Journey to hit 430+whp with a T28...Lets find out.

[PoorMans180SX]

I hope you realize that exhaust manifold's collector flows like dog crap.

[jspaeth]

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

I hope you realize that exhaust manifold's collector flows like dog crap.

Hahahaha man that was so blunt

[Z28ricer]

I'm betting you dont put down that impressive on the numbers either, the main reason being you started with the 2871, and then added the big compressor cover, however this still sticks you with the 53.8mm exhaust wheel used in the GT2860RS/GT2871, if you had started with an actual 3071R, then you'd have the 60mm turbine side, and the potential to make more power, and that external gated housing is avail for the 60mm wheel, which makes me really go "yeah shoulda done it this way"

For a good example of what I mean, take a look at the factory GTiR turbo vs the S14/15 T28, the gtir has a smaller T3 compressor housing, the same compressor wheel, yet its rated for 2 lbs/min more airflow due to the 79 trim exhaust vs the S14/15's 62 trim.

[S13 curtis]

Originally Posted by Z28ricer

I'm betting you dont put down that impressive on the numbers either, the main reason being you started with the 2871, and then added the big compressor cover, however this still sticks you with the 53.8mm exhaust wheel used in the GT2860RS/GT2871, if you had started with an actual 3071R, then you'd have the 60mm turbine side, and the potential to make more power, and that external gated housing is avail for the 60mm wheel, which makes me really go "yeah shoulda done it this way"

For a good example of what I mean, take a look at the factory GTiR turbo vs the S14/15 T28, the gtir has a smaller T3 compressor housing, the same compressor wheel, yet its rated for 2 lbs/min more airflow due to the 79 trim exhaust vs the S14/15's 62 trim.

I already had a 2871R to begin with so i decided to use it.... Also if i decided to go with a 30R it definately wouldnt be a 3071 it would be an HTA3076R or something better because these turbos are actually pretty outdated now so to say.

[Z28ricer]

Yeah, I figured, i'm sure it will still perform well, I just dont see it doing anything spectacular due to the smaller exhaust wheel.

[idahotuner]

[quote=codyace;3603074]Whatever happened to the last 2871r you had? And the motor as well?

/quote]
motor is sitting in my garage. just need to put the oil pan on and cams in. should be going in the car this weekend.

[Z33dori]

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

I hope you realize that exhaust manifold's collector flows like dog crap.

factual fact is factual

[S13 curtis]

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

I hope you realize that exhaust manifold's collector flows like dog crap.

Im pretty sure the manifold will flow better than an unported stock manifold, and yea the collectors on these t2 manifolds suck.

[S13 curtis]

Well im back in the states now and I actually got a chance to check my car out for the first time and man it is huge and i mean huge compared to the regular 2871, pics dont say much but in person its a big difference and by the way the exhaust housing is T3 .72 a/r with a T2 flange bolt pattern on it if nobody gets this i will explain. The last piece comes in today which is a silicone coupler i was missing. I should have the car started probly tomorrow and i will try to get a startup and walk around video for you guys.

[S13 curtis]

Pics of the finishing touches and by the way im back in orlando to get this done! Pics i snapped:









Fittings under intake manifold:





Compare Old vs. New

Old:


New:


On with the pics:





















My Evo & S13






Royal Purple added:






So everything is pretty much looked over and done now.
jus need another tire before the dyno.

[idahotuner]

looking good man. ready for some detailed dyno numbers

[coolxmas]

I'm planning doing the same kind of setup but I will start from a T2 gt3071r that has 56.5mm exhaust wheel and 4" comp inlet also...I will wait for your numbers to see if it worth the extra work of going this turbine housing vs regular one

[coolxmas]

By regular one I mean the standard 0.64-WG

My S14 stock T28 is just sold now so there is no way back and winter is coming here...my car is parked till next spring

[S13 curtis]

Originally Posted by idahotuner

looking good man. ready for some detailed dyno numbers

Should have dyno numbers up tomorrow evening. The was car is at the shop today to get tuned but ran into wiring problems so tomorrow should be a graph for you guys.

[S13 curtis]

Well long story short, It had to be re-wired 2 day proces then finally getting it started Put it on the dyno not even 1 complete pull and a Cam Gear comes off and there goes my motor. FML im fuckin pissed and i paid for all the wireing and partial tuning $600 bucks and motor went to shit... I jus have bad luck. Journey is over, im going to part this car out someone else can finish this off.

[Weedm]

this sucks. really bad. ._.; sorry to hear man. If I were in your shoes id be eating a donkey right now.

make a thread for your items and I may buy a few things. want those kouki tails definitely.

[efrain240sx]

dang that really sucks man

[let5l1de]

Sorry to hear about the tuning day.

PM me about engine building? Very reasonable prices, short turn around and reliable.

~mario
GR Performance

[BiG MiKE86]

Wow that blows... LMK if u wanna part the block only and possibly the turbo kit

[Slidin' Sam]

did the cam gear actually fall off, or did it fall out of adjustment and mess up the timing, thus destroying the motor?

[RurouniMidnight]

Damn this sucks i was hoping to see what kinda numbers it would put down, really intrested in using the external exhaust housing later on when i upgrade my turbo. Sorry to hear motors breaking is never a cool thing.

[Om1kron]

haha damn what a slap in the fucking face.

[S13 curtis]

Originally Posted by Slidin' Sam

did the cam gear actually fall off, or did it fall out of adjustment and mess up the timing, thus destroying the motor?

Cam Bolt came all the way loose and Timing all fucked up and Valve connecting with piston isnt good.

[nieko]

Decided not to torque it or what?

sounds wack that the bolt just backed the fuck out.........................



sorry to hear though bro

[fishboi]

Should have used red loctite on those bolts. How much did you spend on this build? I can't believe this happened.

[dj12]

damn i was really hoping to see some numbers. sorry to hear mang.

[S13 curtis]

Originally Posted by nieko

Decided not to torque it or what?

sounds wack that the bolt just backed the fuck out.........................



sorry to hear though bro

I guess my "Friend" was really careless when he put it togeather, keep in mind I was in Korea and he put it togeather for me, swore up and down it was done right, he messed up the wiring which caused it to be at the shop for 2 days with map sensor short with 12v instead of 5v and all fucked up wiring, costed $300 in wiring and a 2 day delay in dyno time. Then he didnt double check the cam gears when he put it togeather and torqued it down if it even was. The motor blew due to carelessness and not having parts properly installed. Never again will I trust someone other then myself or a professional shop to work on any of my cars.

Like the tuner straight up told me, "you can pop the hood of my car and tell just by looking that there was alot of money put into it, but that means nothing if parts wern't installed correctly,I don't want to have anything to do with this car because it wasnt put togeather right, A Real friend woundnt half ass it, You can tell he didnt give a fuck because it wasnt his car."

I 100% agree with him on that.




The pics dont do it justice you have to see it in person.

Originally Posted by fishboi

Should have used red loctite on those bolts. How much did you spend on this build? I can't believe this happened.

I jus belive they were never torqued down to spec.

Alot of money, i tried to make the most elite 2871 setup while still staying bottom mounted. The build def has over $3k in parts.

[Geno750]

You didn't hear it rattling? I had one start to back out on me and it was louder than hell.

[S13 curtis]

Originally Posted by Geno750

You didn't hear it rattling? I had one start to back out on me and it was louder than hell.

Car had the cutout open and it was way too loud to hear anything until something broke,and car was breaking up.

[codyace]

What a fuckin bummer brother! Man that was the last thing I could imagine ever happening to a car that was freshly done...hell I felt sick to my stomach when I recently mis stabbed the CAS off a tooth and the car didn't run for shit...I could only imagine if I was 'your friend' that bombed the engine....damn

Originally Posted by fishboi

Should have used red loctite on those bolts. How much did you spend on this build? I can't believe this happened.

I wouldn't EVER use loctite on the main bolts that hold the cam gears to the cams...hell they are darn near 100ft lbs of torque as it is...

unless you're talking about on those stupid slider things, which I wouldn't ever ever ever use....they always come loose and fuck up IMO.