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POPEYE · 03-09-2003, 11:45 AM

Hey all...happy sunday!

Ok....short and sweet, 95 240, manual, and $5k to spend for goodies....what would you do?
CHEERS!

Dousan_PG · 03-09-2003, 11:54 AM

basic maintenance
LSD
good tires
brake upgrade (either z32 brakes or rotors/pads)
coilovers or shock/springs
wheels

POPEYE · 03-09-2003, 12:21 PM

Sounds good....I think I am going go before I go Show after all. I just sold my FD...it was gettin too expensicve to maintain....damn seals..but hey can anyone get me running a 13.1 wtih $5k? I am going to miss that

Help guys, I am in the need for speed.
Thanks again Dousan for ur input!
Cheers

pruto · 03-09-2003, 12:26 PM

wait, you're the one that wants to go all show right?

*sigh* well, if you're to go all show... uh... $5k...

wheels/tires
shocks/springs
bodykit (please, don't get knockoffs) greddy makes a nice clean kit, so does jic, you can always go bomex...
z brakes (with the added bonus of being functional)

do what dousan said if you changed your mind and want to put your s14 to good use =p

in my experience, you should always set aside some money for emergencies, especially when you first get the car. Also, s14 parts are expensive.

KiDyNomiTe · 03-09-2003, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by pruto
wait, you're the one that wants to go all show right?

*sigh* well, if you're to go all show... uh... $5k...

wheels/tires
shocks/springs
bodykit (please, don't get knockoffs) greddy makes a nice clean kit, so does jic, you can always go bomex...
z brakes (with the added bonus of being functional)

do what dousan said if you changed your mind and want to put your s14 to good use =p

in my experience, you should always set aside some money for emergencies, especially when you first get the car. Also, s14 parts are expensive.

He already changed his mind.

Umm since you were most worried about reliability things, do everything right. I would make sure the car is in working order first, then after it is in top shape you can either KA-T SR, or whatever, just make sure you have enough money for all parts and extra amount of money for mishaps.

pruto · 03-09-2003, 12:36 PM

yey! ignore my previous post =p

the s14 might be slow compared to your FD, but i think many on this board would advise against power as your first mod, a s14 that can hit 13.1 quarter mile and still have stock brakes/suspension/no lsd would not be fun to drive.

POPEYE · 03-09-2003, 12:39 PM

Ha ya...I was the all show

...I know I know, I was all abotu all show, but that was before I sold my FD, see my FD was my go out and have fun car, well if you have an experience with FD's or FC's or what not you know how problematic they can be, I lost a seal, end of story, 3mm too, but anyways, so I was going to get a 240 and "show" it off, well things change, I am a college student and FD's are a weee expensive to maintain I have been finding out the last few months....so now I am going s14....and should have about $5k left over...I am real tempted to do and SR swap, but I dont know what trouble I will run into, let alone enough money for the swap.....but hey guys thanks for the help...more ideas would be great too!

DRO916 · 03-09-2003, 12:48 PM

i wish i had $5k

Dousan_PG · 03-09-2003, 01:00 PM

i serioulsy highlysuggest the LSD first before anything.its about 1200 out of your budget, but if you want to drag, auto-x or drift, you need an LSD. might as well get it out of the way first. everyone i've convinced to get LSD was kissing my ass after they got it, most feel yeah, should have gotten that FIRST. you can do A LOT on the stock suspension. but open diff is no fun when you want to do some more seroius spirited driving.

if you want more streetability, go 1.5 way LSD. you get better turn in and your tires will probably last longer

if you are going to get serious into drag then 1 way will do

if you want to do drifting, track racing a 1.5 is fine but a 2 way is the shiznit. especially for drifting.

i say scratch the suspension, yeah it looks nice but lowering just means you gte ne wheels then and when you get new wheels you need more power and those wheels might be 17s so then you need mor epower to spin them which means a new engine and a new engine mean more poewr, more power equals upgrade the braking system, will kill the budget so its a waste imho. get a LSD and have tonsofun

POPEYE · 03-09-2003, 01:17 PM

AHHHH I keep reading info on the SR swap, quick someone tell me the downfall or something to steer my away from doing this if its bad to start with....

Dousan_PG · 03-09-2003, 01:19 PM

mm downfalls. its expensive, parts can be more expensive but not necessarily
you might lose AC
um..and you'd be officially "on the bandwagon"haha
but its a good engine, great engine just i think you should focus on other aspects of a car firs.t yeah afast car is cool but its not fun when its fast but handles like sh!t

wherezmytofu · 03-09-2003, 01:21 PM

front strut bar, du-luck x-bar, du-luck floor bars, do luck front and rear ladder bars, cusco triangular bar, white lines, koni's, kat

KiDyNomiTe · 03-09-2003, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by wherezmytofu
front strut bar, du-luck x-bar, du-luck floor bars, do luck front and rear ladder bars, cusco triangular bar, white lines, koni's, kat

I hope buy kat you mean a kit-kat bar, cuz he is gonna be short on money for a KA-T

EDIT: Unless he is real conservative, and does a DIY, and has a hook up on Do-Luck parts.

ny_jee · 03-09-2003, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by wherezmytofu
front strut bar, du-luck x-bar, du-luck floor bars, do luck front and rear ladder bars, cusco triangular bar, white lines, koni's, kat

Front strut bars, you can really do w/o. IMO, they don't do much, and they get in the way while working on engine. All do-luck bars are great choices. Cusco triangular bar is only made for s13 chassis, I believe he's got a 95... White lines, a friend of mine didn't like them. In fact, he sold them no long ago. ST's, I've heard great feedbacks on them, and I have no complaints. Koni's, if you are talking about the shocks & struts, they are crap. KA-T, after all the things you suggested(if he didn't need any basic maintanence), will just cap his budget and leave nothing for when things go wrong.

W/ that said, go w/ what dousan has suggested. However, w/ some minor changes. Basic maintanence is definately first on the list. LSD definately should follow. As for good tires, if you have any thoughts of getting some wheels. Then wait. Brake upgrade, pads and rotors are enough. No need for Z brakes yet w/ no engine mod(even w/ engine mod... Unless you got KA-T). Coilovers if you doing some serious RR/autoX/drifting, drag has a different type of coilovers. But coilovers should come before any other suspension mods, period. Wheels... just some showy factors, but nice to have them tho.

planb · 03-09-2003, 11:55 PM

in this order

maintenance (steering rack being the biggie, brakes, worn bushings, make sure your car can be properly aligned..etc)
front and rear whiteline sway bars
springs and shocks.. or coilovers
nice sized wheels with good tires
j30 lsd

You will have a very nice and very fun to drive car at this point. Theres really nothing more to do handling/suspension wise for a daily driver, even weekend autox.

Then go on to power.

nrcooled · 03-10-2003, 04:21 AM

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Originally posted by POPEYE
AHHHH I keep reading info on the SR swap, quick someone tell me the downfall or something to steer my away from doing this if its bad to start with....

The SR swap was the first mod I did to my car! Well I did brakes first but SR was soon to follow. Good way to start. Just think about it....if you were to buy a 180sx or silvia that would be the way you would start so why not get the power potential in there first then go and upgrade suspension and such. The 240 stock is still a capable handler

Edit: The drifters are taking over the board ::eh::

adey · 03-10-2003, 04:48 AM

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Originally posted by nrcooled
The drifters are taking over the board ::eh::

If (when) you try it, you'll become one of us, too!.

nrcooled · 03-10-2003, 05:03 AM

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Originally posted by adey
If (when) you try it, you'll become one of us, too!.

I can't afford to drift! Constantly replacing tires and clutches. Not to mention broken T/C rods, tie rods, control arms and the like from the off road excursions. Road racing already costs too much damn money

russian · 03-10-2003, 02:41 PM

5k to have is shiznet.... personally i wont go Sr20 only (and the only) one reason, its illegal, so limits the circle of people you could sell the car to in case (severe) emergency, also worry about inspection & maintainance( someone already said parts are expensive).
If i were you, i would get F-max turbo ($3800), get suspension (eibach + Koni= 700) and the rest you can spend on an exhaust (5zigen, hks or apexi = all around say 600) after that you can do strut bars, headers or whichever direction you want, even if you still want a show car...)

if pure show, get the best(in my mind) body kit which is ING, its around 2200$... very sweet and its hybrid material, prety strong and flexible.

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03-09-2003, 11:45 AM	#1
POPEYE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Iowa State University Age: 40 Posts: 25 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	$5k and one S14..what to do? Hey all...happy sunday! Ok....short and sweet, 95 240, manual, and $5k to spend for goodies....what would you do? CHEERS! __________________ 1993 Black Mazda Touring RX-7 sold =c(

03-09-2003, 11:54 AM	#2
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 45 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	basic maintenance LSD good tires brake upgrade (either z32 brakes or rotors/pads) coilovers or shock/springs wheels __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

03-09-2003, 12:21 PM	#3
POPEYE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Iowa State University Age: 40 Posts: 25 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sounds good....I think I am going go before I go Show after all. I just sold my FD...it was gettin too expensicve to maintain....damn seals..but hey can anyone get me running a 13.1 wtih $5k? I am going to miss that Help guys, I am in the need for speed. Thanks again Dousan for ur input! Cheers __________________ 1993 Black Mazda Touring RX-7 sold =c(

03-09-2003, 12:26 PM	#4
pruto Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Age: 42 Posts: 982 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	wait, you're the one that wants to go all show right? sigh well, if you're to go all show... uh... $5k... wheels/tires shocks/springs bodykit (please, don't get knockoffs) greddy makes a nice clean kit, so does jic, you can always go bomex... z brakes (with the added bonus of being functional) do what dousan said if you changed your mind and want to put your s14 to good use =p in my experience, you should always set aside some money for emergencies, especially when you first get the car. Also, s14 parts are expensive. __________________ Paul Black and Red

03-09-2003, 12:36 PM	#6
pruto Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Age: 42 Posts: 982 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yey! ignore my previous post =p the s14 might be slow compared to your FD, but i think many on this board would advise against power as your first mod, a s14 that can hit 13.1 quarter mile and still have stock brakes/suspension/no lsd would not be fun to drive. __________________ Paul Black and Red

03-09-2003, 12:39 PM	#7
POPEYE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Iowa State University Age: 40 Posts: 25 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hehe Ha ya...I was the all show ...I know I know, I was all abotu all show, but that was before I sold my FD, see my FD was my go out and have fun car, well if you have an experience with FD's or FC's or what not you know how problematic they can be, I lost a seal, end of story, 3mm too, but anyways, so I was going to get a 240 and "show" it off, well things change, I am a college student and FD's are a weee expensive to maintain I have been finding out the last few months....so now I am going s14....and should have about $5k left over...I am real tempted to do and SR swap, but I dont know what trouble I will run into, let alone enough money for the swap.....but hey guys thanks for the help...more ideas would be great too! __________________ 1993 Black Mazda Touring RX-7 sold =c(

03-09-2003, 12:48 PM	#8
DRO916 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sacramento, CA Age: 38 Posts: 922 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i wish i had $5k __________________

03-09-2003, 01:00 PM	#9
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 45 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	i serioulsy highlysuggest the LSD first before anything.its about 1200 out of your budget, but if you want to drag, auto-x or drift, you need an LSD. might as well get it out of the way first. everyone i've convinced to get LSD was kissing my ass after they got it, most feel yeah, should have gotten that FIRST. you can do A LOT on the stock suspension. but open diff is no fun when you want to do some more seroius spirited driving. if you want more streetability, go 1.5 way LSD. you get better turn in and your tires will probably last longer if you are going to get serious into drag then 1 way will do if you want to do drifting, track racing a 1.5 is fine but a 2 way is the shiznit. especially for drifting. i say scratch the suspension, yeah it looks nice but lowering just means you gte ne wheels then and when you get new wheels you need more power and those wheels might be 17s so then you need mor epower to spin them which means a new engine and a new engine mean more poewr, more power equals upgrade the braking system, will kill the budget so its a waste imho. get a LSD and have tonsofun __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

03-09-2003, 01:17 PM	#10
POPEYE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Iowa State University Age: 40 Posts: 25 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	AHHHH I keep reading info on the SR swap, quick someone tell me the downfall or something to steer my away from doing this if its bad to start with.... __________________ 1993 Black Mazda Touring RX-7 sold =c(

03-09-2003, 01:19 PM	#11
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 45 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	mm downfalls. its expensive, parts can be more expensive but not necessarily you might lose AC um..and you'd be officially "on the bandwagon"haha but its a good engine, great engine just i think you should focus on other aspects of a car firs.t yeah afast car is cool but its not fun when its fast but handles like sh!t __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

03-09-2003, 01:21 PM	#12
wherezmytofu BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,873 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	front strut bar, du-luck x-bar, du-luck floor bars, do luck front and rear ladder bars, cusco triangular bar, white lines, koni's, kat

03-09-2003, 11:55 PM	#15
planb Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: raleigh nc Posts: 132 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	in this order maintenance (steering rack being the biggie, brakes, worn bushings, make sure your car can be properly aligned..etc) front and rear whiteline sway bars springs and shocks.. or coilovers nice sized wheels with good tires j30 lsd You will have a very nice and very fun to drive car at this point. Theres really nothing more to do handling/suspension wise for a daily driver, even weekend autox. Then go on to power. __________________ Last edited by planb; 03-09-2003 at 11:57 PM..

03-10-2003, 02:41 PM	#19
russian Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dallas TX Age: 41 Posts: 1,336 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	5k to have is shiznet.... personally i wont go Sr20 only (and the only) one reason, its illegal, so limits the circle of people you could sell the car to in case (severe) emergency, also worry about inspection & maintainance( someone already said parts are expensive). If i were you, i would get F-max turbo ($3800), get suspension (eibach + Koni= 700) and the rest you can spend on an exhaust (5zigen, hks or apexi = all around say 600) after that you can do strut bars, headers or whichever direction you want, even if you still want a show car...) if pure show, get the best(in my mind) body kit which is ING, its around 2200$... very sweet and its hybrid material, prety strong and flexible. ) __________________ I must break you.