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mr_240sx · 03-19-2005, 11:12 PM

dammmm, that red is HOT!!!

bing · 03-20-2005, 02:03 AM

fukk, those ARE megans...

excuse me, i'm going to go run a hot bath and dig out the razor blades.

rps13sh · 03-20-2005, 02:38 AM

why not look at it the other way? megans are apex?

JKim0901 · 03-20-2005, 02:55 AM

those are real, i was at the apex garage sale and they had those for the s13 on display. I was disapointed to see the sticker stating that they were made in taiwan, looks to be almost identical to the megan ones....

bing · 03-20-2005, 03:26 AM

i think Apexi will lose some brand equity with this move.

but it does go to show where the market is headed, people are price-conscious more than they are quality conscious.

not that these are bad, it is just interesting that Apexi has decided to release lower quality products because they are losing sales to companies like Megan.

i would have thought it smarter to just start up their own company like Megan but have it be backed by Apexi, that would make the new company more appealing than Megan being backed by the big-boys. this has the reverse affect. Megan now looks better and Apexi looks worse.

but then again, here i am riding around on busted D2's... so i guess i am just helping to perpetuate the cycle.

i do have Apexi products on my car however, and i did pay full retail for them so...

mr_240sx · 03-20-2005, 10:44 AM

i got apex'i products on my 240 as well and i couldnt be any happier with them! excellent quality!

OptionZero · 03-20-2005, 11:32 AM

BMW is releasing the 1-series. Does that make the M4 somehow worse?

The release of lower tier product should HELP build the rep, because after people are ready to graduate from ExV's to a better coilover, what will they think of? Apexi'...N1 Pro's.

Theoretically.

These do look freakin' hot, if they were within $50 of MR, i'd jump

95zilvia · 03-20-2005, 06:35 PM

I just looked at the pictures, I think they didn't even bother repainting the frony camber plate.

Damnit, I used to have the Apexi WS coilovers, and I went to Megan Racing. Looks like I got Apexi again, or actually, looks like, I got MR, or actually, ahh, I dunno.

At least I can say my coilovers are the same as the Apexi.

yudalicious · 03-20-2005, 07:00 PM

maybe the internals are different?

Juujai · 03-21-2005, 02:51 AM

it's not really apexis fault. japans exchange rate is getting higher and higher. It's just adding another product to their line up by allowing other countries to make it for em. it's not like the apexi n1s are made in taiwan. i'd stop buyin gany of their products if even their high end stuff is made by cheaper labor countrys. it's true about you get what you pay for though. just because megans and apexi are similar theyre both still made in taiwan. I think it'd be better to wait a while as some of the guys on the forums use it for a while and give us a longer term feedback.

screw ohlins its all about quantum =)

MikeFD3S · 03-21-2005, 06:10 PM

D2, Ksport, Megan Racing, Apex, Buddy Club...all the same junk....aiya.. a lot of people had some very serious problems with those D2's and Ksports....someone do some extended testing on these MRs! Go on a fairly bumpy road or something. I'm really curious why A'pexi would choose to go with such a company.

Can TDM parts hang with JDM? Hehe I really doubt it. Company's like KYB Japan have been making shocks since the 1920's and they're used on millions of cars and even aircraft landing gear...if its safe enough for the lives of millions, it has to be reliable and will really do its job. 85 yr experience vs 5 yr experience? I'll go with the former

Internals "should" be different from the MR's but i wouldnt be surprised if they were the same. Since they are using the same casings and same internal valves, the reliability will be the same between the two.

Apex will take a big hit on their credibility with things like these. Although their products aren't expensive as parts from HKS, they are still pretty expensive for what they are. Their N1 catbacks aren't even full stainless (aluminized steel) yet they retail for over $650. Dissapointing, really.

looks and reliability are two very seperate things. A lot of times things are made to look bling to make up for quality.

Ian · 03-21-2005, 09:41 PM

the day i lose faith is when GP sports and OBX come out with the same coilovers lol

then i will buy OBX coilovers...and for reference, i rock MR coilovers now...and they're nice

TK · 03-21-2005, 10:39 PM

well i installed mine today, ride isn't too bad... once i get the car insured (hopefully weds) i'll take the car out on a drive.

mike, apexi does make a full stainless n1 catback and has been for the last year.. its called the N1 EVO

Juujai · 03-21-2005, 11:23 PM

after lots of complaint and problems with things, then they start forking out some more money to their third world countries to use better materials... i hate it when exhausts rust. i think id rather just work hard even though i get paid a pretty low wage id rather buy a better quality product instead of just buying whats cheap. atleast i have a sense of peace in my mind.

Catalan · 03-22-2005, 05:04 PM

So when the MR's blow you have to send them to Taiwan to fix? If that's the case I'd rather buy Apexi.

A Spec Products · 03-22-2005, 05:49 PM

Per Apex'i, they now have EXV applications for the S14 as well as the Evolution 8.

As far as pricing, the price is the same as the S13 application.

bing · 03-23-2005, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

BMW is releasing the 1-series. Does that make the M4 somehow worse?

The release of lower tier product should HELP build the rep, because after people are ready to graduate from ExV's to a better coilover, what will they think of? Apexi'...N1 Pro's.

Theoretically.

These do look freakin' hot, if they were within $50 of MR, i'd jump

BMW is making the 1-series because Kia is the fastest growing automaker in the world.

and Kia is owned by one of the big-three american comapnies arent they.

buy a kia, export your future
shop at wal-mart, export your future

03-20-2005, 02:03 AM	#62
bing Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ontario canada Posts: 2,699 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	fukk, those ARE megans... excuse me, i'm going to go run a hot bath and dig out the razor blades. __________________ www.son240sx.org /// www.nyspeed.com

03-20-2005, 03:26 AM	#65
bing Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ontario canada Posts: 2,699 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	i think Apexi will lose some brand equity with this move. but it does go to show where the market is headed, people are price-conscious more than they are quality conscious. not that these are bad, it is just interesting that Apexi has decided to release lower quality products because they are losing sales to companies like Megan. i would have thought it smarter to just start up their own company like Megan but have it be backed by Apexi, that would make the new company more appealing than Megan being backed by the big-boys. this has the reverse affect. Megan now looks better and Apexi looks worse. but then again, here i am riding around on busted D2's... so i guess i am just helping to perpetuate the cycle. i do have Apexi products on my car however, and i did pay full retail for them so... __________________ www.son240sx.org /// www.nyspeed.com

03-21-2005, 06:10 PM	#71
MikeFD3S Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Torrance, CA Age: 44 Posts: 240 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	D2, Ksport, Megan Racing, Apex, Buddy Club...all the same junk....aiya.. a lot of people had some very serious problems with those D2's and Ksports....someone do some extended testing on these MRs! Go on a fairly bumpy road or something. I'm really curious why A'pexi would choose to go with such a company. Can TDM parts hang with JDM? Hehe I really doubt it. Company's like KYB Japan have been making shocks since the 1920's and they're used on millions of cars and even aircraft landing gear...if its safe enough for the lives of millions, it has to be reliable and will really do its job. 85 yr experience vs 5 yr experience? I'll go with the former Internals "should" be different from the MR's but i wouldnt be surprised if they were the same. Since they are using the same casings and same internal valves, the reliability will be the same between the two. Apex will take a big hit on their credibility with things like these. Although their products aren't expensive as parts from HKS, they are still pretty expensive for what they are. Their N1 catbacks aren't even full stainless (aluminized steel) yet they retail for over $650. Dissapointing, really. looks and reliability are two very seperate things. A lot of times things are made to look bling to make up for quality. __________________ '93 FD3S R1 '92 SC300 5SP '87 FC3S Sport Turbo II conversion '90 240SX Hatch '89 240SX Coupe [dead] '91 Geo Storm [dead] '86 FC3S GXL [gone]

03-22-2005, 05:49 PM	#76
A Spec Products Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Socal! Off 60/605 Posts: 7,256 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Per Apex'i, they now have EXV applications for the S14 as well as the Evolution 8. As far as pricing, the price is the same as the S13 application. __________________ A SPEC PRODUCTS CORP AME Wheels, Advan, ARC, Gram Lights, Nardi, Personal, Recaro, Works Bell, Work Wheels, Volk Racing, 5Zigen, & more! 626.618.1100 x 103 / aim: aspectuan Advertiser's Specials! Read / Give Feedback! Please Rate Us!

03-19-2005, 11:12 PM	#61
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 37 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	dammmm, that red is HOT!!!

03-20-2005, 02:38 AM	#63
rps13sh Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cerritos, CA Posts: 1,098 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why not look at it the other way? megans are apex?

03-20-2005, 02:55 AM	#64
JKim0901 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Irvine Age: 41 Posts: 1,273 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	those are real, i was at the apex garage sale and they had those for the s13 on display. I was disapointed to see the sticker stating that they were made in taiwan, looks to be almost identical to the megan ones....

03-20-2005, 10:44 AM	#66
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 37 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	i got apex'i products on my 240 as well and i couldnt be any happier with them! excellent quality!

03-20-2005, 11:32 AM	#67
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 40 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	BMW is releasing the 1-series. Does that make the M4 somehow worse? The release of lower tier product should HELP build the rep, because after people are ready to graduate from ExV's to a better coilover, what will they think of? Apexi'...N1 Pro's. Theoretically. These do look freakin' hot, if they were within $50 of MR, i'd jump

03-20-2005, 06:35 PM	#68
95zilvia Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South San Francisco Age: 39 Posts: 1,860 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 95zilvia Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just looked at the pictures, I think they didn't even bother repainting the frony camber plate. Damnit, I used to have the Apexi WS coilovers, and I went to Megan Racing. Looks like I got Apexi again, or actually, looks like, I got MR, or actually, ahh, I dunno. At least I can say my coilovers are the same as the Apexi.

03-20-2005, 07:00 PM	#69
yudalicious Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 700 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	maybe the internals are different?

03-21-2005, 02:51 AM	#70
Juujai Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Rosemead, California Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it's not really apexis fault. japans exchange rate is getting higher and higher. It's just adding another product to their line up by allowing other countries to make it for em. it's not like the apexi n1s are made in taiwan. i'd stop buyin gany of their products if even their high end stuff is made by cheaper labor countrys. it's true about you get what you pay for though. just because megans and apexi are similar theyre both still made in taiwan. I think it'd be better to wait a while as some of the guys on the forums use it for a while and give us a longer term feedback. screw ohlins its all about quantum =)

03-21-2005, 10:39 PM	#73
TK Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: socal Age: 43 Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well i installed mine today, ride isn't too bad... once i get the car insured (hopefully weds) i'll take the car out on a drive. mike, apexi does make a full stainless n1 catback and has been for the last year.. its called the N1 EVO

03-21-2005, 11:23 PM	#74
Juujai Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Rosemead, California Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	after lots of complaint and problems with things, then they start forking out some more money to their third world countries to use better materials... i hate it when exhausts rust. i think id rather just work hard even though i get paid a pretty low wage id rather buy a better quality product instead of just buying whats cheap. atleast i have a sense of peace in my mind.

03-22-2005, 05:04 PM	#75
Catalan Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 150 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So when the MR's blow you have to send them to Taiwan to fix? If that's the case I'd rather buy Apexi.