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jspeedm · 11-05-2008, 04:25 PM

nissan could make a 2.0 turbo 280hp 2700lbs but then why would anyone buy a z-car? with specs like that in the 20k-22k range, the Z would be pointless. just like the s13 this will be an entry level "Baby Z". don't expect nissan to produce a car that will compete in sales with the Z. that would just be stupid. the Z is their sports car. this will be an economical car that you can have a lot of fun with.

Rummel Autosport · 11-17-2008, 02:57 PM

this could be a cool little car if done right. It would be up to the aftermarket to see how much support they will offer and how crazy it could get. I will pick one of these up and see what I can make for it, and of course see if there is any way to stuff a VK56 in it, or at least some kind of much larger engine that will have no problem burning tires off.

It would only be a matter of time before dummy modules came out to trick the stability, or whatever "anti-fun devices" they put in it, so that doesnt worry me too much. If people want it someone will sell it to you. thats just simple economics.

allntrlundrgrnd · 11-17-2008, 03:17 PM

econo-box.

i hate renderings

jim1234664 · 12-03-2008, 01:29 PM

mr20de what a let down... only 137 bhp?

the sr20de was more than that almost 20 years ago.

what a disapointment if that is the engine choice

JeremyR · 12-04-2008, 01:30 PM

nissan already offers 3 cars that are more or less the same and share the same purpose.
altima
sentra
maxima

all of them come in 4 door versions. does nissan really need 3 4 door sedans?
different price points is why this works.

you want a nissan sedan, but dont want to drop 35k on a maxima
so instead you buy a altima for 25k
wait, stil out your budget? dont sorry, we have the sentra starting under 15k

now lets try it with sports cars.

you want a nissan sports car, and obviously you aint got 100k for a gt-r.
so then you move to the z, but it looks like a catfish and you dont want to drop 35k on one either. so then we move down to the new fr coupe thats in the 20-25k range.

HMM seems only logical

this car wont hurt z car sales.
it will have alot less power. est. 200-250hp.
new z has 330.

and the new z will have tons more torque by far.
sure the new fr coupe will weigh less, but it wont have the power of the z.

nissan has always had about 2-3 cars in there sports car lineup.

the gt-r really doesnt fit into any nissan catagory, the average nissan buyer wont be buying this. so this car doesnt fit into this picture.

so stop saying its gonna take z sales. it wont.
thats like saying the sentra takes sales from the altima and maxima, it doesnt.

personally i would like to see the sr20vet in this new car. although i think the power output on this motor is a little high for what nissan wants to do with this car.

jspeedm · 12-12-2008, 04:58 PM

that's what i'm saying. the smaller engine is better for nissan. if they used the near 300hp sr20vet it would take Z sales. look at the altima/maxima. when they started offering the 3.5 in the altima, the maxima became almost pointless. and despite how much we want nissan to do what we want, they are in the business of selling cars. and yes, two cars based on the same platform with similar power will compete with each other and nissan will lose money. not a good business move. no matter how much power it has most of you will either buy it or want to buy it in hopes of maybe swaping in the 3.5, 3.7, 3.8 anyway. so why would nissan have it compete on the sales side?

Gnnr · 12-12-2008, 07:44 PM

xdarkrune, you make a valid argument. Giving it just the right amount of power and careful marketing/pricing Nissan can pull it off.

EDacIouSX · 12-12-2008, 08:47 PM

it looks like a freaken hyundai of the early 2000s

BustedS13 · 12-13-2008, 04:43 PM

side and rear are nice
FR is nice
front is a little iffy but i'll wait for the final project before waah-ing

jdm538 · 12-13-2008, 05:28 PM

im saving up for a car that doesnt even exist. i wonder when these renderings will become the next actual car model.

11-17-2008, 03:17 PM	#33
allntrlundrgrnd Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,481 Trader Rating: (17) Rides Gallery: allntrlundrgrnd Feedback Score: 17 reviews	econo-box. i hate renderings __________________ https://www.instagram.com/kook_180sx

12-12-2008, 04:58 PM	#36
jspeedm Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SoCal 562 Age: 45 Posts: 1,680 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	that's what i'm saying. the smaller engine is better for nissan. if they used the near 300hp sr20vet it would take Z sales. look at the altima/maxima. when they started offering the 3.5 in the altima, the maxima became almost pointless. and despite how much we want nissan to do what we want, they are in the business of selling cars. and yes, two cars based on the same platform with similar power will compete with each other and nissan will lose money. not a good business move. no matter how much power it has most of you will either buy it or want to buy it in hopes of maybe swaping in the 3.5, 3.7, 3.8 anyway. so why would nissan have it compete on the sales side? __________________

12-12-2008, 07:44 PM	#37
Gnnr Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: S. FL Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	xdarkrune, you make a valid argument. Giving it just the right amount of power and careful marketing/pricing Nissan can pull it off. __________________

12-13-2008, 04:43 PM	#39
BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 39 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	side and rear are nice FR is nice front is a little iffy but i'll wait for the final project before waah-ing __________________

11-05-2008, 04:25 PM	#31
jspeedm Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SoCal 562 Age: 45 Posts: 1,680 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	nissan could make a 2.0 turbo 280hp 2700lbs but then why would anyone buy a z-car? with specs like that in the 20k-22k range, the Z would be pointless. just like the s13 this will be an entry level "Baby Z". don't expect nissan to produce a car that will compete in sales with the Z. that would just be stupid. the Z is their sports car. this will be an economical car that you can have a lot of fun with.

11-17-2008, 02:57 PM	#32
Rummel Autosport Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 43 Posts: 225 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	this could be a cool little car if done right. It would be up to the aftermarket to see how much support they will offer and how crazy it could get. I will pick one of these up and see what I can make for it, and of course see if there is any way to stuff a VK56 in it, or at least some kind of much larger engine that will have no problem burning tires off. It would only be a matter of time before dummy modules came out to trick the stability, or whatever "anti-fun devices" they put in it, so that doesnt worry me too much. If people want it someone will sell it to you. thats just simple economics.

12-03-2008, 01:29 PM	#34
jim1234664 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 227 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	mr20de what a let down... only 137 bhp? the sr20de was more than that almost 20 years ago. what a disapointment if that is the engine choice

12-12-2008, 08:47 PM	#38
EDacIouSX Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 38 Posts: 4,565 Trader Rating: (53) Rides Gallery: EDacIouSX Feedback Score: 53 reviews	it looks like a freaken hyundai of the early 2000s

12-13-2008, 05:28 PM	#40
jdm538 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: LA/OC SOCAL Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (30) Feedback Score: 30 reviews	im saving up for a car that doesnt even exist. i wonder when these renderings will become the next actual car model.