PNW role call

[BoostyMcZface]

Nice little setup of cars there. I had my wrangler that I modified and sold, my 370z which isn't really custom but installed by me, and now the 240. Bigger and better every time. I really want to build a 240z one day, n/a stroker motor with ITBs. A buddy is doing a sick itb setup right now and it looks amazing. I want a simple, classic, fun to drive bottom up restoration car with a bit of oomph out of it. I came from 2 strokes, where porting and polishing and knife edged and balanced cranks and exhaust and etc make huge differences in their own way and combinations. All about flow at the right times

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[SoundEfx]

Any one of you guys ever been to Stew's Self service garage in Kirkland?

[BoostyMcZface]

Originally Posted by SoundEfx

Any one of you guys ever been to Stew's Self service garage in Kirkland?

if its the one im thinking of, yeah, pretty decent spot with decent tools and prices. btw what wheels were you gonna go with?

[SoundEfx]

I'm a 5 spoke type of person.

I have the Motegi MR116 on one car and I'm trying to get the TSW mirabeau for the 240. 18x8 front and 18x9 rear. This is ofcourse just for show.

Maybe one day I can be a baller like you and get some OZ's....lol

I'm trying to get more people to go to his 'shop'. To help each other with work on their car on a lift or just to hang out and chill.

[Clutch Dog]

Yeah my roomate has wanted a mk4 supra since the FnF films and at the age of 18 and fresh in the navy went out and got one. now he owns it at 25 and a honda accord hybrid ( thing will never get any tickets... we tried..) hes doing a light BPU build on it till we get the auto trans sorted out ( keeps burning up modified clutch packs..) i want to swap a 6l80e in with some diesel clutch packs but thats $$$$$$$$$together we want an AP2 NSX but thats a wet dream in thailand.. I'll get an FD someday but I like me Fc's alot and they are easier to come byand while we are wishing for things. i want a busty redhead gf..

[SoundEfx]

I loved the FD and MK4 long before F&F.

Red head? Everyone has their thing.
But honestly, if she's busty AND have a big booty, I don't care what colour hair she has.
I'll be in there like swin wear.....lol

[Clutch Dog]

Originally Posted by SoundEfx

I loved the FD and MK4 long before F&F.

Red head? Everyone has their thing.
But honestly, if she's busty AND have a big booty, I don't care what colour hair she has.
I'll be in there like swin wear.....lol

Lol yeah reds with freckles do me something nice, throw in a eastern-euro accent and im a puppy.
im not a big fan of a big booty though. i know its against culture but its just the way I am. oh man and shes gotta have dem legs for daaayyyyz man.

[BoostyMcZface]

I'll trade you my busty redhead gf for that MK4.

Srs. She'd be mad. but I'd be happy.

I've been debating ditching the Z and picking up a NSX or Supra or FD or something. They're just gonna skyrocket in price and the Z is dropping. It sounds smart. Or maybe I convince myself its smart. I need to win the lottery -_-

i like 5 spoke stuff too. i want a set of CCW classic 5's SO bad. and i got the CCWs on sale... under 1500 bucks. just need tires still... probably gonna throw some S04's on and call it a day

[SoundEfx]

The only reason why I would trade the Z for a supra or FD is because you can always get a Z back. They're new, plenty full and as you said, coming down in price.

For me, it's not about the value of the car, it's how much I enjoy driving them. So of all the cars I've owned, I've only sold 2 of them my entire life.

The CCW Classic's doesn't look bad, but those are baller rims and I'm no baller....lol

[Clutch Dog]

Youd be assuming shed be mad, because shes with me now.....
the z is going to keep plummetting in price due to the sheer numbers vs novelty about them, they have a huge aftermarket and are cool. but not as cool as the JDM God's of the 90's. the real value is finding a good car and keeping it 100% stock. thats hard to do with guys like uss

and to be fair I only buy cars ive thouroughly enjoyed as well, including the honda, now as far why i sold them..... I have my reasons/*because the car was totaled*cough

[SoundEfx]

I think that totalling a car is in a totally different league or reasoning. So fair enough.

I don't think that I can ever keep a car totally stock for two reasons.
One, I would never think of selling it, so there is no need to bring it back to stock.
Two, it's not in my blood. Can't stand stock except for that E46 M3. But it still wouldn't be stock for long.

Who was it that's also not too far from 425 motor sport? Was it you Clutch?

[BoostyMcZface]

the market is flooded with 30k range twin turbo Zs, which are more desirable than my blower setup, but with a part out I can get what those twin dudes are asking for, which is less than 10k price loss from when i bought it. the 370 is a great car, it just needs boost IMO. once boosted they're an AMAZING platform. but definitely not up to the coolness or rarity of the 90s JDM gods. A cleanly modified mk4 TT manual car, or similar category FD or NSX will become collectors. the Z is a long way off if it'll ever become one, though its a fairly low production car. you rarely see them, but definitely not as rare as the god 90s cars.

we'll see what happens. i cant keep anything stock. that's why i bought a FWD car..so i wouldn't mod it.. and i hated fwd so much i sold it to modify the 240. Lol i have issues i think. MUST MODIFY. MUST GO FASTS

[SoundEfx]

Well you'll call me crazy, or even stupid, because one of my cars is a turbo charged, FWD, AUTOMATIC car.......lol.....lol.
It's one of my 'unique' cars for mostly show, but it has some go to it. Don't ask what R&D costs for that transmission to hold up against the power...

I don't think that the new Z's will be labeled as collectables like the old ones, but as you said, time will tell.

I would NEVER get rid of a blower. Just look at the chargers for a KA, they are hard to come by. They wouldn't make as much power compared to a turbo, but to me, it's more of a novelty.

I guess I dream too much.

[SoundEfx]

Clutch, were you in a white Supra on Willows Road yesterday evening heading towards Kirkland?

I was going the opposite direction, towards Redmond, when I saw the MK4 and almost crashed because I stared at it so damn hard.....lol

[Clutch Dog]

Sound,

Im in the middle of the pacific ocean staring down Russian Frigates and flipping off the chinese fuckers who came in uninvited..

and the supra we have at the house is a Black supra with the rare CF TRD wing, its pretty lowkey

and I think 425 motorsports is based in tacoma iirc which is near me, im up in the silverdale area, between bremerton and port orchard mostly.



The GODS OF SPEED HATH SMILED UPON YOUR HUMBLE SERVANT!
I found a guy selling a KA-DE block with manual transmission for 350 bucks, regardless of the condition of the trans and engine i happily pounced on that. now the question is.

OEM rebuild the manual engine, or modifiy it lightly and swap it in NA with the trans, and rebuild the current engine for boost later this winter when i get the supercharger kit completed...then with the current engine being pulled out. OEM rebuild it and sell it? or try some swanky shade tree garage mods and port the head out with some cams and swap it back in next year and try for 15 psi outta the 'charger

[BoostyMcZface]

lol I just don't prefer FWD.. can be fun to drive, the ST was fun, but I've owned mostly RWD and AWD and I just like how they handle and put power down. I just hate the Honda scene, not all FWD in general lol

the Z market is weird. they released too many Nismo models and saturated the market and they're not that special engine or suspension wise.. the heavily optioned ones are actually harder to find. my blower isn't factory, but isn't made anymore since the company went bankrupt. but its lightyears ahead of the only other blower setup available, made by stillen, which just is a poor design. the twin turbo options make the best power at the lowest PSI, but are usually plagued with heat issues and cost 20k or so installed and tuned with supporting mods. blah

oh dirty Russians and Chinese... lol sounds like you're having fun. I say port and charge and make all the powers. if you're gonna rebuild, you might as well get a little crazy with it lol

[Clutch Dog]

Im actually going to do the opposite. I kept looking at my rebuild sheet and it was creeping near 2 grand no matter what I wanted to do. So Ive concluded to focus on swapping the rebuilt trans into the car with the current motor ( which is still semi good) and take my time rebuilding the motor it came with. I couldnt justify putting in cams and pistons and porting job on a stock ecu, which is really what it comes all down to. this also gives me the chance to really take my time with the supercharger kit itself and getting headers sized up and all that.

so this fall Ill be focusing on installing my z32 brakes and dual rears, and doing the manual swap, and leaving it for now

[SoundEfx]

Oh ok. Well there is a which supra that always around me, making me depressed that I don't have one....lol

It looks like everyone in the PNW on here is scattered.

Congrats on the KA find. I need to find one, but wouldn't have any where to keep it.

ZFace, I hear you with the fwd and the Honda hatred. I have an Acura and I HATE the Honda scene too. Because if I hear v-tec one more damn time, I swear, I'll stab a platypus.....lol

[Clutch Dog]

Anyone have a set of 248 cams from a 91-93 KA?.....

long story short, I might be trying to DSP race this car in next years SCCA races, ditching the supercharger idea for a while. ( supercharging an NA engine puts you into the EM/DM class)

[Clutch Dog]

derpends if it's a white supra auto, or a manual targa. i know one of them with the auto, its.... a piece, hes trying to sell it for 18k and its worth maybe 12,

[SoundEfx]

There was one on sale on craigslist for $13, so it might be that?

I have a 248 cam. I bought it while I had a boosted KA, but never put it in.
BUT, I don't know anything about them or a KA, so I have no idea whether or not they are actual S13 cams.

Would you be able to tell from looking at them?

[Clutch Dog]

Could not tell from looking Id have to measure the lobes...

gonna try to put in a hot cam 248/240 into the beast.

might be selling this supercharger kit.... I read INDEPTH about pro-solo SCCA racing and to meet the street prepared I cannot run any sort of power adder. so... NA-KA build?

might be selling it.

[SoundEfx]

But isn't the 248 / 232 the 'best' set up for a KA?
There is a thread some where on the various cam combos for the KA and which one worked the best.

That's the only reason why I am / was a little hesitant in selling them / it.

[Clutch Dog]

I dont know. Im gonna take these cam specs I got from the site to my hot rod buddy and talk to him about the idea NA overlap./ the 248/248 cam swap should net the highest peak power, which is good for an itb revving machine, but the 240 cam looks more enticing than the 232

I currently have a 91 s13 block and my 96 in the car so the cams I have should be 232/232 and 240/248 so I have some options. Ive been reading most the "hot cam" google results for the KA and really havent come up with a decisive answer. so it's back to the math board for seeing which one mathematically is best. that said Im not aiming for a drop in power, so losing some low end for a higher rpm band is more ideal for auto-x and short tracking

[SoundEfx]

Oh ok. I think that 248 / 232 was for more low end power.

This is the thread I found about cam specs:
http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/ka...ade-guide.html

This one is the cam comparisons:
http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=129780

If you don't mind sharing, let me know what you come up with because I was hell set on the 248 / 232 setup. With some help because I have no clue what I'm doing....lol

[Clutch Dog]

Same here, I spent the entire morning reading about oh this works, oh this doesnt work. im going to share what I came up with. the idea with the cam swap is to move the power band up though, but not really super high. i want useable rpm even if i dont make as much power at 7500. the gearing in auto-x as well as usable rpm makes the difference of revving it out on a straight vs shifting.

ive even looked at attempting the 248/248 swap but i read that it loses power everywhere but it ramps up as the rpms climb because it lost so much power down low

[SoundEfx]

Yeh, I never really liked revving the engine to red line to get the most power. I know it sounds weird, but if red line is 8K, I would the max power to be around 6.5 - 7 K. In my mind, it's less wear and tear on the engine while still getting the most out of it.

Well, you have time, so put in those cams and dyno the car. That way you'll know for sure which combo works the best.

[Clutch Dog]

Time sure. What matters though is getting it all dialed in. 248/248 might be the best option with the proper fueling mix too. alotta 240 guys just want bolt in no tune options. we will see how it all works. right now my biggest pain is that engine and trans i picked up was for an obd1 s13, so im trying to figure out the best way of getting the obd1 trans on the obd2 car

[SoundEfx]

Yip, people tend to forget about the tune. Some Honda 'guys' don't even want to change their injectors.....lol

What's the difference between the trans? It's a manual trans right?

[Clutch Dog]

Its a manual trans, but the obd2 s14 came with a crank angle position sensor used for start up? I believe. Im not sure why its there outside when running it prevents misfires. the s13 is physically the same in everyway minus the sensor there.