Build for Drift beginners?

[zangetsu1223]

my name is Jean and i am trying to get in the drifting scene and i have just started saving up..i think i got 2k for now and i plan to raise it up to 5k and i am looking for a 240sx so that i could turn it into a drift machine..any ideas? suggestions? sites?


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[new2sr20]

Ill be nice, which most on here wont be, trust me.

Try dealerships, ebay, auctions, autotrader, craigslist, local newspaper.

if its something ur gonna beat up on, just find something with as little as rust as possible that runs since ur probably gonna hit shit with it when drifting.

[xoxide]

Find a stock 240 on craigslist. Buy the biggest bodykit you can, a fake bride seat, some emusa coilovers, and weld your diff (pinion to spool is usually the best way to do it)...

Thats pretty much the basis to every professional built drift car.

[racepar1]

Lots of stickers and the car has to be a TOTAL piece of shit. Preferrably it should leak oil uncontrollably, smoke, cut-out randomly, and have wires hanging all over the place. When in doubt with wiring use the house style twist-connectors, those are rad for drifting. Also every single piece of bodywork MUST be held on with zip-ties. If not your ride will never be "drift ready"...

[zangetsu1223]

Originally Posted by racepar1

Lots of stickers and the car has to be a TOTAL piece of shit. Preferrably it should leak oil uncontrollably, smoke, cut-out randomly, and have wires hanging all over the place. When in doubt with wiring use the house style twist-connectors, those are rad for drifting. Also every single piece of bodywork MUST be held on with zip-ties. If not your ride will never be "drift ready"...

tnx for the advice i guess


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[Zenki_Kouki.5]

Heres my set up drifting with a stock 95 KA24DE
Intake, Exhaust , Zoom Stage 2 4 Puck clutch ,aluminum rad , e fans , short shifter, with all the emissions deleted.
Suspension :
Megan Track Coilovers, Cusco Front strut Bar, Some God speed tension rods, and stance subframe bushings and a welded diff.
This setup was good enough for me and lasted since 2010 ,

[badass8]

I started with a s13 coupe with KYB lower springs bought it for $2100 with a rebuilt KA24DE, still runs like a champ. Starting stock is the best way to go so you actually learn how your car handles. Stock as in go to your first event with just that. No welded diff, not even lower springs like I had. Just simply learn your vehicle. Then after you have learned your vehicle go for a stiffer suspension, stiffer the better for drifting, my next upgrade for the drift car was PBM coilovers(love them, stiff as hell) and weld the diff. Oh and I purchased a Koyo Radiator because I found my stock KA overheating at the first event. Now it runs cold on the freeways since I don't have the $$ to tow my car out, and it runs perfect at the events. I am no professional at drifting yet I am going to my 4th drift event this month with the following upgrade: PBM coilovers, Tein Inner Tie Rods, SPL Outer Tie Rods, just replaced steering rack bushings, modded stock s13 knuckles (more angle), Sparco Racing Seat, and a NRG HUB, NRG QR, and Nardi steering wheel (so the wheel sits closer to me).

I hope this gives you a little idea of what to do.

[zangetsu1223]

Originally Posted by badass8

I started with a s13 coupe with KYB lower springs bought it for $2100 with a rebuilt KA24DE, still runs like a champ. Starting stock is the best way to go so you actually learn how your car handles. Stock as in go to your first event with just that. No welded diff, not even lower springs like I had. Just simply learn your vehicle. Then after you have learned your vehicle go for a stiffer suspension, stiffer the better for drifting, my next upgrade for the drift car was PBM coilovers(love them, stiff as hell) and weld the diff. Oh and I purchased a Koyo Radiator because I found my stock KA overheating at the first event. Now it runs cold on the freeways since I don't have the $$ to tow my car out, and it runs perfect at the events. I am no professional at drifting yet I am going to my 4th drift event this month with the following upgrade: PBM coilovers, Tein Inner Tie Rods, SPL Outer Tie Rods, just replaced steering rack bushings, modded stock s13 knuckles (more angle), Sparco Racing Seat, and a NRG HUB, NRG QR, and Nardi steering wheel (so the wheel sits closer to me).

I hope this gives you a little idea of what to do.

good luck on your upcoming event dude and yeah it definitely helps man..i work at autozone and im familiar with that KYB coils also that PBM is it any good? and what about differentials? where can i get good ones?

this is "kind of" my wishlist:
mishimoto radiator
enkei rims
megan coils
greddy exhaust
KN intake
turbonetics
sparco seats


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[badass8]

Originally Posted by zangetsu1223

good luck on your upcoming event dude and yeah it definitely helps man..i work at autozone and im familiar with that KYB coils also that PBM is it any good? and what about differentials? where can i get good ones?

this is "kind of" my wishlist:
mishimoto radiator
enkei rims
megan coils
greddy exhaust
KN intake
turbonetics
sparco seats


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Thanks man. I like PBM because they are stiff in other words I wouldn't want to daily drive on PBMs. If you are on a budget id say Megan's I was planning on those but I figured I should go big so I spent the $1200. I wouldn't purchase expensive 17inch+ wheels at first I am running stock 15inch SE wheels because they are small and very easy to spin the wheels, which is needed for an under powered KA.

You need to make plans and figure out what you want to do. Like is the 240sx going to be a track car or a daily and a drift car. Do you plan to keep the KA and turbo it or just keep it stock and wait till it blows up to swap in a different engine.

For my plans I am waiting for the KA to blow up to swap in a v8. Only thing I did was better cooling which is key for a drift car since your beating the shit out of it. Message me if you have any more questions


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[zangetsu1223]

Originally Posted by xoxide

Find a stock 240 on craigslist. Buy the biggest bodykit you can, a fake bride seat, some emusa coilovers, and weld your diff (pinion to spool is usually the best way to do it)...

Thats pretty much the basis to every professional built drift car.

lol that fake bride seats kind of cracked me up..anyway that emusa coilovers are they any good? cuz ive never heard of them..


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[zangetsu1223]

Originally Posted by new2sr20

Ill be nice, which most on here wont be, trust me.

Try dealerships, ebay, auctions, autotrader, craigslist, local newspaper.

if its something ur gonna beat up on, just find something with as little as rust as possible that runs since ur probably gonna hit shit with it when drifting.

hey i appreciate it man and yeah im definitely gonna beat on it..also, i was keeping track of the 240s in craigslist and i found a couple of them there..they got rolling shells, stocks and KAs from 2.5k to 6k..


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[zo0d]

I heard 240s are not good for drifting.

[zangetsu1223]

Originally Posted by zo0d

I heard 240s are not good for drifting.

yo are u serious?,u know most of the drifters use 240sx or have used it..


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[racepar1]

Originally Posted by zangetsu1223

yo are u serious?,u know most of the drifters use 240sx or have used it..


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Yeah, he's totally serious. Civics are best for drifting...



Your "kind-of wishlist" sucks BTW.

Look, we see this EXACT SAME THREAD once a month. You really need to invest more of your time learning a lot of stuff. Make zilvia a part of your daily routine. Search here and on google for "drift car setup" and "drifting techniques" and start to develop a basic knowledge of what you want to do. Once you've got a basic knowledge, go to some drift events, talk to people, learn stuff. You can't learn everything you want by posting a dumbass thread asking to be spoonfed information when you don't even really know what information you want or need. This doesn't happen overnight. It takes YEARS of dedication and research to become knowledgeable in what you want to know.

I would advise you to initially focus more on learning to ACTUALLY DRIVE the car before you just jump into drifting. Drifting is a driving technique, NOT a sport. It is not the first one you need to learn. Go to some trackdays and spend some time with their instructors. Get comfortable driving a car ACTUALLY FAST and develop some basic driving techniques. This basic foundation is necessary if you want to be any good at drifting.

[xoxide]

I seriously regret seeing this guys location....

[zangetsu1223]

Originally Posted by xoxide

I seriously regret seeing this guys location....

now why is that?


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[zangetsu1223]

Originally Posted by racepar1

Yeah, he's totally serious. Civics are best for drifting...



Your "kind-of wishlist" sucks BTW.

Look, we see this EXACT SAME THREAD once a month. You really need to invest more of your time learning a lot of stuff. Make zilvia a part of your daily routine. Search here and on google for "drift car setup" and "drifting techniques" and start to develop a basic knowledge of what you want to do. Once you've got a basic knowledge, go to some drift events, talk to people, learn stuff. You can't learn everything you want by posting a dumbass thread asking to be spoonfed information when you don't even really know what information you want or need. This doesn't happen overnight. It takes YEARS of dedication and research to become knowledgeable in what you want to know.

I would advise you to initially focus more on learning to ACTUALLY DRIVE the car before you just jump into drifting. Drifting is a driving technique, NOT a sport. It is not the first one you need to learn. Go to some trackdays and spend some time with their instructors. Get comfortable driving a car ACTUALLY FAST and develop some basic driving techniques. This basic foundation is necessary if you want to be any good at drifting.

well yeah dude i know that it takes years but it dont hurt to ask ya know and thats how i learn too..
there arent really tracks here in j-ville so if i ever get one, i dont know where to take it and yes i totally agree on that part when u said that posting threads here and there wont make u a good drifter but while im saving up money for that 240sx i want to get the most ideas that i can..organize them..

ive been looking at videos and threads like the drift bible, drifting.com, etc and i dont want to be spoonfed either because i know its all through hardwork man..

it might stupid and ridiculous for ya but this would help me avoid some of the basic crap that needs to be avoided when getting started..


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[zangetsu1223]

Originally Posted by racepar1

Yeah, he's totally serious. Civics are best for drifting...



Your "kind-of wishlist" sucks BTW.

Look, we see this EXACT SAME THREAD once a month. You really need to invest more of your time learning a lot of stuff. Make zilvia a part of your daily routine. Search here and on google for "drift car setup" and "drifting techniques" and start to develop a basic knowledge of what you want to do. Once you've got a basic knowledge, go to some drift events, talk to people, learn stuff. You can't learn everything you want by posting a dumbass thread asking to be spoonfed information when you don't even really know what information you want or need. This doesn't happen overnight. It takes YEARS of dedication and research to become knowledgeable in what you want to know.

I would advise you to initially focus more on learning to ACTUALLY DRIVE the car before you just jump into drifting. Drifting is a driving technique, NOT a sport. It is not the first one you need to learn. Go to some trackdays and spend some time with their instructors. Get comfortable driving a car ACTUALLY FAST and develop some basic driving techniques. This basic foundation is necessary if you want to be any good at drifting.

and hey i appreciate u being honest bro and one more question, civics really? i know u can drift FWDs but civics?..i know you are talking about the EGs, EKs and others


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[Livid_240sx]

Originally Posted by zangetsu1223

and hey i appreciate u being honest bro and one more question, civics really? i know u can drift FWDs but civics?..i know you are talking about the EGs, EKs and others Tapatalk

Dude, you can't drift a civic.

Source: I own a 2000 si.


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[new2sr20]

Originally Posted by racepar1

Yeah, he's totally serious. Civics are best for drifting...



Your "kind-of wishlist" sucks BTW.

Look, we see this EXACT SAME THREAD once a month. You really need to invest more of your time learning a lot of stuff. Make zilvia a part of your daily routine. Search here and on google for "drift car setup" and "drifting techniques" and start to develop a basic knowledge of what you want to do. Once you've got a basic knowledge, go to some drift events, talk to people, learn stuff. You can't learn everything you want by posting a dumbass thread asking to be spoonfed information when you don't even really know what information you want or need. This doesn't happen overnight. It takes YEARS of dedication and research to become knowledgeable in what you want to know.

I would advise you to initially focus more on learning to ACTUALLY DRIVE the car before you just jump into drifting. Drifting is a driving technique, NOT a sport. It is not the first one you need to learn. Go to some trackdays and spend some time with their instructors. Get comfortable driving a car ACTUALLY FAST and develop some basic driving techniques. This basic foundation is necessary if you want to be any good at drifting.

damn Racepar1...thats the nicest thing Ive seen you say on zilvia...you going soft damnit!!!!!???

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by new2sr20

damn Racepar1...thats the nicest thing Ive seen you say on zilvia...you going soft damnit!!!!!???

The kid is just so clueless. It's kind of like beating a puppy...

[CharCharXD]

The noob bashers of zilvia strike again lol

[zangetsu1223]

Originally Posted by CharCharXD

The noob bashers of zilvia strike again lol

yo charchar your name is familiar..are u by any chance that same charchar from psn?


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[brndck]

poor lil fella. he never even knew what hit him.....

[zangetsu1223]

Originally Posted by brndck

poor lil fella. he never even knew what hit him.....

man, of course i mean shit i just moved to this country like 2 years ago so i really dont know so why dont ya enlighten me?


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[DJ 21o3]

Sadly you already found out that zilvia is ruthless to the noobies. We have all been there, but sometimes it is best to keep quiet. lol that is what I personally learned. You will catch on with time. Keep an eye on open threads where you might be able to ask a quick question without getting flamed. Just don't thread jack. The main issue people have here is using the search. There is a reason for that: 99% of things have been covered AT LEAST twice. lol It might take time but search. If you can't find the answer, look for the "Small Questions" thread.

As for the guy above saying he has PBM coils, that doesn't really help you. It is the spring rates that you want to know about. I don't know what PBM runs stock, but spring rates really make a difference in stiffness. Like Fortune Auto runs 8k front and 6k rear springs (I think), yet I know i will be ordering my set with 10k front and 8k rear.

I am going to shoot down your fanboi dreams here but forget about all parts you think you want unless you really know about them. With a 5k budget, good luck. I will be spending over 3k in suspension components alone this winter and that doesn't even include my 5 lug swap, rims, tires, and brakes. Forget about engine swaps. Buy a stock 240 and change only the suspension and weld up the diff. Push the piss out of that car and get used to that. Believe me, 150hp is more than enough contrary to popular belief. A 2jz or RB26 are both insane swaps that will result in your death or you selling the unfinished project out of rage. Keep it simple. KA-t, SR20, maybe a 1Jz, Rb20 or RB25. But focus on handling first. I have a car with a relatively stock SR20 but I am putting all of my focus on suspension first. The best drivers (yes, drivers. not just drifters) always recommend learning with a low powered car. Take that advice and take small steps.

You might not have tracks in the area, but keep an eye out on local forums for drift events. People sometimes organize events in large open parking lots, just like they do with auto-x. Just keep it off the streets. Yes we all "accidentally" kick the clutch going around an on/off ramp every now and then, but don't make it an every day occurrence.

Good luck, reality is going to hit you hard...I was prepared and I know it sat me down!

[zangetsu1223]

Originally Posted by DJ 21o3

Sadly you already found out that zilvia is ruthless to the noobies. We have all been there, but sometimes it is best to keep quiet. lol that is what I personally learned. You will catch on with time. Keep an eye on open threads where you might be able to ask a quick question without getting flamed. Just don't thread jack. The main issue people have here is using the search. There is a reason for that: 99% of things have been covered AT LEAST twice. lol It might take time but search. If you can't find the answer, look for the "Small Questions" thread.

As for the guy above saying he has PBM coils, that doesn't really help you. It is the spring rates that you want to know about. I don't know what PBM runs stock, but spring rates really make a difference in stiffness. Like Fortune Auto runs 8k front and 6k rear springs (I think), yet I know i will be ordering my set with 10k front and 8k rear.

I am going to shoot down your fanboi dreams here but forget about all parts you think you want unless you really know about them. With a 5k budget, good luck. I will be spending over 3k in suspension components alone this winter and that doesn't even include my 5 lug swap, rims, tires, and brakes. Forget about engine swaps. Buy a stock 240 and change only the suspension and weld up the diff. Push the piss out of that car and get used to that. Believe me, 150hp is more than enough contrary to popular belief. A 2jz or RB26 are both insane swaps that will result in your death or you selling the unfinished project out of rage. Keep it simple. KA-t, SR20, maybe a 1Jz, Rb20 or RB25. But focus on handling first. I have a car with a relatively stock SR20 but I am putting all of my focus on suspension first. The best drivers (yes, drivers. not just drifters) always recommend learning with a low powered car. Take that advice and take small steps.

You might not have tracks in the area, but keep an eye out on local forums for drift events. People sometimes organize events in large open parking lots, just like they do with auto-x. Just keep it off the streets. Yes we all "accidentally" kick the clutch going around an on/off ramp every now and then, but don't make it an every day occurrence.

Good luck, reality is going to hit you hard...I was prepared and I know it sat me down!

tnx man that was really an eye opener for me and now i know where to start with..imma go more in depth in my research to get more info and as for the flaming, it gets annoying sure, but ill still ask questions man..

damn, necessito mucho cash for sure but one quick question though, how much should i save up to get a car and get some decent mods that will help me practice drifting?

"accidentally" lol anyway after i get my 240,
ill be attending that saturday meet in my area to gather some more info..i also know about one area that they use to drag..


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[DJ 21o3]

Not sure about the Florida market but I picked up my SR powered S13 for 5k. You can probably find a decent KA powered S-chassis for 2500-3000. Then i wouldnt spend less than 1000 on coils unless they are on sale. Parts by Max (PBM) probably would work for you. I am personally going with Fortune Auto 500. Weld your diff, then spend some money on some more power (Intake, headers, exhaust) and cooling. Keep spending money to keep the car reliable while you save up money to do things right. You get what you pay for, so i recommend trying to get nothing but good parts. You might be able to get the ISIS suspension arms (Ryan Tuerck runs them on his missile so they cant be too bad for a beater). Handling is key to drifting. Power just makes it more insane once you have the basics.

[zangetsu1223]

Originally Posted by DJ 21o3

Not sure about the Florida market but I picked up my SR powered S13 for 5k. You can probably find a decent KA powered S-chassis for 2500-3000. Then i wouldnt spend less than 1000 on coils unless they are on sale. Parts by Max (PBM) probably would work for you. I am personally going with Fortune Auto 500. Weld your diff, then spend some money on some more power (Intake, headers, exhaust) and cooling. Keep spending money to keep the car reliable while you save up money to do things right. You get what you pay for, so i recommend trying to get nothing but good parts. You might be able to get the ISIS suspension arms (Ryan Tuerck runs them on his missile so they cant be too bad for a beater). Handling is key to drifting. Power just makes it more insane once you have the basics.

i gotcha..the market here is pretty good from my point of view because i saw a couple of 240s on craigs that look fairly well and at low price..oh yeah as for welding your diff,can u add more info? and imma dig up the thread that talks about it..allright imma put on my training wheels take one step at a time..


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[DJ 21o3]

Originally Posted by zangetsu1223

i gotcha..the market here is pretty good from my point of view because i saw a couple of 240s on craigs that look fairly well and at low price..oh yeah as for welding your diff,can u add more info? and imma dig up the thread that talks about it..allright imma put on my training wheels take one step at a time..


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I dont have personal experience with welded, but you can tell when someone has one. Google it, there is plently of info out there. I have a clutch type LSD in my S13 and love it...noisey but I like it. I am glad I never had to deal with welded diffs.