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S@nt0s · 11-04-2012, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Slo_240sx

S@ntos you're crazy lol. Stock sleeves and bolts at that power level.. Glad its working for you because I know damn sure it wouldn't work in my favor!

I wish I had all the equipment like I had at my old shop in Detroit. I'd be machining the craziest things too lol

So far so good lol
Here at my base I got all the goodies in my shop 2 mills a lathe a CNC lol

ForeignMuscle · 11-04-2012, 04:46 PM

Plenty of people use factory main bolts. That Ashton guy makes over 730fwhp with GTiR main bolts. I really don't know what all the fuss is about sleeves either. I mean, you are around the limit I'm sure Santos. But e85's cooling effects take care of the heat issues and I just don't see the problem with <600hp. You shouldn't have problems distorting your block or lifting the head. Santos, I think your car just popped a gasket from seeing 35+psi with zero load.

Like I said earlier, people get to caught up in what they read from these "big shots" on the forums. Just because the general consensus is "well you need this for xx horsepower" doesn't mean it's true. People say things without testing their own theory first hand. I've seen these cars lay down huge power without having ten grand in the short block.

I'm ready to join the big boy crew with you Santos. May we have many low 6 second time slips ahead of us!!

S@nt0s · 11-04-2012, 06:01 PM

Ya the zero load/ 2step I'm sure was the cause.
I do not think I am at the limit for the sleeves but we will find out. I will push her till she cracks and eve then I might not sleeve it lol

Slo_240sx · 11-04-2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeignMuscle

But e85's cooling effects take care of the heat issues and I just don't see the problem with <600hp.

I think this is the biggest reason why its lasted.. E85 is like magic lol.

Let me know when you guys are ready to play, my drag S13 should be done by the end of the year!

S@nt0s · 11-04-2012, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Slo_240sx

I think this is the biggest reason why its lasted.. E85 is like magic lol.

Let me know when you guys are ready to play, my drag S13 should be done by the end of the year!

Hopefully I'm ready to play come this weekend then do some testing before Vegas

ForeignMuscle · 11-08-2012, 08:03 AM

Santos what did you do for a downpipe? I ordered my turbo and I'm reading that it has a 2.5" t31 turbine housing.. I thought a turbo this size would definitely have a 3" exit.

S@nt0s · 11-08-2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeignMuscle

Santos what did you do for a downpipe? I ordered my turbo and I'm reading that it has a 2.5" t31 turbine housing.. I thought a turbo this size would definitely have a 3" exit.

is your rear housing v-band?
mine came v-band and i just have a 3" v-band Downpipe

ForeignMuscle · 11-08-2012, 08:41 AM

Yea but are you t4? I called Precision myself and they said t3 is not offered with a 3" vband exit. It's the t31 which is 2.5" inside diameter..

ForeignMuscle · 11-08-2012, 08:44 AM

Just reread your post that says t3. Man something is up here.. I've spoken with the people that build them and the dealers now and they do not make a 3" exit for t3.... wait, do you have a v band inlet as well?? They said v band inlet and outlet was the only way..

Flicktitty · 11-08-2012, 08:51 AM

My buddies PT5858 with a T3 and a "3"Vband" i believe is actually a 2.5"

ForeignMuscle · 11-08-2012, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Flicktitty

My buddies PT5858 with a T3 and a "3"Vband" i believe is actually a 2.5"

Your exactly right. It is called a "t31" housing and they use it all the way up to their 76mm units!!! What the heck lol, give me a damn 3" exit with my big ole turbo, geez people..

ForeignMuscle · 11-08-2012, 08:55 AM

By the way Santos, don't hate me, but I ordered the 5858. It still supports 600+hp and it comes on to boost a lot sooner than the 62. I drive my car a lot so I wanted it to be more streetable and overall just have a fatter powerband.

S@nt0s · 11-08-2012, 09:43 AM

no problem with that mine was a drag set up so lag wasnt something i cared about.

i had to go look at pictures of my turbo when i got it because i didnt remember but i welded a 3" vband on it. min ecame with a 4bolt DP backside.

ForeignMuscle · 11-08-2012, 09:49 AM

That's what I'm thinking about doing.. Did the 3" v band fit over the original flange?
Also, how did you weld it? Did you heat the housing up to 600*F before hand and use a Nickel filler?

Thanks for the help btw..

S@nt0s · 11-08-2012, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeignMuscle

That's what I'm thinking about doing.. Did the 3" v band fit over the original flange?
Also, how did you weld it? Did you heat the housing up to 600*F before hand and use a Nickel filler?

Thanks for the help btw..

hell no i removed the housing threw it on the table and welded the flange on the housing with ER70 rod.
i have pics i email/text you of when i welded it on

zurud · 11-11-2012, 02:41 AM

What's transmission do you guys use?. My transmission output shaft just snap during launch. The cost of installing z32 or z33 transmission is almost the cost of 1jz swap.

S@nt0s · 11-11-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by zurud

What's transmission do you guys use?. My transmission output shaft just snap during launch. The cost of installing z32 or z33 transmission is almost the cost of 1jz swap.

No it isn't that much I have a z32 set up

ForeignMuscle · 11-11-2012, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by zurud

What's transmission do you guys use?. My transmission output shaft just snap during launch. The cost of installing z32 or z33 transmission is almost the cost of 1jz swap.

What have you been smoking? Z32 transmissions sell for $200 all day long. The install kit is $500 maybe?

2muchboost · 11-12-2012, 10:03 AM

So for you S14 chassis guys, 15x9 with 6.5 bs or 15x10 with 6.5 bs? I am currently selling my RX7 Setup to fund my 15" setup since I will need as much traction as possible. I am thinking the 9's will do but I have seen many S14 guys fit the 10s but it is a very tight fit in there with them. Looking at RaceStar Wheels due to the design of the wheel. Typically they allow z32 rear calipers to fit better then Welds from what I have been told....again not first hand knowledge.

http://zilvia.net/f/wheels-tires/487...26x11-5-a.html

Prob looking to stick 27x11.5x15 Tires under the rear fenders. Hopefully I will just need a roll and a slight pull with the 15s. Need to stuff as much tire as possible under there for this setup.

jr_ss · 11-12-2012, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeignMuscle

What have you been smoking? Z32 transmissions sell for $200 all day long. The install kit is $500 maybe?

That depends on what kit you go with. I'm not a fan of flywheel spacers... Although you may be able to find the transmissions for $200 it's worth the extra cash to either rebuild or purchase a new 98+ Z32 trans. Generally speaking, they all tend to have the 2nd and/or 4th gear grinds. I had mine rebuilt last year and I'm looking forward to butter smooth shifts.

Zurud- you are high to think a trans swap would cost as much as a 1jz swap, good god...

ForeignMuscle · 11-12-2012, 11:01 AM

jr ss, Your probably right about the transmission grinds. I couldn't have that either.

Santos, what are some ideas on going automatic. It may be in my near future. I've seen a number of adapter plates in Australia but not much state side. Is z32 auto an option?

ForeignMuscle · 11-12-2012, 11:31 AM

Looks like LeverTen is the place for factory built autos. I was hoping for something from maybe the z32 TT that would hold around 500hp factory but I may be dreaming.

Might be shelling out $4k for a LevelTen eventually..

S@nt0s · 11-12-2012, 12:41 PM

Power glide will be the cheapest but we used a c4 in my dads old set up. Worked great but can't go wrong with a glide,c4,th350/400

ForeignMuscle · 11-12-2012, 01:13 PM

Where do you get plates to run these is what I'm asking. I would want something streetable too so a glide it's out of the question for me.

jr_ss · 11-12-2012, 01:36 PM

Yes, level ten is quite pricey, but I haven't seen or heard of anyone else that does factory built auto trannies for Nissan's... The stock auto shits the bed and starts to slip clutches around the 400-500wtq mark on the VGs if I'm not mistaken.

S@nt0s · 11-12-2012, 03:14 PM

Transmission Adapters & Spacers | NC Transmission
NC can make whatever you want just give them a call we used their c4 to 3t on our old car

Mazworx as well makes a adapter plate

ForeignMuscle · 11-12-2012, 08:55 PM

Thanks for the link Santos. I might look into a th400 or C4 myself.

Hoping to have my pile of parts by next week. I'm ready to hear this new turbo rip.

krysknowles · 11-13-2012, 01:05 PM

my new wheels

ForeignMuscle · 11-13-2012, 04:19 PM

You dog!! I love 'em! Best looking wheel you can get for a drag setup. I'm thinking about going with these in a 17x9 all around and have two 15's for the track.

S@nt0s · 11-14-2012, 07:33 AM

well peoples the S13 will be gone, my good friend ( previous owner) dropped off a chuck of change and will be taking my car as a roller. i still have my powerplant/drivetrain which will be sold.
Me and my brother are finishing up a corolla that will be hitting the track in the next 2-3 months.
its been fun and ill still be around so im not out the game

11-04-2012, 06:01 PM	#633
S@nt0s Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 310 all day! Age: 43 Posts: 912 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Ya the zero load/ 2step I'm sure was the cause. I do not think I am at the limit for the sleeves but we will find out. I will push her till she cracks and eve then I might not sleeve it lol __________________ MunkyW3rkz Racing

11-08-2012, 08:51 AM	#640
Flicktitty Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 37 Posts: 3,685 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	My buddies PT5858 with a T3 and a "3"Vband" i believe is actually a 2.5" __________________ 2JZ-GTE Swapped S13 Coupe - 1994 Supra Turbo

11-08-2012, 09:43 AM	#643
S@nt0s Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 310 all day! Age: 43 Posts: 912 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	no problem with that mine was a drag set up so lag wasnt something i cared about. i had to go look at pictures of my turbo when i got it because i didnt remember but i welded a 3" vband on it. min ecame with a 4bolt DP backside. __________________ MunkyW3rkz Racing

11-12-2012, 10:03 AM	#649
2muchboost Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Age: 40 Posts: 2,183 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	So for you S14 chassis guys, 15x9 with 6.5 bs or 15x10 with 6.5 bs? I am currently selling my RX7 Setup to fund my 15" setup since I will need as much traction as possible. I am thinking the 9's will do but I have seen many S14 guys fit the 10s but it is a very tight fit in there with them. Looking at RaceStar Wheels due to the design of the wheel. Typically they allow z32 rear calipers to fit better then Welds from what I have been told....again not first hand knowledge. http://zilvia.net/f/wheels-tires/487...26x11-5-a.html Prob looking to stick 27x11.5x15 Tires under the rear fenders. Hopefully I will just need a roll and a slight pull with the 15s. Need to stuff as much tire as possible under there for this setup. Last edited by 2muchboost; 11-12-2012 at 12:14 PM..

11-12-2012, 12:41 PM	#653
S@nt0s Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 310 all day! Age: 43 Posts: 912 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Power glide will be the cheapest but we used a c4 in my dads old set up. Worked great but can't go wrong with a glide,c4,th350/400 __________________ MunkyW3rkz Racing

11-04-2012, 04:46 PM	#632
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Plenty of people use factory main bolts. That Ashton guy makes over 730fwhp with GTiR main bolts. I really don't know what all the fuss is about sleeves either. I mean, you are around the limit I'm sure Santos. But e85's cooling effects take care of the heat issues and I just don't see the problem with <600hp. You shouldn't have problems distorting your block or lifting the head. Santos, I think your car just popped a gasket from seeing 35+psi with zero load. Like I said earlier, people get to caught up in what they read from these "big shots" on the forums. Just because the general consensus is "well you need this for xx horsepower" doesn't mean it's true. People say things without testing their own theory first hand. I've seen these cars lay down huge power without having ten grand in the short block. I'm ready to join the big boy crew with you Santos. May we have many low 6 second time slips ahead of us!!

11-08-2012, 08:03 AM	#636
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Santos what did you do for a downpipe? I ordered my turbo and I'm reading that it has a 2.5" t31 turbine housing.. I thought a turbo this size would definitely have a 3" exit.

11-08-2012, 08:41 AM	#638
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Yea but are you t4? I called Precision myself and they said t3 is not offered with a 3" vband exit. It's the t31 which is 2.5" inside diameter..

11-08-2012, 08:44 AM	#639
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Just reread your post that says t3. Man something is up here.. I've spoken with the people that build them and the dealers now and they do not make a 3" exit for t3.... wait, do you have a v band inlet as well?? They said v band inlet and outlet was the only way..

11-08-2012, 08:55 AM	#642
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	By the way Santos, don't hate me, but I ordered the 5858. It still supports 600+hp and it comes on to boost a lot sooner than the 62. I drive my car a lot so I wanted it to be more streetable and overall just have a fatter powerband.

11-08-2012, 09:49 AM	#644
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	That's what I'm thinking about doing.. Did the 3" v band fit over the original flange? Also, how did you weld it? Did you heat the housing up to 600*F before hand and use a Nickel filler? Thanks for the help btw..

11-11-2012, 02:41 AM	#646
zurud Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: evansville, in Posts: 391 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	What's transmission do you guys use?. My transmission output shaft just snap during launch. The cost of installing z32 or z33 transmission is almost the cost of 1jz swap.

11-12-2012, 11:01 AM	#651
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	jr ss, Your probably right about the transmission grinds. I couldn't have that either. Santos, what are some ideas on going automatic. It may be in my near future. I've seen a number of adapter plates in Australia but not much state side. Is z32 auto an option?

11-12-2012, 11:31 AM	#652
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Looks like LeverTen is the place for factory built autos. I was hoping for something from maybe the z32 TT that would hold around 500hp factory but I may be dreaming. Might be shelling out $4k for a LevelTen eventually..

11-12-2012, 01:13 PM	#654
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Where do you get plates to run these is what I'm asking. I would want something streetable too so a glide it's out of the question for me.

11-12-2012, 01:36 PM	#655
jr_ss Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pa Posts: 6,412 Trader Rating: (35) Feedback Score: 35 reviews	Yes, level ten is quite pricey, but I haven't seen or heard of anyone else that does factory built auto trannies for Nissan's... The stock auto shits the bed and starts to slip clutches around the 400-500wtq mark on the VGs if I'm not mistaken. __________________ My SR20VET Does your VTC gear rattle in your S14/15 SR? PM me.

11-12-2012, 03:14 PM	#656
S@nt0s Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 310 all day! Age: 43 Posts: 912 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Transmission Adapters & Spacers \| NC Transmission NC can make whatever you want just give them a call we used their c4 to 3t on our old car Mazworx as well makes a adapter plate __________________ MunkyW3rkz Racing

11-12-2012, 08:55 PM	#657
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Thanks for the link Santos. I might look into a th400 or C4 myself. Hoping to have my pile of parts by next week. I'm ready to hear this new turbo rip.

11-13-2012, 01:05 PM	#658
krysknowles Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 67 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	my new wheels

11-13-2012, 04:19 PM	#659
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	You dog!! I love 'em! Best looking wheel you can get for a drag setup. I'm thinking about going with these in a 17x9 all around and have two 15's for the track.

11-14-2012, 07:33 AM	#660
S@nt0s Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 310 all day! Age: 43 Posts: 912 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	well peoples the S13 will be gone, my good friend ( previous owner) dropped off a chuck of change and will be taking my car as a roller. i still have my powerplant/drivetrain which will be sold. Me and my brother are finishing up a corolla that will be hitting the track in the next 2-3 months. its been fun and ill still be around so im not out the game __________________ MunkyW3rkz Racing