Rumormill: Nissan's new RWD sports coupe could be hybrid-powered

[ZilviaBot]

Filed under: Coupes, Hybrids/Alternative, Green, Nissan, Rumormill We've been obsessively following the developments surrounding Nissan's rumored re-entry into the compact, RWD market, and up until now, it's been assumed that a small-displacement engine would be mounted up front, possibly fitted with a turbocharger. But according to a report by Drive.com.au, Nissan is actively considering a hybrid drivetrain to power its Silvia replacement. The Aussie automotive news outlet spoke with Junichi Endo, Nissan's senior vice president of global marketing, who said that the automaker is trying to...

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[Antihero983]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!

ghey.

as someone who used to work at toyota, i can honestly say....hybrids are a fucking waste of money.

why? you can get almost the same gas mileage from a fucking corolla AND they make the same emissions.

if they make it hybrid, its going to be a waste.

[all show no go]

i hope to god this isnt so.. it would make ZERO sense to bring back a well in demand car with a big following but as a hybrid. Hyundai finally got their head on straight, so i thought Nissan would have to whip out something equal to the Genesis to compete in the sales, but if theyre gonna do this..

[98s14inaz]

God damn it, will someone Japanese buy Nissan back from that french pussy already so we can get some good cars. Hybrid!!!!???? WTF???!!!! Silvia Hybrid = EPIC FAILURE

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by 98s14inaz

God damn it, will someone Japanese buy Nissan back from that french pussy already so we can get some good cars. Hybrid!!!!???? WTF???!!!! Silvia Hybrid = EPIC FAILURE

Good call. Cause the GTR is a total failure.

[Tulok]

I hope this isnt true, hybrids are soooo lame!
I am seriously gonna be mad if this comes through.

[98s14inaz]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Good call. Cause the GTR is a total failure.

Exception to every rule, you got me though lol

Originally Posted by random French person too scared to leave his name

some ppl on here are french and live there

Sorry man, the french are good at a lot of things...wine, cheese, whine, surrendering, etc. Designing "Japanese" cars is not one of them...except for the GTR...thanks for the correction exitspeed ;-)

Tell the French that we want our cars to have snails, not the designers eating snails. A hybrid "silvia" or "240" will be an epic failure.

[DreamN]

it'll never happen. you guys are getting worked up for no reason.

[Slam]

I bet it's not going to be a hybrid. Hybrid powertrain are sometimes mentioned to create buzz with the press and general public. This grows awareness for the company and the vehicle. And you know the deal, being green nowadays is the hot topic.

Another reason why its probably not a hybrid, look at Nissan's hybrid options, only one...Altima Hybrid. So if something else is getting a hybrid, it'll be the Sentra or the Rogue.

Ghosn and 'the french' turned Nissan around, but they also f things up by moving the company to Tennessee. Most of the talent in he LA HQ went elsewhere. When Nissan was run by the japanese, there was alot of loyalty within its operations and things were not cut even if the business case didn't pan out. When Ghosn stepped in, he basically cut out the fat. Another example were some the suppliers to the company, they use to be given the business because of old times sake, but that changed right away when Ghosn stepped in, he basically made them compete with other suppliers for the business of supplying to nissan, this automatically lowered Nissan costs.

this is only a bit of it..there is so much more detail...

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by 98s14inaz

Exception to every rule, you got me though lol



Sorry man, the french are good at a lot of things...wine, cheese, whine, surrendering, etc. Designing "Japanese" cars is not one of them...except for the GTR...thanks for the correction exitspeed ;-)

Actually Nissan has a very strong line-up of vehicles. The Altima Sedan and Coupe are both attractive cars with great powerplants and chassis. The Altima is the number one selling vehicle for Nissan. The Versa is a very good car as well in it's class.

Look at Infiniti. The G35 Sedan and 37 coupe are complete winners inside and out and are quit a bang for your buck compared to the 3 Series. The MB C-class doesn't even compete. The EX is a great CUV and addition to the line-up as well.

Sure the new headlight design on the Maxima and 370Z is kinda nasty, but I hardly think that's Renaults fault.

Before the Renault partnership Nissan was on the Brink of Bankruptcy (think Ford right now) and really had a pretty shitty line-up of vehicles on both the Nissan and Infiniti side of things. The partnership has really been nothing but positive for the company and consumers on both sides of the pond.

Bu, we've already been discussing all this in the RWD thread in OT.

[98s14inaz]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Sure the new headlight design on the Maxima and 370Z is kinda nasty, but I hardly think that's Renaults fault.

I saw a new maxima in person out here in AZ. They had everything covered up/michigan plates but I knew what it was. The pics don't do the car justice, it looks very aggressive in person. I'm a convert.

[kyoru]

i don't see the big deal, as long as its unobtrusive it seems like a win win situation for everyone.

[an_orange_s2k]

they wont be do it.............hopefully

[frosti108]

Originally Posted by 98s14inaz

Tell the French that we want our cars to have snails, not the designers eating snails.

haaaahahahahaha




hybrids are ghey and a waste. supposedly the batteries do wayyyy more damage than anything a regular internal combustion engine can cause. but then again this is just another rumor ive heard

[90KAcoupe]

i saw a maxima with nothing covering it up at all. i really kinda liked it.. its just something u have to see in person..

[IStop4NoMan]

Originally Posted by frosti108

haaaahahahahaha




hybrids are ghey and a waste. supposedly the batteries do wayyyy more damage than anything a regular internal combustion engine can cause. but then again this is just another rumor ive heard

i have also heard the batteries are worse for the environment. something about the plant they are made at has killed the entire habitat for like 10 miles around. rumors are great.

[Champster]

Say thanks to Al Gore for the bullshit global warming hysteria.

[irax]

as long as it is still fun to drive and i can still modify it to make babies cry i'll like it

[98s14inaz]

Originally Posted by irax

as long as it is still fun to drive and i can still modify it to make babies cry i'll like it

I think that is the biggest point. How the hell are you going to modify a hybrid? At least with a turbo car you can up the boost etc. What are you going to do with the hybrid? Bigger batteries? Bigger smug cell? Neons? It sounds like it is going to have a bunch of Nissan Nanny crap in it to prevent you from doing much anyway.

[devnull]

What are you going to do with a hybrid? First you pull the batteries before you take the car off the lot. Tell the manager he can have them. Then you tow it home and rip out the magical planet-saving motor along with all the electronics.

Then you drop in a monster with a whistle.

done

[irax]

Originally Posted by 98s14inaz

I think that is the biggest point. How the hell are you going to modify a hybrid? At least with a turbo car you can up the boost etc. What are you going to do with the hybrid? Bigger batteries? Bigger smug cell? Neons? It sounds like it is going to have a bunch of Nissan Nanny crap in it to prevent you from doing much anyway.

I really doubt that. Just because you don't know how to modify a hybrid doesn't mean they are not modifiable.

Besides I really meant slammed to the ground, loud scraping exhaust and being super flush.

[98s14inaz]

Originally Posted by devnull

What are you going to do with a hybrid? First you pull the batteries before you take the car off the lot. Tell the manager he can have them. Then you tow it home and rip out the magical planet-saving motor along with all the electronics.

Then you drop in a monster with a whistle.

done

LoL. Quoted for truth and accuracy.

Originally Posted by irax

I really doubt that. Just because you don't know how to modify a hybrid doesn't mean they are not modifiable.

Besides I really meant slammed to the ground, loud scraping exhaust and being super flush.

Any monkey can do lowering and new wheels. I'm talking about performance. You can always do what devnull said.

[irax]

Originally Posted by 98s14inaz

LoL. Quoted for truth and accuracy.

Any jack ass elephant can quote some one because they believe what they say, doesn't make it true or accurate.

w/e I'll take Handling performance over Excessive Acceleration any day of the week. You don't need high hp to go drifting or down grade mountain carving.

[devnull]

To mod a hybrid, you would definitely need to chip the computers and possibly modify the drivetrain and battery controllers to handle the bigger output. You'd also have two motors to tear down and modify. The IC engine would need custom made parts and the electric motor would have to go to an electric shop to have the windings re-wound.

[Dr.Doom]

Dont knock a car just because its a hybrid. One thing you need to consider is what the car is designed for, economy or performance. Also you need to consider how much torque an electric motor has. Disable the traction control on a toyota highlander hybrid and you'll smoke the tires. So take a decently powered engine and combine it with an electric motor and you'll have one quick ass car, as long as its engineered that way.

[irax]

DID EVERYONE FUCKING FORGET ABOUT THE LEXUS HYBRIDS? The L and the G hybrids have 0-60 in less than 5.5 seconds. The L has 485 HP and the G has 375

AND THEY BOTH GET 30 MPG!

FUCK ALL OF YOU!

Who wants 485 hp and 30mpg on a understated EPA average AND STILL HANDLES REALLY GOOD?

I do

neg rep for everyone thats talking shit about hybrids

kthnxbye

[irax]

Originally Posted by Slam

Ghosn and 'the french' turned Nissan around, but they also f things up by moving the company to Tennessee. Most of the talent in he LA HQ went elsewhere. When Nissan was run by the japanese, there was alot of loyalty within its operations and things were not cut even if the business case didn't pan out. When Ghosn stepped in, he basically cut out the fat. Another example were some the suppliers to the company, they use to be given the business because of old times sake, but that changed right away when Ghosn stepped in, he basically made them compete with other suppliers for the business of supplying to nissan, this automatically lowered Nissan costs.

this is only a bit of it..there is so much more detail...

I'm sorry but are you SURE you're from San Diego? because the Nissan/Infinity design team is IN LA JOLLA! I've been there. Nissan HQ in LA is used for prototypes that are on the last stages before production AND the nissan main overall(sales and logistics) HQ in USA. Moving things to Tenn. Which anyone that was worth while knew about coming since 03, Cost of living there is SO MUCH CHEAPER than California, its a good way to save money by paying a little bit less and getting your employees more(same million dollar house in LA or SD is 300k - 450 in Tenn). And don't tell me you wouldn't move if your pay was going to be cut 3-7% from 70k to 65.1k

[98s14inaz]

Originally Posted by irax

Any jack ass elephant can quote some one because they believe what they say, doesn't make it true or accurate.

w/e I'll take Handling performance over Excessive Acceleration any day of the week. You don't need high hp to go drifting or down grade mountain carving.

I'll tell you what. The drag prius doesn't have anything close to the stock power train in it. Show me some hybrids that are fast besides the over priced lexus offerings. Just because I have an opinion different than yours doesn't mean it's wrong. What makes you such an expert? Google? JDM drift videos? Lived in Japan for a couple of years on a military base? lol Give me a break. Let's talk hybrid sportscars under $27k that the average tuner joe can afford. I'm not buying into this hybrid crap. Make the econo-toy cars for the hippies and give the rest of use small displacement and turbos.

Originally Posted by irax

...Moving things to Tenn. Which anyone that was worth while knew about coming since 03, Cost of living there is SO MUCH CHEAPER than California, its a good way to save money by paying a little bit less and getting your employees more(same million dollar house in LA or SD is 300k - 450 in Tenn). And don't tell me you wouldn't move if your pay was going to be cut 3-7% from 70k to 65.1k

This you're right about. I've lived there, beautiful state and cheap to live there. Thinking of moving back some day.

[drift freaq]

Ah you guys are arguing over speculation at best. There is a rumor that the new Silvia or Silvia replacement might be hybrid. There are lots of rumors. There were rumors the 350z was going to be V8 there were rumors that the GTR was originally going to be a V8. Whether or not its done, we will see when it bows. Arguing over this point though has just gotten nuts though.
Ib has points that you don't like or agree with S14inAZ . You state a lot of things I don't always agree with. So why don't you guys just agree to disagree because this topic is straying under the press of the argument.

[98s14inaz]

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Ah you guys are arguing over speculation at best. There is a rumor that the new Silvia or Silvia replacement might be hybrid. There are lots of rumors. There were rumors the 350z was going to be V8 there were rumors that the GTR was originally going to be a V8. Whether or not its done, we will see when it bows. Arguing over this point though has just gotten nuts though.
Ib has points that you don't like or agree with S14inAZ . You state a lot of things I don't always agree with. So why don't you guys just agree to disagree because this topic is straying under the press of the argument.

True, but I don't insult you and completely write off what you say as false. You're right though...we'll agree to disagree