to spend. I like quality parts, I only buy quality parts. But I'm conservative on what I like to do with my car and I don't like change and I don't like to overspend.

$700 for OEM 5-lug swap is just 1-penny a day over 20 years. You can't afford 1-pennyna day to rock some hot-boi wheels instead of trash-spec?
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