seattle girl get "punched" by cop "over jaywalking

[BOROSUN]

could have been handle differently... don't these cops watch steve segal movies?

[J3123MY]

lol, 19 year old billy bad ass on Zilvia. You talk about cops handling the situation like shit, yet you post nonsense like that? Sort of ironic (don't you think?)

I would have loved to see you in a situation like this. It's amazing what happens in the heat of the moment when you're trying to control people, crowds, and a situation. Trust me when I say, it's not as easy as you think. Sure it's easy to point out things from the armchair, monday morning quarterback style, but it's much different in real life.

Instead of saying the cop acted like shit, think of it this way:

1. He arrested two girls
2. He kept the crowd at bay
3. He didn't use deadly force
4. He didn't resort to any non leathal force.

What should have he done, smashed her to the ground, beaned her head off the fender a few times, and then cuffed her? I think he did as well as possible, giving the situation.

Lol. The other guy started being a bad ass first. And what was so nonsense about it, eh?

Look, who knows how I might have handled the situation. But that is not important as I am not a cop. Being a police officer is a crazy position, and only the calmest, logical, cool-headed, honest people should be elected to this position, which unfortunately is not the case.

and lets look at your 4 points lol.

1. We actually never saw the arrest of the two girls, but rather him "touchy feely" them the whole time.
2. Lol. The crowd chose to not do anything, because attacking a cop is super bad, as this girl found out. So technically, the punishment of attacking a police officer kept them at bay. If the crowd wanted to, they could have fucked up that cop any time. lol.
3. I guess he didnt use any deadly force, but why would he on two unarmed females?
4. LOL At this. Are you serious???? Did you even see the video???? This is like the whole point of this whole damn discussion? I seriously suggest you watch this video again as you failed to notice the climax. LOL! If this was true, this thread and video would cease to exist.

[bb4_96]

Non lethal force = taser or cs

[soreballz]

Originally Posted by J3123MY

1. We actually never saw the arrest of the two girls, but rather him "touchy feely" them the whole time.

You haven't seen the full video, have you? Look it up on YouTube.

Originally Posted by bb4_96

Non lethal force = taser or cs

This guy knows what's up.

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

Look, it breaks down to this, these cops are being shot at and killed around the country. We have these doucsh bags rioting in Oak right now and saying that cops aren't necessary and "death to all cops". I'm not going to comment on what happened on the bart but that kind of thinking is nation wide. Just look at those two fine gentlemen cops that were shot in Florida like 2 weeks ago. The guy had 40 felonies and was OUT of jail.
Basically if the cops are too gentle then they open themselves up to harm or death. Cops haveto use their OWN discretion and I completely agree with his use of force in that instance. Was she hurt? no. Did she break any bones? no. So basically he used the punch as a tool to calm the situation and it worked. Don't say "oh you can't punch a girl" because she was swinging on a COP and she jaywalked. What kind of punishment does jaywalking give? a small ticket? but now she's in MUCH deeper waters because she decided to assault the officer and she got arrested.
Everyone who thinks it was excessive needs to wipe their vaginas and try to live ONE DAY in the life as a cop.

[sidewaysil80]

Originally Posted by bb4_96

Non lethal force = taser or cs

LOL well technically he used deadly force because he socked her in the face which is a red area lol...non lethal consists of oc, taser (you were correct), and additionally baton strikes to green areas/joint manipulation. any strikes to a red area (face/head, spine, kidneys, groin, elbow, knee) are considered deadly force. deadly force consists of death OR serious bodily harm.

the only reason i made that rant was its actually something i deal with on a daily basis and it's part of my job (sorry for coming off like a know-it-all)

cop was justified though because their temper and intent showed anger and agression AND their hands were near his weapon multiple times!!!!!!!! so legally he could have jumped right to deadly force if he had wanted to. J3123MY you sir are a mongoloid...you don't know what your talking about and i'm kinda embarassed for you. i suppose he should have tasered/pepper sprayed her? I unlike you speak from experience and say it was nicer of him to punch her than taser or pepper spray her. but he knew that and was actually doing the least painful method to subdue a violent aggressor...unorthodox maybe...but it worked.

[J3123MY]

Everyone who thinks it was excessive needs to wipe their vaginas and try to live ONE DAY in the life as a cop.

Honestly I dont think being a cop is that dangerous.

America's most dangerous jobs - Sep. 23, 2005

Plus, if you want to be a cop, you should know your gonna have to deal with crazy fuckers.

Carrying a badge and a gun, being able to arrest others, being able to run red lights, speed through everywhere, disobey traffic rules, shine bright ass lights on other people, fuck with other people, free shit from 7-11 all day everyday,........That shit doesnt sound so bad. lol.

J3123MY you sir are a mongoloid

lol. What the fuck is this? Is this suppose to be an insult or some shit? Im gonna have to say this is kinda true. lol at this.


Ok, allright I watched another more fuller video soreballz.

That dude kinda saved the girl in pink and got her away from the cop.So what I dont understand, is if the cop punched the other girl, why didnt he punch the girl resisting arrest, minus well right? Cuz i saw the video and it took him straight up forever to get that girl under control. Pathedically long. Any time he was struggling with that girl he could have been attacked. So why didnt he just punch her too under you people's logic.


Lol. I dont even really care about this. Its not even that bad. And I dont know or care about the bitch, but she kinda had it coming. I just feel like the cop took forever to handle pretty much one woman, and threw out a punch that didnt really do shit, because in the end, that black dude helped the cop out by removing the girl who pushed him.

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

Originally Posted by J3123MY

Honestly I dont think being a cop is that dangerous.

America's most dangerous jobs - Sep. 23, 2005

Plus, if you want to be a cop, you should know your gonna have to deal with crazy fuckers.

Carrying a badge and a gun, being able to arrest others, being able to run red lights, speed through everywhere, disobey traffic rules, shine bright ass lights on other people, fuck with other people, free shit from 7-11 all day everyday,........That shit doesnt sound so bad. lol.



lol. What the fuck is this? Is this suppose to be an insult or some shit? Im gonna have to say this is kinda true. lol at this.


Ok, allright I watched another more fuller video soreballz.

That dude kinda saved the girl in pink and got her away from the cop.So what I dont understand, is if the cop punched the other girl, why didnt he punch the girl resisting arrest, minus well right? Cuz i saw the video and it took him straight up forever to get that girl under control. Pathedically long. Any time he was struggling with that girl he could have been attacked. So why didnt he just punch her too under you people's logic.


Lol. I dont even really care about this. Its not even that bad. And I dont know or care about the bitch, but she kinda had it coming. I just feel like the cop took forever to handle pretty much one woman, and threw out a punch that didnt really do shit, because in the end, that black dude helped the cop out by removing the girl who pushed him.

look, being a cop is a very honorable occupation. It's not just "getting free shit at 7-11". They don't go around just fucking with people either. And look, sometimes they do seem to fuck with people, as I got hastled in the past for the car that I drove but I understand that stupid FUCKS with the same style car do do bad shit and it was my decision to modify my vehicle the way I did knowing the consequences.
I understand this is a car forum and that some kiddies feel they have been wronged by cops but I've seen a TON of bad shit for being in places I shouldn't have. I've seen 2 people killed in the San Fran area at the "local races." I've seen cars loose control and barrel into a crowd of people in Barstow. Bad things happen in places like that but I went there KNOWINGLY and cops know what type of cars go to those types of places and they'll stop people and fuck with them to deter a 18 year old with a 69 Camaro RS-SS from driving down the 15 freeway WAY too fast (why is everyone looking at me?) with a serious threat of hurting someone.
I didn't understand it until I was older and really underestimated the job of law enforcement until I did a couple ride-a-longs (which is everyone's right as an American). I encourage everyone to do the same thing because even if you respect cops now, you'll respect them more after the ride-a-longs.

[SochBAT]

Originally Posted by J3123MY

why didnt he punch the girl resisting arrest, minus well right?

FUCK.

MIGHT AS WELL.

Why would you even subtract a well?

As soon as I read that, it rendered your entire post irrelevant.

[TurboSE]

took guts to handle the situation how he did...I may sound racist, but a lone white cop...using force on a black girl with a crowd of black bystanders...could have got ugly really fast.

PS - I'd say the same if it was a black cop in a trailer park....

[spools420a]

that punch did the trick she stopped trying to interfere with the arrest after that,If it wasnt for the punch the girl in pink would have kept trying to stop the officer no doubt and after the punch she was gone,Id rather take that punch then to be laying on the ground with two tazer prongs stuck in my stomach.Eather way the girl has no respect for authority and had that comming and it worked like a charm.

Also relise if this was in a 3rd world country the girls woulda been billy clubbed into submission.

[sidewaysil80]

Originally Posted by J3123MY

Honestly I dont think being a cop is that dangerous.
America's most dangerous jobs - Sep. 23, 2005
Plus, if you want to be a cop, you should know your gonna have to deal with crazy fuckers.
Carrying a badge and a gun, being able to arrest others, being able to run red lights, speed through everywhere, disobey traffic rules, shine bright ass lights on other people, fuck with other people, free shit from 7-11 all day everyday,........That shit doesnt sound so bad. lol.

because yeah, thats ALL cops ever do. its not like they respond to violent crimes on a daily basis, get shot/injured at routine traffic stops because the person they are stopping is on the run, they don't deal with violent drunk people on a DAILY basis, or domestic disputes, armed fellons, etc. not too mention the long hours/night shifts away from their family... all for meager pay and disrespect from punk kids who think they are so smart and qualified to pass judgement on men with more dignity and sense of duty then they have years in puberty. grow up kid

ps.
the ranking you posted is based on fatality only...not injury. and to be honest i didn't see military on there so i'm not sure how entirely accurate it is.

[codyace]

Originally Posted by J3123MY

and lets look at your 4 points lol.

1. We actually never saw the arrest of the two girls, but rather him "touchy feely" them the whole time.

So all arrests go by the book...ya know bad guy turning, cuffs on, back of car? How else do you contain someone? Do you have any experience?

Originally Posted by J3123MY

2. Lol. The crowd chose to not do anything, because attacking a cop is super bad, as this girl found out. So technically, the punishment of attacking a police officer kept them at bay. If the crowd wanted to, they could have fucked up that cop any time. lol.

That's the entire thing - if they wanted to, they could have. I'm certain the cop would have pulled his pistol out, but that's besdies. My point here was, he was dealing with a crowd...it's not like they said 'ok bro we're not fighting'. Good crowd control is just that - he did fine.

Originally Posted by J3123MY

3. I guess he didnt use any deadly force, but why would he on two unarmed females?

Why does sex make any difference? Or skin color? or Religious Background? It doesn't. It's about cop vs. civilian/suspect.

Originally Posted by J3123MY

4. LOL At this. Are you serious???? Did you even see the video???? This is like the whole point of this whole damn discussion? I seriously suggest you watch this video again as you failed to notice the climax. LOL! If this was true, this thread and video would cease to exist.

I did watch the entire video - I have been part of situations myself like this.

Originally Posted by J3123MY

Honestly I dont think being a cop is that dangerous.

Is this your first attempt at trolling a thread/forum? It hasta be.

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by sidewaysil80

J3123MY you sir are a mongoloid...you don't know what your talking about and i'm kinda embarassed for you.

Originally Posted by mrmephistopheles

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[J3123MY]

FUCK.

MIGHT AS WELL.

Why would you even subtract a well?

As soon as I read that, it rendered your entire post irrelevant.

Lol. Its called a grammatical error. Everyone does it. Yes, even you. Sorry grammar Nazi. And if you want to be like that, when did FUCK. and MIGHT AS WELL. become a sentence? And when is it appropriate to capitalize a whole sentence?

because yeah, thats ALL cops ever do. its not like they respond to violent crimes on a daily basis, get shot/injured at routine traffic stops because the person they are stopping is on the run, they don't deal with violent drunk people on a DAILY basis, or domestic disputes, armed fellons, etc. not too mention the long hours/night shifts away from their family... all for meager pay and disrespect from punk kids who think they are so smart and qualified to pass judgement on men with more dignity and sense of duty then they have years in puberty. grow up kid

Enforcing the law doesn't mean your above it. They wanted to be a cop in the first place. BTW, never passed judgement, just opinion.

Is this your first attempt at trolling a thread/forum? It hasta be.

Lol. Just stating my opinion. If it is my first attempt, not bad, eh?

ps.
the ranking you posted is based on fatality only...not injury. and to be honest i didn't see military on there so i'm not sure how entirely accurate it is.

Yea, same thing I thought, actually. But i still posted it lol. Its CNN though



I wouldn't even take the mongoloid as a person attack.

Mongoloid–adjective
1.
resembling the Mongols.
2.
Anthropology . of, pertaining to, or characteristic of one of the traditional racial divisions of humankind, marked by yellowish complexion, prominent cheekbones, epicanthic folds about the eyes, and straight black hair, and including the Mongols, Manchus, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, Annamese, Siamese, Burmese, Tibetans, and, to some extent, the Eskimos and the American Indians: no longer in technical use.
3.
( often lowercase ) Pathology . (no longer in technical use) of, affected with, or characteristic of down syndrome

Basically, he called me Asian, which I am. Unless he meant definition 3, but dictionary.com says its "no longer in technical use"

did watch the entire video - I have been part of situations myself like this.

My bad, I didn't know the governments definition of non-lethal force as taser and pepper spray, but someone said the force he actually used was lethal due to the head region attacked. So, then how did you react in those situations?

look, being a cop is a very honorable occupation. It's not just "getting free shit at 7-11". They don't go around just fucking with people either. And look, sometimes they do seem to fuck with people, as I got hastled in the past for the car that I drove but I understand that stupid FUCKS with the same style car do do bad shit and it was my decision to modify my vehicle the way I did knowing the consequences.
I understand this is a car forum and that some kiddies feel they have been wronged by cops but I've seen a TON of bad shit for being in places I shouldn't have. I've seen 2 people killed in the San Fran area at the "local races." I've seen cars loose control and barrel into a crowd of people in Barstow. Bad things happen in places like that but I went there KNOWINGLY and cops know what type of cars go to those types of places and they'll stop people and fuck with them to deter a 18 year old with a 69 Camaro RS-SS from driving down the 15 freeway WAY too fast (why is everyone looking at me?) with a serious threat of hurting someone.
I didn't understand it until I was older and really underestimated the job of law enforcement until I did a couple ride-a-longs (which is everyone's right as an American). I encourage everyone to do the same thing because even if you respect cops now, you'll respect them more after the ride-a-longs.

I kinda respect cops (not really), as we do need them in society. Especially the police officers that are honest. But police officers are here to enforce the law, not to be above it. And just like all human beings, there are good and bad cops. I actually knew a guy who became a cop, but quit because he was really honest and saw too much corruption. The guy is kinda weird though, like his not one of the boys.

So, lol we can just go on ride a longs with them if we wanted to?

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

Originally Posted by J3123MY

I kinda respect cops (not really), as we do need them in society. Especially the police officers that are honest. But police officers are here to enforce the law, not to be above it. And just like all human beings, there are good and bad cops. I actually knew a guy who became a cop, but quit because he was really honest and saw too much corruption. The guy is kinda weird though, like his not one of the boys.

So, lol we can just go on ride a longs with them if we wanted to?

it's your right as an American. lol. but seriously, yeah you can.

And I'm not saying all cops are wonderful people. I'm sure some cops get off the job, go home, do some heroine and beat their wife and kids. Just like the military, however, the majority of them are good people and have good intentions but some DO become cops and join the military for the benefits they get. And, sure, cops do get treated differently outside their job but it's the same thing if you work at Carls Jr. and you go to lunch. I'm sure you could easily get a free Big Carl and no one around you will say shit. Unless it's something major, cops will look out for cops.

[ronmcdon]

Yeah 'Mongoloid' is just some old fashioned way of calling somebody asian.
some ppl find it offensive.
then again some ppl find pretty much anything offensive.
I'm asian as well and i could care less either way.

I find it hard to believe all asiatic ppls desended from the Mongols, but whatever.

[codyace]

Originally Posted by S14DB

No Personal Attacks. Take some time off.

poor choice of words by him for sure, but at the same time, lets take a look at the j3132my's trolling antics - he has no purpose int hsi thread other than trying to get people fired up by saying cops are worthless.

[bb4_96]

not to get off topic but what is trolling?

[ronmcdon]

As I understand it, trolling is just posting shit just to stir attention back to yourself, and for no other reason other than that.
i.e. posting up stuff to piss ppl off, arguing for the sake of arguing.
no doubt urbandictionary.com has better defintions.

Of course, maturity goes both ways.
Some things are better left ignored,
if a response is needed, be mature in going about it.

[bb4_96]

dude zilvia is notorious for trolling!

[ronmcdon]

what site isn't?

[jza240sx]

tisk tisk she had it comin

[bb4_96]

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

what site isn't?

NRR has very little

[40cal]

she should of just listened.
some people just dont get it. a friend of mine did that years ago and and was thrown in jail
dumb ass

[spindrift187]

lol you realize this thread was over two weeks old right?

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by HyperTek

yeah I agree, girl had it coming , actually anybody has it coming when they put hands on a cop.

I think this is no big deal and media is blowing it out of proportion. Its not as bad as the cop mistakenly blasting someone.

This. Touching a cop is just stupid. It looked to me like the two where nearly mauling him. Everything else appeared to be an officer trying to get two unruly girls under control.

As for "jay walking", hmmm.. I'd like to see a report on that. The news if foreign and the presentators attitude is clearly biased.

[Otto347]

Originally Posted by spindrift187

lol you realize this thread is over a year old right?

.............

[TougeLove]

i see what you did there. hahah *like