Foam chassis stiffening

[97240sxle]

Has anyone actually used foam as a means to stiffen their chassis and if they have what has been their experience... good or bad. No detail is not worth mentioning. Any and all experience is welcome.

Before anyone tells me to use the search or google I have... Extensively. I have come across many "has anyone?" threads but none with any actually doing it or with any long term updates. I did read an article in Modified that they did it to their drift car project but and experienced positive results but nothing further.

Please no trolling or "I heard from a friend who heard from his cousin who heard from a bartender who heard from a hooker who heard from a co-worker that her boyfriend foamed his pillars and they blew up causing death, destruction and mayhem" (for the smart asses out there I know the use of death, destruction and mayhem is redundant because the word mayhem implies the other two words)

[brndck]

Either you don't know how to use the search button or you don't know how to use the search button. There are over a dozen threads on Zilvia alone on this very subject.

I'm feeling nice.

Here's one.

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t...oam+stiffening

[rawgarage]

tons of info on this...

[jr_ss]

Originally Posted by brndck

Either you don't know how to use the search button or you don't know how to use the search button. There are over a dozen threads on Zilvia alone on this very subject.

I'm feeling nice.

Here's one.

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t...oam+stiffening

Check join date, he doesn't know how to use it yet...

[TheRealSy90]

What is this Wangan Midnight?

[ixfxi]

i thought about it

problem was, you end up limiting yourself in case you ever need to service that section of the car.

for example, what if you want to run wires, or do paintless dent removal, or weld... all of that is an issue. plus theres the possibility that it could retain moisture.

[97240sxle]

I have read dozens of articles on people doing this and how miraculous it is. But what I'm interested in is weeks... Months... Years later. Any regret? Problems? Things unforeseen at the time of modification that later proved costly. Not give me this crap that just because of join date this my first forum or experience on a forum. If in my months of searching I have read 8 articles on people doing the foam but zero on months or years later... Good or bad. I apologize if my original post was a little vague or misinterpreted.

[97240sxle]

Originally Posted by brndck

Either you don't know how to use the search button or you don't know how to use the search button. There are over a dozen threads on Zilvia alone on this very subject.

I'm feeling nice.

Here's one.

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t...oam+stiffening

I've read it. But once again no follow up. Did he have further mods that were hindered by the mod. Did he over look something that I could learn from his experience. Several of the articles that I have read I've PMd with no reply. Once again.... Weeks... Months... Years later. I understand the people that do it think its the shit. But what of down the line?

[Hoffman5982]

I did mine about 4 years ago. No regrets. It definitely made the car sound more solid. It still sounds more solid than most other 240's I ride in, but everything else rattles now as it has gotten older. I had to pull my dash and carpet, doing this added on about an extra day, so I'd say it's worth it. My god was it messy though.

[97240sxle]

Originally Posted by Hoffman5982

I did mine about 4 years ago. No regrets. It definitely made the car sound more solid. It still sounds more solid than most other 240's I ride in, but everything else rattles now as it has gotten older. I had to pull my dash and carpet, doing this added on about an extra day, so I'd say it's worth it. My god was it messy though.

What brand of foam did you use? What would you have done differently? Any advice going in? Which parts did you do? Can you contribute the rattling of the ar to the foam injections?

[Hoffman5982]

I used Great Stuff, in the red can. I did the A,B, and C pillars, the rails under the front seats, and the dead space under the doors. Only thing I would have done different was pulled the tubes for water drainage on the sunroof out a little so there was some slack. My the foam dried it pull mine out of place, but I had enough to put in a coupler and rejoin it back to the duct. Wear clothes you don't care about. It gets everywhere.

The rattles are not from the foam. It's from under the dash and in the rear speaker tray area. I just need to go in and and tighten stuff up

[97240sxle]

Originally Posted by Hoffman5982

I used Great Stuff, in the red can. I did the A,B, and C pillars, the rails under the front seats, and the dead space under the doors. Only thing I would have done different was pulled the tubes for water drainage on the sunroof out a little so there was some slack. My the foam dried it pull mine out of place, but I had enough to put in a coupler and rejoin it back to the duct. Wear clothes you don't care about. It gets everywhere.

The rattles are not from the foam. It's from under the dash and in the rear speaker tray area. I just need to go in and and tighten stuff up

Would you do the frame rails?

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by Hoffman5982

I used Great Stuff, in the red can. I did the A,B, and C pillars, the rails under the front seats, and the dead space under the doors. Only thing I would have done different was pulled the tubes for water drainage on the sunroof out a little so there was some slack. My the foam dried it pull mine out of place, but I had enough to put in a coupler and rejoin it back to the duct. Wear clothes you don't care about. It gets everywhere.

The rattles are not from the foam. It's from under the dash and in the rear speaker tray area. I just need to go in and and tighten stuff up

Great stuff? Thats not chassis stiffening foam, thats just home depot foam.

Google chassis stiffening foam. Its industrial grade that usually costs a few hundred bucks. It does not hold moisture and will actually increase rigidity.

Malays going at it - shop there specializes in this:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1474994/all

[Style]

Read this:
http://www.dow.com/webapps/lit/litor...4.pdf&pdf=true

Then do a google search and find out where you buy this stuff from.
http://www.dowautomotive.com/capabil...y/betafoam.htm

[crzsteveo]

Originally Posted by 97240sxle

Would you do the frame rails?

do not do the frame rails. it will keep in moisture and rust your rails from the inside out.

this is why. did this when I was 16. my first 240. rusty turd.

http://www.slidewaysonline.com/Forum....php?f=8&t=249