General politics discussion. Keep it civil.

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by feito

yall following the mostly peaceful pro hamas protest around the country?

come on bro, you're so hateful. have some empathy.

Originally Posted by SupaDoopa

We aren't going to be anything. We are fucked.

life is what you make it. we are all to blame for being asleep at the wheel and letting the radicals control the levels of power. they even proudly wear the shirts (and rightfully so) saying "dont get mad, get elected"

[SupaDoopa]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

come on bro, you're so hateful. have some empathy.




life is what you make it. we are all to blame for being asleep at the wheel and letting the radicals control the levels of power. they even proudly wear the shirts (and rightfully so) saying "dont get mad, get elected"

'Letting' them? You're more naive than the sheep if you think that we as the public body elects anyone. Please see previously released videos of people stuffing ballot boxes and the ironic burning down of the company that was involved with the electronic machines from last election.

The fact this shit goes untested and we don't have an BULLETPROOF, FACTUAL, ACCURATE system is why politics no longer interest me. Why get behind a candidate, invest in their plans, and get excited for the future when it's all for nothing?

C'mon, man. I expected more from you.

[ixfxi]

i was referring to local politics to be specific, if it makes any difference to you.

i both, agree and disagree with you - but dont think the differences are worth quibbling over. there are plenty of people in local politics that as a sum can make a big difference.

[SupaDoopa]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

i was referring to local politics to be specific, if it makes any difference to you.

i both, agree and disagree with you - but don't think the differences are worth quibbling over. there are plenty of people in local politics that as a sum can make a big difference.

I agree that local politics can make an impact in a community, but on the grand scheme of things, I think of politics as a plant that thrives in corruption and sketchy activity. In the local communities such as school board or selectman, you're a small seed in a fertilized pot being watered with backdoor deals and corruption. As you get more into state politics, you're a budding plant developing fruit and nutrients that feeds those below you. As you further grow and branch out, you move up the ranks.

Long story short, it's VERY rare to get a rogue, independent, TRUTHFUL, respectful, honest politician. They do exist but they're dwarfed by the masses of other shit heads working harder to fuck us than help us for their own benefit.

[ixfxi]

Too all of us political ranters and banters, I hope everyone had a great thanksgiving and spent it with family.

[SupaDoopa]

Agreed - and a preemptive strike on saying I hope y'all have a safe, warm, loving holiday season and happy new year.

[Future240]

I hope all of you have a wonderful holiday.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...p/71572499007/

No, people worry about the lack of charging stations and battery life, surveys show. Seventy-seven percent and 73%, respectively, Ipsos said.

Overall, 57% of respondents said they were not likely to purchase either a fully electric or plug-in hybrid the next time they purchase a vehicle and 11% said they didn?t know, Ipsos said.

Interesting how the left side of the aisle seems crazy about pushing EV's on everyone. For those who want them plug in hybrids seems to be the best of both worlds vs fulll EV.

[Corbic]

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/1...lions-00129996

Congress at the urging of the Biden administration agreed in 2021 to spend $7.5 billion to build tens of thousands of electric vehicle chargers across the country, aiming to appease anxious drivers while tackling climate change.

Two years later, the program has yet to install a single charger.

[Phlip]

Kevin McCarthy resignation... Anyone have THAT one on their 2023 Bingo card?

[SupaDoopa]

Originally Posted by Phlip

Kevin McCarthy resignation... Anyone have THAT one on their 2023 Bingo card?

Saw it coming. Not surprised by at means, just disappointed. The aftermath will definitely hurt others in his state. His statement saying he's gone but still fighting is kind of silly as he now has no power to fight any real battle anymore - unless this is him preparing to do something a little more serious in the years to come? Who knows.

[ixfxi]

Is it still Pride month?

[Future240]

I'm shocked no one has mention CO getting Trump off the Ballots. No way this does not head to Scotus.

[thermogod]

Originally Posted by Future240

I'm shocked no one has mention CO getting Trump off the Ballots. No way this does not head to Scotus.

I have however seen people mention that Biden should also come off the ballot in some states. can anyone point me to actual reasoning/evidence as to why? is there some huge scandal I'm missing? did he throw a Jan 6th etc etc etc....?

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by Future240

I'm shocked no one has mention CO getting Trump off the Ballots. No way this does not head to Scotus.

Its been and continues to be political persecution. And these are all smear tactics at trying to ruin his reputation. None of this is going to stick. Not the legal cases or trying to remove him from a ballot.

In the end, all this does is further piss off society. People who dislike him hate him even more, they think he's "teflon don" and above the law. And those that like him, support him even more.

Originally Posted by thermogod

I have however seen people mention that Biden should also come off the ballot in some states. can anyone point me to actual reasoning/evidence as to why? is there some huge scandal I'm missing? did he throw a Jan 6th etc etc etc....?

Forget removal from the ballots. His handling of the border combined with Ukraine and our economy, he should be put in prison for treason.

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by thermogod

I have however seen people mention that Biden should also come off the ballot in some states. can anyone point me to actual reasoning/evidence as to why? is there some huge scandal I'm missing? did he throw a Jan 6th etc etc etc....?

I mean surely there is some evidence with which to impeach him post-haste, right?
RIGHT?!!?






[Narrator: alas, there is no convictable evidence]

[ixfxi]

Burisma....

[thermogod]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

Its been and continues to be political persecution. And these are all smear tactics at trying to ruin his reputation. None of this is going to stick. Not the legal cases or trying to remove him from a ballot.

In the end, all this does is further piss off society. People who dislike him hate him even more, they think he's "teflon don" and above the law. And those that like him, support him even more.




Forget removal from the ballots. His handling of the border combined with Ukraine and our economy, he should be put in prison for treason.

genuinely curious, i'm only trying to understand both sides here. looks like both Colorado and Maine's District Attorneys' legal cases stuck, and he's off the ballot in both states.

for Biden, what part of how he's handled the border or Ukraine constitutes treason? sorry. not saying you're wrong. just wondering.

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by thermogod

genuinely curious, i'm only trying to understand both sides here. looks like both Colorado and Maine's District Attorneys' legal cases stuck, and he's off the ballot in both states.

for Biden, what part of how he's handled the border or Ukraine constitutes treason? sorry. not saying you're wrong. just wondering.

First answer here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-MYy2lrxqs

Second answer, is do your own research on the border. this man's job is to keep us secure. if the border is not secure, then he's not doing his job. They can distort the words and call illegal aliens migrants, but this is what they do best. They take words and use them incorrectly. They call homeless vagrants "unhoused people" .... whatever. Once you learn the game that they're playing, it all makes sense. People in government.... in positions of power with bad intentions.

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

Burisma....

So, in other words, nothing.
Burisma, like everything else Comer and Jordan have tried.

Biden is STILL not my first choice and frankly none of the other (non)options excite me, but impeachment without any provable evidence is an ABSOLUTE waste of resources better spent elsewhere.
"We have corroborating evidence if you'd just trust us and let us impeach" smacks of the same evidence-deficient nonsense we were forced to listen to after the election that has now cost Fox News $687m and Giuliani $148m.

I have no faith in people bent on parroting the same lies for no other reason than to remain in power. Evidence would change my perspective.

[ixfxi]

You do realize that ALL of these political figures, regardless if any of us like them or dislike them, are above the law. You understand this, right?

Biden is not your first choice? Do tell... who do you love?

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by Phlip

So, in other words, nothing.
Burisma, like everything else Comer and Jordan have tried.

https://rumble.com/v44p8f3-jean-pier...orruption.html

Oh snap, just because she says its true.... IT MUST BE TRUE. haha

[Future240]

Biden vs Trump....again......sigh.

Who’s Running for President in 2024?

Democrats
Biden
Williamson
Phillips

Republicans
Trump
Haley
Binkley
DeSantis

[deolio]

Vote Taylor Swift 2024

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by Future240

Biden vs Trump....again......sigh.

Who?s Running for President in 2024?

Democrats
Biden
Williamson
Phillips

Republicans
Trump
Haley
Binkley
DeSantis

DeWHO? AFUERA!
RamiWHAT? AFUERA!

Still crickets from the Democrats. How long till they put Biden out to pasture and creep in Big Mike.

Pushing Biden another 4 is like driving a car with no brakes, bald tires, a radiator full of stop leak, engine thats knocking, check engine light AND gas light is on "E"

[Corbic]

When's it time to start the 2024 Candidate Wagers?

Trump or Haley for the GOP?

Biden, Harris or Newsome for the DNC?

Would be a brilliant move to have Biden step down last minute do to health and replaced by someone like Newsome.

Who's rooting for Texas? Amazing how blocking 2.2 Miles of boarder has caused such butthurt for DNC. Pretty blatant the Boarder Patrol / ICE exist solely to process illegal entry into the US.

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Who's rooting for Texas? Amazing how blocking 2.2 Miles of boarder has caused such butthurt for DNC. Pretty blatant the Boarder Patrol / ICE exist solely to process illegal entry into the US.

who's rooting for texas? anyone who considers themselves an american. who isnt? anarchists, communists, antifa, lefty extremists, etc.

its really nice to see a new generation of people who are starting to wake up and pay attention:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XKgcz6QQyo

there is a lot of hope in all this chaos

[ixfxi]

What happened to all the lefties on Zilvia? All of a sudden so quiet. Almost as if they're scurrying trying to figure out where to find a new candidate or how to manipulate the next election.

James Okeefe dropping hot fire with his gay Clark Kent undercover costume.... its really amazing how some people could be this naive:

https://rumble.com/v4ajuaf-top-white...about-bid.html

https://rumble.com/v492r1o-d.c.-swam...blackmail.html

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

What happened to all the lefties on Zilvia? All of a sudden so quiet.

To busy hiding from all the Cali Crime and Take Overs.

[deolio]

People saying "if Trump gets elected again it'll break the country," which is a tempting offer, but I think I'll stick with my protest vote M.O. Either way the American electoral process will take an L.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Originally Posted by Corbic

To busy hiding from all the Cali Crime and Take Overs.

Nah, I just got tired of talking to myself.

That's all we ever do in here, right? Masturbatory statements in either direction, achieving nothing.

Joe Biden's old and senile, Donald Trump's a pants-shitting rapist liar. It's sad that our best choice is to vote for the old senile guy because the alternative is electing a pants-shitting rapist liar for a second time. One would like to write "fucked, innit?" as a candidate but needs to vote against the pants-shitting rapist liar.

The newest Culture War derailed discourse so severely that it's going to take a solid generation to unfuck... after which we'll be behind in literally everything.

No pol's willing to try to fix immigration the proper way, no pol's willing to fix gun control and crime the proper way, no pol's willing to fix cities the proper way.

Broad strokes have never been fixes, only band-aids. Republicans don't want to fund fixes of any kind, liberals are scared of the depth and breadth of the required fixes and their effect on their careers in politics (and in business), real progressives aren't going to get anywhere or last more than one term against enemies like the preceding.

Do you have any idea how much time it takes to get to the bottom of an issue, identify all the possible contributing factors, drill through those to their contributing factors, then disassemble it all against a backdrop of existing laws and regulations? Every single fucking issue in the United States is hundreds if not thousands of pages of history, graphs, charts, and legal filings- and that's only the objective side of things. The subjective also matters, the heart of certain issues is the best way to also get society to move forward and reduce spending and complexity.

It all sucks. We expect competence and we get The Real Housewives instead, everyone competing for sound bites and screen time. And you wonder why the lefties stopped posting...