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FullRaceGeoff · 02-22-2010, 12:42 PM

here are a few more from last week

^^^eliminated the bushing, spherical bearings everywhere!

^^^aluminum knuckle, modified lower shock mount and toe link mount

^^^upper shock mounts

I just pulled 2.5 days of straight fabrication with YouTube- Test Footage - Paper Planes we got the vmount and entire front end really dialed, its unreal im sooo pumped on it... can not post pics until completed. you guys will love it, especially with the bumper cover off :devil:

FullRaceGeoff · 02-24-2010, 11:33 PM

so i just got the entire rear subframe finished, SPL aluminum bushings + RUCAs, adj tractionrods and toe rods, and the knuckles posted above. Skullworks sphericals in the uprights - not a single bushing in the entire rear susp.

I really wanted to post it up on NRR New S14 bumpsteer graphs - Page 5 - Nissan Road Racing Forums but i am not able to post -- does anyone know a moderator over there that can fix my screen name full-race geoff? thanks

didderson · 02-25-2010, 12:42 AM

This build is delicious!
Most of this thread people can only dream about.

veilside180sx · 02-25-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by FullRaceGeoff

so i just got the entire rear subframe finished, SPL aluminum bushings + RUCAs, adj tractionrods and toe rods, and the knuckles posted above. Skullworks sphericals in the uprights - not a single bushing in the entire rear susp.

I really wanted to post it up on NRR New S14 bumpsteer graphs - Page 5 - Nissan Road Racing Forums but i am not able to post -- does anyone know a moderator over there that can fix my screen name full-race geoff? thanks

Must've never received your activation email, or it typically gets moved to the spam box.

PM sent

Highway Riding · 03-03-2010, 11:18 AM

Just saw this on speedhunters... Totally digging this build.. +1 keep up the good work!

MAGAZINE BLOG: MODIFIED>> FULL RACE R14 MODIFIED TUNER SHOOTOUT - Speedhunters

tricky_ab · 03-03-2010, 02:18 PM

Good luck with the Modified magazine shootout!

VNG704 · 03-03-2010, 02:37 PM

ummm, wow. Good stuff here. Thanks for sharing and good luck.

Swerv13 · 03-03-2010, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FullRaceGeoff

i LOVE that car... just cant get used to the rear bumper lol although its straight up nascar:

you need to understand nascar technology is atleast 10 years behind any other racing tech. the highcut rear bodywork has been used on gt cars for years. please do us all a favor and ignore nascar, let alone even comparing to it. OTHERWISE! keep up the good work and I hope for all the success possible in your car. doin great!

dongoesby · 03-03-2010, 08:16 PM

agree with said above, keep it zenki or go kouki, please don't go s15 (front and tail don't match)

kouki would definitely make the stance a lot more aggressive!

if you must, here's a kicker

although i still like Exceed Moat S14 the BEST!!

2Fass240us · 03-03-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FullRaceGeoff

2fast240us ftmfw!!!!!!!! scored some spherical upright bearings, thank you thank you thank you

Dude, my pleasure. I always like helping other racers. Drifters, on the other hand...

If you ever get the urge, I'll take some of those S14 rear lower arms. OK, maybe just some "street cred points" on the board.

Best of luck in the shootout,
Andy

codyace · 03-03-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Swerv13

you need to understand nascar technology is atleast 10 years behind any other racing tech. the highcut rear bodywork has been used on gt cars for years. please do us all a favor and ignore nascar, let alone even comparing to it. OTHERWISE! keep up the good work and I hope for all the success possible in your car. doin great!

Um, you do realize Nascar is on the cutting edge of many other technologies riggt? Just because it looks like some random GT (which is a generalzied statement from any racing body) doesn't mean its' the same.

Nascar tech, mostly engine tech, is incredible. 9000 RPM on pushrods, at WOT, for 500 miles...OMG that's nuts. Most stock SR's would explode at 10 miles of WOT lol. The stresses the NASCAR motors absorb and take is darn near equal to the top fuelers of NHRA. Not even F1 comes close. Sure they don't use the 'highest mechanical E' tech out there ,but whats to say that intricate fancy shit is better?

9000+ rpm
700+ hp
big ass bores, shor tstrokes
500 mph of darn near WOT

get back to me when you can design a motor to withstand that kind of abuse.

Cliffs: Just becaus you think its' some redneck junk, doesn't mean it is. There is a BUNCH of tech in those cars.

codyace · 03-03-2010, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dongoesby

agree with said above, keep it zenki or go kouki, please don't go s15 (front and tail don't match)

kouki would definitely make the stance a lot more aggressive!

Just because it looks race, doesn't mean it races well. Just food for thought.

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Originally Posted by dongoesby

although i still like Exceed Moat S14 the BEST!!

While the 'Exceed Moat' cars are fast, lets also not dimiss their HUGE HP difference over similar powered cars. HP is a huge advantage in this 'league of cars'.

Maximamike · 03-03-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Swerv13

you need to understand nascar technology is atleast 10 years behind any other racing tech. the highcut rear bodywork has been used on gt cars for years. please do us all a favor and ignore nascar, let alone even comparing to it.

Are you serious?

dongoesby · 03-03-2010, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by codyace

Just because it looks race, doesn't mean it races well. Just food for thought.

While the 'Exceed Moat' cars are fast, lets also not dimiss their HUGE HP difference over similar powered cars. HP is a huge advantage in this 'league of cars'.

Cody, please read forward, Geoff is asking opinion for the look previously, nothing else.

codyace · 03-04-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dongoesby

Cody, please read forward, Geoff is asking opinion for the look previously, nothing else.

Wow I totally read that wrong last night, my apologies brother!

jspaeth · 03-05-2010, 06:13 AM

Geoff, I may have missed it (I DID read this whole thread), but what engine management will you be running? AEM? PowerFC? Haltech?

Nismoogle · 03-05-2010, 12:23 PM

Good to see this monster being put to use! I have been following this build since day one! Good Luck agains Tarzan and the other drivers!!!

S14Serge · 03-05-2010, 12:28 PM

We need less talking and MORE pics and updates!!!

FullRaceGeoff · 03-05-2010, 12:28 PM

just dynoed on weds, and went to the track yesterday - car is making wayyy too much power doing 4wheel burnouts like its on ice skates. will have a big update with pics and vids coming later today

FullRaceGeoff · 03-05-2010, 12:33 PM

good timing serge, posted identical time as me LOL

S14Serge · 03-05-2010, 12:35 PM

Lol that's crazy, but can't wait to see these vid's and pics!

longfellow · 03-05-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by codyace

The stresses the NASCAR motors absorb and take is darn near equal to the top fuelers of NHRA. Not even F1 comes close.

I dont agree with that at all. 19,000 RPM going up and down through the rev range on a 2.4L V8 making 850hp pushing a car that makes more than twice its weight in downforce. You cant even start an F1 motor unless its fed preheated 150* oil. F1 has a 2 motor limit the entire year, NASCAR can rebuild motors every race. So I would think F1 engines are on par in the stress related area.

And I dont think anything comes with in miles to NHRA Top Fuel in terms of engine stress.

On topic, I like those mod'ed RLCA's. I wouldnt mind making some of those my self when I get around to replacing the ball join with a spherical bearing + stud.

FullRaceGeoff · 03-10-2010, 06:03 PM

final vmount pics:

bubbler tank for vmount:

rear susp is back under the knife, but shocks are inverted

on the dyno, 100% RWD:

^^jeff evans tuning

^^final 88-75 dyno at 20 psi on E85 - too laggy. will upload a fun dyno vid tonite or tomorrow

theres 4 weeks left and TONS of work to do still, will be swapping on a prototype S300 turbo from BW shortly! dont know if ill be able to post much more until after the event, the heat is on and clock is ticking

full update posted here if anyone is interested: http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothrea...tuner-shootout

ZilviaKid · 03-10-2010, 06:27 PM

oh gooood.

you cant stop the updates!

i love this car too much, i even made a forza clone!

maxlineGTR · 03-10-2010, 06:38 PM

you guys are too innovative....haha...sick as hell....

FullRaceGeoff · 03-10-2010, 06:43 PM

zilviakid - post a pic of the forza R14!

S14Serge · 03-10-2010, 06:56 PM

Geoff this thread mutha fu%in delivers!!!!

I couldn't wait for that sick a$$ v-mount setup to be posted up lol

ZilviaKid · 03-10-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FullRaceGeoff

zilviakid - post a pic of the forza R14!

its not much to look at lol, and my console is banned so i cant just upload them...

onehundredoctane · 03-14-2010, 07:15 PM

new setup looks great Geoff! can't wait to see how you guys do!

FullRaceGeoff · 03-19-2010, 09:50 AM

just got the manifold and downpipe 2000degree HPC coated, and installing the new prototype turbo today.

i scrapped the old aluminum uprights i had on there, switching the sphericals over to a new pair with entirely stock geometry. Rod lengths are 8.50 and 12.25. toe rod eccentric at the full outboard position (shortest toe rod possible)

cut out the spare tire well and made a complete flat bottom + integrating a diffuser. pics coming soon

02-25-2010, 12:42 AM	#63
didderson Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Phila/Lancaster, PA Age: 38 Posts: 291 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	This build is delicious! Most of this thread people can only dream about. __________________

03-05-2010, 06:13 AM	#76
jspaeth Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Philadelphia suburbs Age: 39 Posts: 2,347 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: jspaeth Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Geoff, I may have missed it (I DID read this whole thread), but what engine management will you be running? AEM? PowerFC? Haltech? __________________ Daily driven

03-05-2010, 12:23 PM	#77
Nismoogle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Good to see this monster being put to use! I have been following this build since day one! Good Luck agains Tarzan and the other drivers!!! __________________ S13 '89 240SX - RB20DET (Track Slut)

03-05-2010, 12:28 PM	#78
S14Serge Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 337 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	We need less talking and MORE pics and updates!!! __________________

03-05-2010, 12:35 PM	#81
S14Serge Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 337 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Lol that's crazy, but can't wait to see these vid's and pics! __________________

02-22-2010, 12:42 PM	#61
FullRaceGeoff Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: az/nj Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	here are a few more from last week ^^^eliminated the bushing, spherical bearings everywhere! ^^^aluminum knuckle, modified lower shock mount and toe link mount ^^^upper shock mounts I just pulled 2.5 days of straight fabrication with YouTube- Test Footage - Paper Planes we got the vmount and entire front end really dialed, its unreal im sooo pumped on it... can not post pics until completed. you guys will love it, especially with the bumper cover off :devil:

02-24-2010, 11:33 PM	#62
FullRaceGeoff Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: az/nj Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so i just got the entire rear subframe finished, SPL aluminum bushings + RUCAs, adj tractionrods and toe rods, and the knuckles posted above. Skullworks sphericals in the uprights - not a single bushing in the entire rear susp. I really wanted to post it up on NRR New S14 bumpsteer graphs - Page 5 - Nissan Road Racing Forums but i am not able to post -- does anyone know a moderator over there that can fix my screen name full-race geoff? thanks

03-03-2010, 11:18 AM	#65
Highway Riding Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Out on the Highway! Posts: 602 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Just saw this on speedhunters... Totally digging this build.. +1 keep up the good work! MAGAZINE BLOG: MODIFIED>> FULL RACE R14 MODIFIED TUNER SHOOTOUT - Speedhunters

03-03-2010, 02:18 PM	#66
tricky_ab Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It's dark, and hell is hot! Posts: 9,414 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Good luck with the Modified magazine shootout!

03-03-2010, 02:37 PM	#67
VNG704 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,575 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	ummm, wow. Good stuff here. Thanks for sharing and good luck.

03-03-2010, 08:16 PM	#69
dongoesby Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Francisco Age: 37 Posts: 756 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	agree with said above, keep it zenki or go kouki, please don't go s15 (front and tail don't match) kouki would definitely make the stance a lot more aggressive! if you must, here's a kicker although i still like Exceed Moat S14 the BEST!!

03-05-2010, 12:33 PM	#80
FullRaceGeoff Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: az/nj Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	good timing serge, posted identical time as me LOL

03-10-2010, 06:03 PM	#83
FullRaceGeoff Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: az/nj Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	final vmount pics: bubbler tank for vmount: rear susp is back under the knife, but shocks are inverted on the dyno, 100% RWD: ^^jeff evans tuning ^^final 88-75 dyno at 20 psi on E85 - too laggy. will upload a fun dyno vid tonite or tomorrow theres 4 weeks left and TONS of work to do still, will be swapping on a prototype S300 turbo from BW shortly! dont know if ill be able to post much more until after the event, the heat is on and clock is ticking full update posted here if anyone is interested: http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothrea...tuner-shootout

03-10-2010, 06:27 PM	#84
ZilviaKid Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto Age: 34 Posts: 1,441 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh gooood. you cant stop the updates! i love this car too much, i even made a forza clone! __________________ 2004 Nissan 350z 2002 Nissan Silvia

03-10-2010, 06:38 PM	#85
maxlineGTR Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: W Covina Posts: 38 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you guys are too innovative....haha...sick as hell....

03-10-2010, 06:43 PM	#86
FullRaceGeoff Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: az/nj Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	zilviakid - post a pic of the forza R14!

03-10-2010, 06:56 PM	#87
S14Serge Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 337 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Geoff this thread mutha fu%in delivers!!!! I couldn't wait for that sick a$$ v-mount setup to be posted up lol __________________

03-14-2010, 07:15 PM	#89
onehundredoctane Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Greensborough, NC Posts: 2,783 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	new setup looks great Geoff! can't wait to see how you guys do!

03-19-2010, 09:50 AM	#90
FullRaceGeoff Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: az/nj Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just got the manifold and downpipe 2000degree HPC coated, and installing the new prototype turbo today. i scrapped the old aluminum uprights i had on there, switching the sphericals over to a new pair with entirely stock geometry. Rod lengths are 8.50 and 12.25. toe rod eccentric at the full outboard position (shortest toe rod possible) cut out the spare tire well and made a complete flat bottom + integrating a diffuser. pics coming soon