No more smog for 1996 and Older cars in CA in 2024+?

[StorminMatt]

Originally Posted by mav1178

this is the primary reason why the existing rules won't change, because there is simply too much urban development to improve air quality as-is, so there will be zero chance of existing rules being relaxed or exempt.

This is assuming that smog checks, especially those with strict visual rules, actually help improve air quality. When it comes to 1995 and older vehicles, this is doubtful due to their very low numbers.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by StorminMatt

This is assuming that smog checks, especially those with strict visual rules, actually help improve air quality. When it comes to 1995 and older vehicles, this is doubtful due to their very low numbers.

so until data is presented that proves otherwise, the existing rules will stay in place...

[KA24DESOneThree]

Originally Posted by mav1178

so until data is presented that proves otherwise, the existing rules will stay in place...

I disagree that California would change its mind based on data. It has one of the biggest datasets at its fingertips already and hasn't made any positive decisions for classic and vintage car owners and, if anything, has made it harder to directly import a car since 2017.

Certain aspects of the law are in the best interest of air quality. Other aspects don't make sense- why should direct import cars 1968 through 1975 adhere to CA standards of the time when there's no testing done on those cars if purchased from within the States? It's such a small part of the market, why beat it up?

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

I disagree that California would change its mind based on data. It has one of the biggest datasets at its fingertips already and hasn't made any positive decisions for classic and vintage car owners and, if anything, has made it harder to directly import a car since 2017.

Certain aspects of the law are in the best interest of air quality. Other aspects don't make sense- why should direct import cars 1968 through 1975 adhere to CA standards of the time when there's no testing done on those cars if purchased from within the States? It's such a small part of the market, why beat it up?

that's why I said "data is presented"

there's no lack of data. there is a lack of presenting this in a convincing manner to CARB for them to change their mind or provide exemptions moving forward.

us complaining about this just does the same thing from 20 years ago; getting nowhere. and the more people try to circumvent the existing smog system the worse it gets, as the data (to CARB) will show that plenty of people want to break the law.