what do u think about this issue of SCC - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Loofee95SE · 03-24-2002, 08:07 PM

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'> ppl ..what do u think about this issue of Sport compact car?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> what is your oppinion about the growing population of 240sx
good and bad effect that will happen...
what do u think?? will it help us on the aftermaket product!!??
will it be another ..Honda Civic..??? ( u all know what i mean..)
anyway..I like the car tho..and if any 1 red it..do u think we can make a S13 Silvia under 3K $<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'>

*Jeff240sx* · 03-24-2002, 11:15 PM

What month issue?  How long are the articles?
I looked thru one at Wal-Mart.  Didn't see a single 240, cept a s15 racer.
-Jeff

bing · 03-24-2002, 11:18 PM

there is an s13 silvia and the cover...

i saw it today and ran through it, i will buy it shortly...

i thought it would be old news but iguess this is a recent issue

there is like 10 pages of installs and 3 240s in total i beleive...

good issue

Takumi · 03-24-2002, 11:23 PM

http://www.zilvia.net/f....;t=7367

This was posted already.  Just to let you know.

tnord · 03-24-2002, 11:42 PM

i know this has been discussed before, but it mighta been on NICO

anyway, the conclusion was that the car isn't made anymore, and they didn't make enough of em to start with that very many people can get their hands on them, and when people do get them (like we do) we don't like to give them up.

ijon03 · 03-25-2002, 12:39 AM

That right .
I got mine couple months ago it 97 after my 93 get hit pretty bad and the insurance think it is not worth to fix it so when i get my check from the insurance i search for one and i buy this one with very low milage only 34,000 on it.But I just found this forum so mine haven't been moded yet i just put N1 Cat back the rest its coming

Peace <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

*transient* · 03-25-2002, 07:41 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ Mar. 25 2002,01:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">anyway, the conclusion was that the car isn't made anymore, and they didn't make enough of em to start with that very many people can get their hands on them, and when people do get them (like we do) we don't like to give them up.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
That tells you something about the quality of the car  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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gschroeder78 · 03-25-2002, 10:08 AM

I think any newbie should go out and buy that issue because it gives alot of information about the differances and such. I personally thought the how-to conversion will be valuable to me when it comes time to do it myself. Anyways, I give it to enthusiatic thumbs up!  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

Yoshi · 03-25-2002, 12:27 PM

I hate it! And here's why:

http://pub28.ezboard.com/fveloci....7.topic

will · 03-27-2002, 09:03 AM

Kinda late here but, I barely got my issue Monday,  decent write up, looks like they did some reasonable research before the writing.  But I can only assume that the prices are gonna go up on everything Silvia related.  From steering wheels to valve covers to grills.  Just look at the Honda/Acura scene, $5500 for a damn B18C5 and for what 195HP and 127lb ft of torque???  Even the GSR engine is kinda high, next thing you know there will be companies like APC developing ricey products soley for the 240.
This issue kinda got me thinking, well you can only publish so many issues of a Civic with (insert your favorite Honda motor here) B18C, B18C5, H22, B20 etc.  So what can do to a Honda that hasn't already been some 50 times over???  
They needed something new and why not jump on the 240/Silvia bandwagon???  It'll sell cuz its fresh, see any latest SS mag, they used to suck bad, total rice, they've gotten a little better but still....should've known they were gonna come after us someday...
[/venting]

-will

MorganS13 · 03-27-2002, 11:59 AM

hey, if some dumb kid will pay $7k (what i paid 4 years ago) for my car someday after i'm done beating it up, then hey, i won't be complainin  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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VERTiG0 · 03-27-2002, 01:39 PM

Yeah, I bought that issue just to read how stupid they are.  $3000 USD to do that?  Yeah, if you have your own huge goddamn garage with the works.  It'll cost you so much more if you're like 99% of the people that will do it.  

The thing is, people around here (70% Portuguese and Italian) think that they're the ugliest cars ever, because they have popup headlights, and think that the Silvias are even uglier because they're so square looking.  That's why they like Hondas.  And that's what I want them to keep liking.

MorganS13 · 03-27-2002, 02:44 PM

i'm surprised to no one mentioned how they got a 180 front clip (minus bodywork) for $1,500 out of a junk yard in Cali. that sure brought down the cost quite a bit... plus they got the Silvia fenders, hood, bumper and headlights for just $500.  talk about a good deal  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>

DrDubbleB · 03-27-2002, 02:53 PM

Yeah, I even called that company just for shits and giggles, of course, after being mentioned in SS, their prices are more than other places even.  I'm sure they were before, but just hooked up SS to get their name out there.

drift into a curb · 03-27-2002, 02:57 PM

Which issue of SCC is this?  Maybe I missed it, but just checking.

BlackS14 · 03-27-2002, 03:37 PM

It's the May issue of SCC we are all speaking of......I just got the mag the other day and read the whole thing through. I do believe some of thier quotes regarding prices for certain things like the clip and all are off, but of course that is due to the fact that they are a widely published mag that has tons of readers....advertisement my friends. Consider yourself lucky if you ever find a front clip for the much.

I liked the write-up on Chris May's car.....I personally don't care for the overall look of the car (Erebuni kit and Bomex eye-mask), but give him tons of props for all the extensive work he went through to get those numbers from the KA (of course it was tens of thousands of dollars, but hey). Chris was the pioneer when trying to get huge numbers out of the KA and also happened to be the first guy I called when looking to for someone to answer some questions I had regarding turbocharging the KA. He was such a nice guy and answered every question I had.....ended up being a $15 phone call....yikes, but it was well worth it.

Anyways, congrats to Chris and MArcos for getting thier cars into the mag and I hope to see more of us in thier eventually...not too many of us though <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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-Bill

bing · 03-27-2002, 03:37 PM

i don think they are that hard to get...

there are 48 for sale in southern ontario alone, and i see s13's all day

Agent_S13 · 03-27-2002, 03:43 PM

If I remember correctly, Dave Coleman (wrote the article) started to contact a lot of people on the FA Forum. He got a lot of his information from there. This was a while back (maybe a year ago) when he started this project. Back then, the swap wasn't that popular and Venus-Auto (the place they got the clip/body panels) did sell it at that price (From what Demon said, he's worked w/ Venus before I think). I'm nearby so I wouldn't mind going up there to visually inspect what they have, but I prefer to spend my money on my edu-ma-kay-shun for now and do the swap when I'm outta school.

I'm guessing that they did this swap a long time ago and finally finished it to publish in the latest issue of SCC. If you want more proof, look at the KA-T car in there. Chris May (forgive me if that isn't the owner) said that they came out to do the story/pics over a year ago and now its finally an article. They do a lot of these stories in advance, which was well before F&F came out (a movie that helped inform a lot of people about the SR engine) and before many people knew about the swap. It only seems natural now for the Venus to raise their prices because of higher demand. The great thing is that other importers are realizing that SR engines are popular and have asked to receive them along with their Honda B-engines. I still think you can find an engine with everything attached, but its just going to take a smart buyer to know what to look for. I am worried that those who hop on the bandwagon pick up SR's w/ no MAFs, no ECU's, or cut harness' and convince the importers that they can cut costs that way and think that no one cares as long as the "engine" is there.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Wow what a long post... that's my $0.02 about this. I sure hope I didn't confuse anybody.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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-Aaron
'91 240sx coupe

P.S. I'm bored at work... sorry haha!

03-24-2002, 08:07 PM	#1
Loofee95SE Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gadsden, AL Posts: 357 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'> ppl ..what do u think about this issue of Sport compact car?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> what is your oppinion about the growing population of 240sx good and bad effect that will happen... what do u think?? will it help us on the aftermaket product!!?? will it be another ..Honda Civic..??? ( u all know what i mean..) anyway..I like the car tho..and if any 1 red it..do u think we can make a S13 Silvia under 3K $<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'> __________________ I need more Boost!

03-24-2002, 11:15 PM	#2
Jeff240sx I hate you too... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 41 Posts: 5,828 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Jeff240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What month issue?  How long are the articles? I looked thru one at Wal-Mart.  Didn't see a single 240, cept a s15 racer. -Jeff __________________ Whatup?

03-24-2002, 11:18 PM	#3
bing Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ontario canada Posts: 2,699 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	there is an s13 silvia and the cover... i saw it today and ran through it, i will buy it shortly... i thought it would be old news but iguess this is a recent issue there is like 10 pages of installs and 3 240s in total i beleive... good issue __________________ www.son240sx.org /// www.nyspeed.com

03-24-2002, 11:23 PM	#4
Takumi Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bay Area, CA Age: 43 Posts: 836 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://www.zilvia.net/f....;t=7367 This was posted already.  Just to let you know. __________________ 2000 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS (GC6) Yes, I am a devoted Scooby driver, but I still got love for the Nissans and I always will. =)

03-25-2002, 12:39 AM	#6
ijon03 Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Murfreesboro,TN Age: 48 Posts: 199 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That right . I got mine couple months ago it 97 after my 93 get hit pretty bad and the insurance think it is not worth to fix it so when i get my check from the insurance i search for one and i buy this one with very low milage only 34,000 on it.But I just found this forum so mine haven't been moded yet i just put N1 Cat back the rest its coming Peace <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> __________________

03-24-2002, 11:42 PM	#5
tnord Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i know this has been discussed before, but it mighta been on NICO anyway, the conclusion was that the car isn't made anymore, and they didn't make enough of em to start with that very many people can get their hands on them, and when people do get them (like we do) we don't like to give them up.

03-25-2002, 07:41 AM	#7
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 40 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ Mar. 25 2002,01:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">anyway, the conclusion was that the car isn't made anymore, and they didn't make enough of em to start with that very many people can get their hands on them, and when people do get them (like we do) we don't like to give them up.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> That tells you something about the quality of the car  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ Learn everything you can, while you still have the chance.

03-25-2002, 10:08 AM	#8
gschroeder78 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Westminster, CO Age: 45 Posts: 507 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think any newbie should go out and buy that issue because it gives alot of information about the differances and such. I personally thought the how-to conversion will be valuable to me when it comes time to do it myself. Anyways, I give it to enthusiatic thumbs up!  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> __________________ 1989 240SX Coupe -Eibach Prokit Springs -KYB AGX Struts -Apex-i N1 Dual Exhaust Westminster, CO

03-25-2002, 12:27 PM	#9
Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 47 Posts: 3,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I hate it! And here's why: http://pub28.ezboard.com/fveloci....7.topic __________________ www.360realms.com/S13-S15

03-27-2002, 09:03 AM	#10
will Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 250 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Kinda late here but, I barely got my issue Monday,  decent write up, looks like they did some reasonable research before the writing.  But I can only assume that the prices are gonna go up on everything Silvia related.  From steering wheels to valve covers to grills.  Just look at the Honda/Acura scene, $5500 for a damn B18C5 and for what 195HP and 127lb ft of torque???  Even the GSR engine is kinda high, next thing you know there will be companies like APC developing ricey products soley for the 240. This issue kinda got me thinking, well you can only publish so many issues of a Civic with (insert your favorite Honda motor here) B18C, B18C5, H22, B20 etc.  So what can do to a Honda that hasn't already been some 50 times over???   They needed something new and why not jump on the 240/Silvia bandwagon???  It'll sell cuz its fresh, see any latest SS mag, they used to suck bad, total rice, they've gotten a little better but still....should've known they were gonna come after us someday... [/venting] -will __________________ Honda's are like tampons, every pussy needs one 91-S13 coupe S13koop.net coming soon...

03-27-2002, 11:59 AM	#11
MorganS13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 707 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	hey, if some dumb kid will pay $7k (what i paid 4 years ago) for my car someday after i'm done beating it up, then hey, i won't be complainin  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

03-27-2002, 01:39 PM	#12
VERTiG0 Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 120 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, I bought that issue just to read how stupid they are.  $3000 USD to do that?  Yeah, if you have your own huge goddamn garage with the works.  It'll cost you so much more if you're like 99% of the people that will do it.   The thing is, people around here (70% Portuguese and Italian) think that they're the ugliest cars ever, because they have popup headlights, and think that the Silvias are even uglier because they're so square looking.  That's why they like Hondas.  And that's what I want them to keep liking.

03-27-2002, 02:44 PM	#13
MorganS13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 707 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i'm surprised to no one mentioned how they got a 180 front clip (minus bodywork) for $1,500 out of a junk yard in Cali. that sure brought down the cost quite a bit... plus they got the Silvia fenders, hood, bumper and headlights for just $500.  talk about a good deal  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>

03-27-2002, 02:53 PM	#14
DrDubbleB Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, I even called that company just for shits and giggles, of course, after being mentioned in SS, their prices are more than other places even.  I'm sure they were before, but just hooked up SS to get their name out there.

03-27-2002, 02:57 PM	#15
drift into a curb Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 2,870 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Which issue of SCC is this?  Maybe I missed it, but just checking. __________________ Go big or go home!

03-27-2002, 03:37 PM	#16
BlackS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Palm Bay, FL Age: 44 Posts: 384 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's the May issue of SCC we are all speaking of......I just got the mag the other day and read the whole thing through. I do believe some of thier quotes regarding prices for certain things like the clip and all are off, but of course that is due to the fact that they are a widely published mag that has tons of readers....advertisement my friends. Consider yourself lucky if you ever find a front clip for the much. I liked the write-up on Chris May's car.....I personally don't care for the overall look of the car (Erebuni kit and Bomex eye-mask), but give him tons of props for all the extensive work he went through to get those numbers from the KA (of course it was tens of thousands of dollars, but hey). Chris was the pioneer when trying to get huge numbers out of the KA and also happened to be the first guy I called when looking to for someone to answer some questions I had regarding turbocharging the KA. He was such a nice guy and answered every question I had.....ended up being a $15 phone call....yikes, but it was well worth it. Anyways, congrats to Chris and MArcos for getting thier cars into the mag and I hope to see more of us in thier eventually...not too many of us though <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> -Bill __________________ Once you go black you...well...you know.....lol!!!!

03-27-2002, 03:43 PM	#18
Agent_S13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 492 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	If I remember correctly, Dave Coleman (wrote the article) started to contact a lot of people on the FA Forum. He got a lot of his information from there. This was a while back (maybe a year ago) when he started this project. Back then, the swap wasn't that popular and Venus-Auto (the place they got the clip/body panels) did sell it at that price (From what Demon said, he's worked w/ Venus before I think). I'm nearby so I wouldn't mind going up there to visually inspect what they have, but I prefer to spend my money on my edu-ma-kay-shun for now and do the swap when I'm outta school. I'm guessing that they did this swap a long time ago and finally finished it to publish in the latest issue of SCC. If you want more proof, look at the KA-T car in there. Chris May (forgive me if that isn't the owner) said that they came out to do the story/pics over a year ago and now its finally an article. They do a lot of these stories in advance, which was well before F&F came out (a movie that helped inform a lot of people about the SR engine) and before many people knew about the swap. It only seems natural now for the Venus to raise their prices because of higher demand. The great thing is that other importers are realizing that SR engines are popular and have asked to receive them along with their Honda B-engines. I still think you can find an engine with everything attached, but its just going to take a smart buyer to know what to look for. I am worried that those who hop on the bandwagon pick up SR's w/ no MAFs, no ECU's, or cut harness' and convince the importers that they can cut costs that way and think that no one cares as long as the "engine" is there.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Wow what a long post... that's my $0.02 about this. I sure hope I didn't confuse anybody.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> -Aaron '91 240sx coupe P.S. I'm bored at work... sorry haha!