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ProjectGarage · 10-08-2009, 12:57 AM

I basicall need the exact opposite of this

Does that even exist or am i going to have to start making them? I want to run my stock fpr on an aftermarket high flow fuel rail such as the Yamato Garage or the Circuit sports unit.

Benjamin · 10-08-2009, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ProjectGarage

I basicall need the exact opposite of this

GSXRJJordan · 10-08-2009, 02:33 AM

Hahaha, nice.

No, you don't want to run your stock FPR. It sucks even at OEM flow levels, much less a high flow fuel pump/rail combo.

If you're baller enough for a -6an fuel rail, you should protect your investment/sanity and get a reputable FPR. Aeromotive is good, Sard is good, Nismo is generally not the best, FuelLab is new but has gotten great reviews. Real FPRs start at ~$100.

rc1honda · 10-08-2009, 01:38 PM

I use -6 line w/ a JGY fuel rail. Looks good and does a great job. If i were you i would get a good FPR. I had a SARD that broke on me so i just went with a Aeromotive one, if you going to do it, do it right and do it all. While your at it BigEnd makes a -6 AN billet fuel filter to that looks good with the setup and flows good. I love it.

GSXRJJordan · 10-08-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rc1honda

I use -6 line w/ a JGY fuel rail. Looks good and does a great job. If i were you i would get a good FPR. I had a SARD that broke on me so i just went with a Aeromotive one, if you going to do it, do it right and do it all. While your at it BigEnd makes a -6 AN billet fuel filter to that looks good with the setup and flows good. I love it.

That reminds me! Fuel filters are key, and most of the -6an stuff you find is either not a real fuel filter (it's a pre-filter) or else it doesn't screen small enough!

The best value I found is a Fram HPG-1. It's a paper replaceable element, screens to 10 microns, and has a very low pressure drop - all for ~$50.

Pegasus - Fram HPG-1 Hi Performance Gas Filter

ProjectGarage · 10-08-2009, 07:34 PM

Im going to be keeping the boost stock. I need a new rail and would like to replace the FPR as well. Im already getting new stock size injectors. I wouldnt mind running a high flow rail and probably a tomei FPR, the only thing im worried about is can i make it run like stock with these two parts. Or should i just get a new OEM rail and FPR?

ProjectGarage · 10-08-2009, 08:08 PM

Im going to be replacing my Injectors, Fuel rail and Fuel pressure regulator.

Ill be using this fuel rail

With Deatschwerks 370cc injectors (stock size)

And also ill be using a Tomei FPR

So from my understanding if i adjust the Fuel pressure to 43.5 psi (without the vacuum line plugged into the fpr) it should run like stock? Even with the high flow rail? Im not doing anything high hp and im running stock boost, I need to replace my fuel rail and figure id rather get this sexy one than another stock one. So will it run richer because of the rail or does the rail not matter and its all based on injector size/fuel pressure?

GSXRJJordan · 10-08-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ProjectGarage

Im going to be keeping the boost stock. I need a new rail and would like to replace the FPR as well. Im already getting new stock size injectors. I wouldnt mind running a high flow rail and probably a tomei FPR, the only thing im worried about is can i make it run like stock with these two parts. Or should i just get a new OEM rail and FPR?

If you're keeping everything stock, you should just get another stock fuel rail/stock FPR. Going -6an lines will cost a ton more, and you won't gain anything from it.

GSXRJJordan · 10-08-2009, 08:53 PM

If you set it for 43psi, it will run like stock.

Like I said in your other thread, you should just stick to stock and save the $hundreds.

Om1kron · 10-08-2009, 08:58 PM

lol what in the hell for if you're not upgrading everything else. And don't use douche works injectors.

ProjectGarage · 10-08-2009, 09:02 PM

i need new injectors deatschewerks are the best for their money unless you know of another company that sells 370s for the same pricing. The reason im replacing all this stuff is because i need a new fuel rail a new fpr and new injectors so i figure why not buy baller parts in that field like i have with everything else so far.

garagelu · 10-08-2009, 09:11 PM

370's? just get oem sr20 injectors. oem is better than anything out there ad cheaper too. You can get a set for about 100 dollars.

^fraktal^ · 10-08-2009, 10:56 PM

i know you made 2 threads for this basically. you don't need a fpr fitting for that fuel rail. that's the circuit sports rail right...? it already comes with all the fittings you need. they even show them in the other frsport pics where you obviously linked it from!

ProjectGarage · 10-09-2009, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by garagelu

370's? just get oem sr20 injectors. oem is better than anything out there ad cheaper too. You can get a set for about 100 dollars.

Yeah but they are not brand new.

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i know you made 2 threads for this basically. you don't need a fpr fitting for that fuel rail. that's the circuit sports rail right...? it already comes with all the fittings you need. they even show them in the other frsport pics where you obviously linked it from!

Yes they show the fittings you need to run an external FPR however my interest went to running that fuel rail with the stock "on rail" FPR. I basically want baller ass parts but i want it to run like stock or a little bit better. I am not looking to raise the boost or anything i just want good quality parts used for the fueling system.

ProjectGarage · 10-09-2009, 02:15 AM

I basically want to run the circuit sports rail without the -6an lines since it comes with the regular fittings too. What i was wondering is if there was a way to hook up the stock FPR to that rail or if i can use an aftermarket FPR but still have it run like stock just have baller ass quality parts on it.

GSXRJJordan · 10-09-2009, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ProjectGarage

I basically want to run the circuit sports rail without the -6an lines since it comes with the regular fittings too. What i was wondering is if there was a way to hook up the stock FPR to that rail or if i can use an aftermarket FPR but still have it run like stock just have baller ass quality parts on it.

NO. Buy another stock fuel rail with stock injectors for like $100, and stop trying to 'be baller' with your stock-ass parts.

ericb382 · 10-09-2009, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ProjectGarage

Yeah but they are not brand new.

Used oem injectors will be more reliable than Deatschwerks

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Originally Posted by ProjectGarage

I basically want baller ass parts but i want it to run like stock or a little bit better. I am not looking to raise the boost or anything i just want good quality parts used for the fueling system.

By this if you mean that you just want to throw your money down the toilet with no difference whatsoever go right ahead.... OEM nissan parts are "good quality parts."

nsn240 · 10-09-2009, 09:34 AM

^thank you.

Stock FPR's are not baller. Neither are stock sidefeeds, AN lines or CS rails.

Dousan_PG · 10-09-2009, 09:42 AM

amen brother!

ProjectGarage · 10-09-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ericb382

Used oem injectors will be more reliable than Deatschwerks

By this if you mean that you just want to throw your money down the toilet with no difference whatsoever go right ahead.... OEM nissan parts are "good quality parts."

Yeah nissan parts are definitely great quality. I would use a brand new stock rail and brand new stock fpr if i it didnt take months to get the fpr. I just want to know that the parts are going to last.

Are Deatschwerks really not good injectors? Ive heard alot of good reviews on their stuff.

ProjectGarage · 10-09-2009, 10:09 AM

I agree, Im not trying to be baller with stock parts lol im trying to get "baller quality" parts which i know circuit sports is not which is why i may go with the Yamato one instead. Anyways I keep hearing more and more people talk shit about Deatschwerks injectors.. Whats the deal with that?

s13 @ fullboost · 10-09-2009, 10:11 AM

Sard** Nuff said

bejota180sx · 10-09-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ProjectGarage

I just want to know that the parts are going to last.

your engine has had those parts since it came out of the dealer and were still working until recently (i guess, if your changing them) i think that proves the lasting time of a oem part...

om3ga · 10-09-2009, 01:23 PM

Yeah sard is good i know that tomei is as well ill be using the tomei fpr for my setup

om3ga · 10-09-2009, 01:24 PM

Ive heard good things about the tomei fpr

rebornS14 · 10-09-2009, 09:10 PM

id rather get DW injectors than RC crap

ProjectGarage · 10-10-2009, 05:14 AM

I keep hearing that z32 injectors are the same?? Im wondering if i can just buy them from a local parts store or what i should do? Its looking like im getting either DW or idk yet haha.

nsn240 · 10-10-2009, 06:21 AM

sr20 and z32 are both 370cc injectors.

Again, buy a set of injectors off the for sale section for $100 and call it a day.

ProjectGarage · 10-10-2009, 04:33 PM

I need to get some 370cc injectors for my SR i want to buy them brand new but the actual SR injectors from nissan take about 3 months to get. So the only 370 replacements ive found are the DW ones. I need some feedback before buying them.

Thanks

projectRDM · 10-10-2009, 04:43 PM

Seriously?

Tons of people use them. Tons.

10-08-2009, 12:57 AM	#1
ProjectGarage Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ProjectGarage's Fuel rail questions, now in 1 thread... I basicall need the exact opposite of this Does that even exist or am i going to have to start making them? I want to run my stock fpr on an aftermarket high flow fuel rail such as the Yamato Garage or the Circuit sports unit.

10-08-2009, 02:33 AM	#3
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Hahaha, nice. No, you don't want to run your stock FPR. It sucks even at OEM flow levels, much less a high flow fuel pump/rail combo. If you're baller enough for a -6an fuel rail, you should protect your investment/sanity and get a reputable FPR. Aeromotive is good, Sard is good, Nismo is generally not the best, FuelLab is new but has gotten great reviews. Real FPRs start at ~$100. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

10-08-2009, 08:08 PM	#7
ProjectGarage Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Installing a high flow fuel rail and aftermarket fpr (SR related) Im going to be replacing my Injectors, Fuel rail and Fuel pressure regulator. Ill be using this fuel rail With Deatschwerks 370cc injectors (stock size) And also ill be using a Tomei FPR So from my understanding if i adjust the Fuel pressure to 43.5 psi (without the vacuum line plugged into the fpr) it should run like stock? Even with the high flow rail? Im not doing anything high hp and im running stock boost, I need to replace my fuel rail and figure id rather get this sexy one than another stock one. So will it run richer because of the rail or does the rail not matter and its all based on injector size/fuel pressure?

10-08-2009, 08:53 PM	#9
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	If you set it for 43psi, it will run like stock. Like I said in your other thread, you should just stick to stock and save the $hundreds. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

10-08-2009, 08:58 PM	#10
Om1kron Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Granada Hills, CA Age: 43 Posts: 6,990 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	lol what in the hell for if you're not upgrading everything else. And don't use douche works injectors. __________________ Wayne Edwards https://om1kron.blogspot.com

10-08-2009, 01:38 PM	#4
rc1honda Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chicago Age: 42 Posts: 433 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I use -6 line w/ a JGY fuel rail. Looks good and does a great job. If i were you i would get a good FPR. I had a SARD that broke on me so i just went with a Aeromotive one, if you going to do it, do it right and do it all. While your at it BigEnd makes a -6 AN billet fuel filter to that looks good with the setup and flows good. I love it.

10-08-2009, 07:34 PM	#6
ProjectGarage Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Im going to be keeping the boost stock. I need a new rail and would like to replace the FPR as well. Im already getting new stock size injectors. I wouldnt mind running a high flow rail and probably a tomei FPR, the only thing im worried about is can i make it run like stock with these two parts. Or should i just get a new OEM rail and FPR?

10-08-2009, 09:02 PM	#11
ProjectGarage Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i need new injectors deatschewerks are the best for their money unless you know of another company that sells 370s for the same pricing. The reason im replacing all this stuff is because i need a new fuel rail a new fpr and new injectors so i figure why not buy baller parts in that field like i have with everything else so far.

10-08-2009, 09:11 PM	#12
garagelu Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 39 Posts: 1,856 Trader Rating: (60) Feedback Score: 60 reviews	370's? just get oem sr20 injectors. oem is better than anything out there ad cheaper too. You can get a set for about 100 dollars.

10-08-2009, 10:56 PM	#13
^fraktal^ Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Seattle Age: 41 Posts: 223 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	i know you made 2 threads for this basically. you don't need a fpr fitting for that fuel rail. that's the circuit sports rail right...? it already comes with all the fittings you need. they even show them in the other frsport pics where you obviously linked it from!

10-09-2009, 02:15 AM	#15
ProjectGarage Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I basically want to run the circuit sports rail without the -6an lines since it comes with the regular fittings too. What i was wondering is if there was a way to hook up the stock FPR to that rail or if i can use an aftermarket FPR but still have it run like stock just have baller ass quality parts on it.

10-09-2009, 09:34 AM	#18
nsn240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: pa Posts: 642 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^thank you. Stock FPR's are not baller. Neither are stock sidefeeds, AN lines or CS rails.

10-09-2009, 09:42 AM	#19
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10-09-2009, 10:09 AM	#21
ProjectGarage Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I agree, Im not trying to be baller with stock parts lol im trying to get "baller quality" parts which i know circuit sports is not which is why i may go with the Yamato one instead. Anyways I keep hearing more and more people talk shit about Deatschwerks injectors.. Whats the deal with that?

10-09-2009, 10:11 AM	#22
s13 @ fullboost Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: St.Petersburg,FL Posts: 2,549 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	Sard** Nuff said __________________

10-09-2009, 01:23 PM	#24
om3ga Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Up and Down! California Posts: 878 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Yeah sard is good i know that tomei is as well ill be using the tomei fpr for my setup Last edited by om3ga; 10-09-2009 at 06:50 PM..

10-09-2009, 01:24 PM	#25
om3ga Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Up and Down! California Posts: 878 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Ive heard good things about the tomei fpr Last edited by om3ga; 10-09-2009 at 06:47 PM..

10-09-2009, 09:10 PM	#26
rebornS14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cerritos, CA Posts: 1,358 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	id rather get DW injectors than RC crap

10-10-2009, 05:14 AM	#27
ProjectGarage Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I keep hearing that z32 injectors are the same?? Im wondering if i can just buy them from a local parts store or what i should do? Its looking like im getting either DW or idk yet haha.

10-10-2009, 06:21 AM	#28
nsn240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: pa Posts: 642 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	sr20 and z32 are both 370cc injectors. Again, buy a set of injectors off the for sale section for $100 and call it a day.

10-10-2009, 04:33 PM	#29
ProjectGarage Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Anyone using Deatschwerks injectors? I need to get some 370cc injectors for my SR i want to buy them brand new but the actual SR injectors from nissan take about 3 months to get. So the only 370 replacements ive found are the DW ones. I need some feedback before buying them. Thanks

10-10-2009, 04:43 PM	#30
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 50 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Seriously? Tons of people use them. Tons. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com