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xaaronx · 11-05-2013, 07:11 AM

Ok, guys, I'm working with my 95 240sx with a KA. I read that 0 to -1 is RECOMMENDED but what about if I'm running my low power KA? Would I want maybe -2ish or should I stick to -1 and run higher psi in my tires?

DJ 21o3 · 11-05-2013, 07:22 AM

I am assuming you are talking about camber. Set it at -1 and give it a go. If you don't like it, adjust it until you like it. Everyone is different.

***FaLKoN240*** · 11-05-2013, 10:50 AM

I have a 1998 with a KA24DE. Minimal mods. Decent clutch, 3 inch random exhaust, and a K&N intake panel.

My rear set up is 18x9.5 +10 with 225/40 or 225/35

Rear camber is -1.5 with zero toe.

Rear camber is really dependent on where and what you're drifting.

I would consider low camber anything from within OEM spec around -0.8 to -1 to as negative as -2.

"Excessive camber" would be -2 and lower, up to negative 4.5.

Are you new to drifting?

Are you drifting a pretty small course?

Is it a big course (parking lot or skid pad) with long sweeping turns?

If it's a small course, less camber should help. Otherwise on long sweeping turns where you're going to depend on your speed and momentum (not the underpowered motor) to propel you through the turn while sliding, you're going to want to run more camber.

More camber helps you maintain your speed while sliding without having to add extra clutch kicks, it will also help you maintain better tire wear.

At my last event with my current specs, I was actually burning up the OUTSIDES of my tires while drifting because the car would squat and lean so hard on the outsides of the tires.

mechanicalmoron · 11-05-2013, 10:57 AM

I can't speak on drifting, but (IME) around -2.75 or so, the inner edges of your tires may start blowing chunks during spirited driving. And at that level, there's a lot less rear grip, at least as far as launching, than with less negative/more stock camber.

But I do mean with stock wheels.

xaaronx · 11-05-2013, 11:16 AM

Crap yes I meant camber hahaha my bad. I am new to drifting. I picked up my s14 to beat around and to save my Sti a little lol.

Currently I'm running -3 camber/0 toe with 17x10.5 wheels and 235/45 tires. I haven't had a chance to pull my quarter much more yet so that's where I'm at.

So is it basically pure experimenting to see what works best for your driving style? I haven't done much since the new wheel/alignment setup so I can't currently speak for it.

DialedLife · 11-06-2013, 07:25 PM

I would say with that much tire and wheel it'd he hard to spin with a ka. I would suggest some camber. Or rediculous tire pressure.

chennizaina · 11-08-2013, 06:55 PM

good info,Set it at -1 and give it a go. If you don't like it, adjust it until you like it. Everyone is different.thanks

tauntdevil · 11-08-2013, 07:08 PM

Not to go off track but is there a difference on low power KA vs a regular KA?
If so, then I guess mine could be considered a low power KA since it was running on two cylinders for a majority of its life haha Settings depend on your skills and feel, Only thing everyone on here can help you with is how to learn how to make the adjustments to your liking. What works for one will most likely not work for another. My setup camber was was -5 in the front and -1.2 in the rear. It was be changed often in the rear but that was the most common I would use, only time it was be changed it for competition or for long courses with banks.

Goodluck.

Shift_Kouki · 11-12-2013, 12:51 AM

Coming from another mostly stock KA S14, I would say go with at least -1.5 to -2 in the rear. I tried 0 one event and wore nothing but the outside of the tire, it was horrible lol.

genericforumname · 11-12-2013, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

I have a 1998 with a KA24DE. Minimal mods. Decent clutch, 3 inch random exhaust, and a K&N intake panel.

My rear set up is 18x9.5 +10 with 225/40 or 225/35

Rear camber is -1.5 with zero toe.

Rear camber is really dependent on where and what you're drifting.

I would consider low camber anything from within OEM spec around -0.8 to -1 to as negative as -2.

"Excessive camber" would be -2 and lower, up to negative 4.5.

Are you new to drifting?

Are you drifting a pretty small course?

Is it a big course (parking lot or skid pad) with long sweeping turns?

If it's a small course, less camber should help. Otherwise on long sweeping turns where you're going to depend on your speed and momentum (not the underpowered motor) to propel you through the turn while sliding, you're going to want to run more camber.

More camber helps you maintain your speed while sliding without having to add extra clutch kicks, it will also help you maintain better tire wear.

At my last event with my current specs, I was actually burning up the OUTSIDES of my tires while drifting because the car would squat and lean so hard on the outsides of the tires.

I was under the impression that stock camber was -2?

mechanicalmoron · 11-12-2013, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genericforumname

I was under the impression that stock camber was -2?

stock camber is like, 0 to -1.38 or something, if I remember right.

It's NOT as far as -2.

11-05-2013, 07:11 AM	#1
xaaronx Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ILL. Posts: 99 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Rear alignment questions - drifting Ok, guys, I'm working with my 95 240sx with a KA. I read that 0 to -1 is RECOMMENDED but what about if I'm running my low power KA? Would I want maybe -2ish or should I stick to -1 and run higher psi in my tires?

11-05-2013, 10:50 AM	#3
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,885 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	I have a 1998 with a KA24DE. Minimal mods. Decent clutch, 3 inch random exhaust, and a K&N intake panel. My rear set up is 18x9.5 +10 with 225/40 or 225/35 Rear camber is -1.5 with zero toe. Rear camber is really dependent on where and what you're drifting. I would consider low camber anything from within OEM spec around -0.8 to -1 to as negative as -2. "Excessive camber" would be -2 and lower, up to negative 4.5. Are you new to drifting? Are you drifting a pretty small course? Is it a big course (parking lot or skid pad) with long sweeping turns? If it's a small course, less camber should help. Otherwise on long sweeping turns where you're going to depend on your speed and momentum (not the underpowered motor) to propel you through the turn while sliding, you're going to want to run more camber. More camber helps you maintain your speed while sliding without having to add extra clutch kicks, it will also help you maintain better tire wear. At my last event with my current specs, I was actually burning up the OUTSIDES of my tires while drifting because the car would squat and lean so hard on the outsides of the tires. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

11-08-2013, 07:08 PM	#8
tauntdevil Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Arizona/LA, California Posts: 476 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Not to go off track but is there a difference on low power KA vs a regular KA? If so, then I guess mine could be considered a low power KA since it was running on two cylinders for a majority of its life haha Settings depend on your skills and feel, Only thing everyone on here can help you with is how to learn how to make the adjustments to your liking. What works for one will most likely not work for another. My setup camber was was -5 in the front and -1.2 in the rear. It was be changed often in the rear but that was the most common I would use, only time it was be changed it for competition or for long courses with banks. Goodluck. __________________ S14 KA NA two cylinders, 75whp limper

11-05-2013, 07:22 AM	#2
DJ 21o3 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 353 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am assuming you are talking about camber. Set it at -1 and give it a go. If you don't like it, adjust it until you like it. Everyone is different.

11-05-2013, 10:57 AM	#4
mechanicalmoron Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: tx Posts: 1,078 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I can't speak on drifting, but (IME) around -2.75 or so, the inner edges of your tires may start blowing chunks during spirited driving. And at that level, there's a lot less rear grip, at least as far as launching, than with less negative/more stock camber. But I do mean with stock wheels.

11-05-2013, 11:16 AM	#5
xaaronx Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ILL. Posts: 99 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Crap yes I meant camber hahaha my bad. I am new to drifting. I picked up my s14 to beat around and to save my Sti a little lol. Currently I'm running -3 camber/0 toe with 17x10.5 wheels and 235/45 tires. I haven't had a chance to pull my quarter much more yet so that's where I'm at. So is it basically pure experimenting to see what works best for your driving style? I haven't done much since the new wheel/alignment setup so I can't currently speak for it.

11-06-2013, 07:25 PM	#6
DialedLife Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Portland OR Posts: 150 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I would say with that much tire and wheel it'd he hard to spin with a ka. I would suggest some camber. Or rediculous tire pressure.

11-08-2013, 06:55 PM	#7
chennizaina Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: ga Age: 34 Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	good info,Set it at -1 and give it a go. If you don't like it, adjust it until you like it. Everyone is different.thanks

11-12-2013, 12:51 AM	#9
Shift_Kouki Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Northern California Chico Posts: 380 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Coming from another mostly stock KA S14, I would say go with at least -1.5 to -2 in the rear. I tried 0 one event and wore nothing but the outside of the tire, it was horrible lol.