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JaeTea · 06-15-2005, 10:43 AM

I usually run 205/55's all around.

Last event I tried running my new Dunlops (205/55) and my car wouldn't break loose for shit.

It just gripped like crazy.

I have a set of 15x6.5's that I was going to run 195/60's on and use those for the rear and the Dunlops up front.

I just wanted to know if anyone had any experience running narrower rear tires for drift events. Any negatives, positives?

Dousan_PG · 06-15-2005, 10:51 AM

which dunlops
you were probably going to slow and not high enough or staying in the poewr (above 5k range)

ka you dont drop below that
clutch kick is your friend

i always ran 205/55 all around
195 60 felt sloppy imo

JaeTea · 06-15-2005, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

which dunlops
you were probably going to slow and not high enough or staying in the poewr (above 5k range)

FM901's.

I actually had someone else drive my car at one point (who's waaaaay better than me) and he was having problems getting the rear to break loose. He had me switch the rears to some run down tires after one run.

Given the Dunlops were brand new but it seems shitty to have to burn up new tires to be able to drift on them.

Dousan_PG · 06-15-2005, 11:10 AM

no excuses
i used to ALWAYS run FM901s on the rear of my s13 w/ 205/55/15 and it broke and kept loose they are great tires
few problems
you are probably too low on RPM

and your rear alignment,if you are toe'd in you will have problems keeping it loose
check your alignment!!

but if you say Fm901s are too sticky for KA ill fucking kick you in the nuts because i ALWAYS ran either FM901s and ES100s on the back of my car for at least 1.5 to 2 years!

NO EXCUSES!! its your car and driver, not the tires!!!!!

m0rex · 06-15-2005, 03:15 PM

Yeah i tried drifting with slicks it sucks.

ciGARRETTsRbad4u · 06-15-2005, 07:29 PM

what mods do you have for your car?
my last set of tires i bought were 205's which was a mistake if you have a 6.5inch wide wheel because the steering response was really sluggish than with a 195

KiDyNomiTe · 06-15-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ciGARRETTsRbad4u

what mods do you have for your car?
my last set of tires i bought were 205's which was a mistake if you have a 6.5inch wide wheel because the steering response was really sluggish than with a 195

You left out more important info. Were they 15s, 16s, etc... 60s, 55s etc...

You will be fine with 195s 205s and 215s, I've used them all on an SOHC KA, even running on 3 cylinders at one point. Something else is the problem.

Giant Robot · 06-15-2005, 08:28 PM

if i can break loose with 17x9.5 225-45-17's, you needn't be having problems with 15's nad 205's.....

dousan already said it but i will re-iterate it again... with KA you need to constantly be flooring it, no hesitation of letting off for entry and mid drift....and dont be soft at turning in with the steering wheel, you need to be violent with the steering wheel entry as well......

with narrower tires in the back your car will be really rear end snappy, wont be able to go faster and a alot more biased to oversteer

infinitexsound · 06-15-2005, 08:37 PM

Dousan is GREAT i love that guy LOL.... dude i can break my rear loose with 205, im running 711 z rated...
running the stock KA u can break it loose easily till 225, but i have to admit when i had the mustang wheels on, i was breaking it loose at 245. but it wasnt predictable keeping it loose.. and i felt like i was driving a monster truck...

asiangento · 06-15-2005, 09:20 PM

too much rear camber?

MakotoS13 · 06-15-2005, 10:17 PM

have you ever considered that maybe you just suck at driving?

i mean seriously, i bet someone could which leads me to believe that you aren't trying hard enough.

m0rex · 06-16-2005, 04:31 AM

He is right up until now i just realized that i had once 235/60/16 on my stock ka and i drifted that shit like no other they were some kind of potenzas. Wider tires just makes me go faster = drive better not suck at drifting. Check if anything is wrong with your suspension then if nothing is wrong with it go practice because you sure aint making progress thinking those tires can grip.

infinitexsound · 06-16-2005, 01:24 PM

wider tires are great, taller tires blows like hiliary duff's first time....... having a wider tire,means u gotta have the HP to back it up...

that180guy · 06-16-2005, 02:15 PM

i wanna be hillary duff's 1st time

HyperTek · 06-16-2005, 02:19 PM

remove front strut bar if u have one. =D

infinitexsound · 06-16-2005, 02:58 PM

doesnt everybody, fuck the olsens, im waiting for hilary's porno to be released...

JaeTea · 06-16-2005, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakotoS13

have you ever considered that maybe you just suck at driving?

Could be I need more practice... but I've also considered you can't read for shit.

TheSnail · 06-16-2005, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinitexsound

doesnt everybody, fuck the olsens, im waiting for hilary's porno to be released...

Yall like this hefer looking woman?

Touring240 · 06-16-2005, 05:51 PM

its all about lohan

**ThatGuy** · 06-16-2005, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Touring240

its all about lohan

Actually it's all about tires. Stick to the topic of the thread.

06-15-2005, 10:43 AM	#1
JaeTea Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: EC Posts: 967 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: JaeTea Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Narrow rear tires I usually run 205/55's all around. Last event I tried running my new Dunlops (205/55) and my car wouldn't break loose for shit. It just gripped like crazy. I have a set of 15x6.5's that I was going to run 195/60's on and use those for the rear and the Dunlops up front. I just wanted to know if anyone had any experience running narrower rear tires for drift events. Any negatives, positives? __________________ KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!KILL!

06-15-2005, 10:51 AM	#2
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 45 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	which dunlops you were probably going to slow and not high enough or staying in the poewr (above 5k range) ka you dont drop below that clutch kick is your friend i always ran 205/55 all around 195 60 felt sloppy imo __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

06-15-2005, 11:10 AM	#4
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 45 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	no excuses i used to ALWAYS run FM901s on the rear of my s13 w/ 205/55/15 and it broke and kept loose they are great tires few problems you are probably too low on RPM and your rear alignment,if you are toe'd in you will have problems keeping it loose check your alignment!! but if you say Fm901s are too sticky for KA ill fucking kick you in the nuts because i ALWAYS ran either FM901s and ES100s on the back of my car for at least 1.5 to 2 years! NO EXCUSES!! its your car and driver, not the tires!!!!! __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

06-15-2005, 08:37 PM	#9
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 42 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dousan is GREAT i love that guy LOL.... dude i can break my rear loose with 205, im running 711 z rated... running the stock KA u can break it loose easily till 225, but i have to admit when i had the mustang wheels on, i was breaking it loose at 245. but it wasnt predictable keeping it loose.. and i felt like i was driving a monster truck... __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

06-16-2005, 01:24 PM	#13
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 42 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wider tires are great, taller tires blows like hiliary duff's first time....... having a wider tire,means u gotta have the HP to back it up... __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

06-15-2005, 03:15 PM	#5
m0rex Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,070 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah i tried drifting with slicks it sucks.

06-15-2005, 07:29 PM	#6
ciGARRETTsRbad4u Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: California Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	what mods do you have for your car? my last set of tires i bought were 205's which was a mistake if you have a 6.5inch wide wheel because the steering response was really sluggish than with a 195

06-15-2005, 08:28 PM	#8
Giant Robot Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bucketheadland Posts: 105 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if i can break loose with 17x9.5 225-45-17's, you needn't be having problems with 15's nad 205's..... dousan already said it but i will re-iterate it again... with KA you need to constantly be flooring it, no hesitation of letting off for entry and mid drift....and dont be soft at turning in with the steering wheel, you need to be violent with the steering wheel entry as well...... with narrower tires in the back your car will be really rear end snappy, wont be able to go faster and a alot more biased to oversteer

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asiangento Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Santa Ana Age: 39 Posts: 148 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	too much rear camber?

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MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 41 Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	have you ever considered that maybe you just suck at driving? i mean seriously, i bet someone could which leads me to believe that you aren't trying hard enough.

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m0rex Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,070 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	He is right up until now i just realized that i had once 235/60/16 on my stock ka and i drifted that shit like no other they were some kind of potenzas. Wider tires just makes me go faster = drive better not suck at drifting. Check if anything is wrong with your suspension then if nothing is wrong with it go practice because you sure aint making progress thinking those tires can grip.

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06-16-2005, 05:51 PM	#19
Touring240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 432 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	its all about lohan