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Loofee95SE · 09-23-2002, 01:38 PM

Oh..sad day ...have to sell my S14...spilt half & half with my EX  ...but!! I'm getting a 93Rx7 TT a guy that i know is selling...I'm sad...And Happy in the same time... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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TheTimanator · 09-23-2002, 01:58 PM

Did you two split the car payments or something?  I thought you only had to split everything when you got a divorce. Go figure <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'> Have fun with the FD though

KyoLo · 09-23-2002, 02:22 PM

i believe RX7 is FR..and RX7 has too many troubles, it is fast, yes, twin-turbo ..but i would never recommend to buy the car, rotary engine f88ked up too fast, too many problems...
go to factory to fix the car every single week, so i have to pick him up once or twice every week or so...gosh...

adey · 09-23-2002, 03:05 PM

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> forget the girl, I'd dump anyone just to get into an FD!  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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That said, I hear the '93s were somewhat problematic (for whatever reason) and that '94s are a better choice if available.

Have fun with that thing man!

uuninja · 09-23-2002, 03:06 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KyoLo @ Sep. 22 2002,4:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i believe RX7 is FR..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
BWAHAHAH!

Dood he was talking about the chassis code. FD3S.

damn i woud kill for a FD if I could afford the insurance and cost of ownership.

rubbersidedown · 09-23-2002, 03:16 PM

all i hear about Rx7's is all the problems, but i guess if you put enough money into the engine when you get it then most of the future problems can be prevented, or something like that. They're definitely kick ass cars though.

240 2NR · 09-23-2002, 03:43 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uuninja @ Sep. 23 2002,4:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KyoLo @ Sep. 22 2002,4:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i believe RX7 is FR..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
BWAHAHAH!

Dood he was talking about the chassis code. FD3S.

damn i woud kill for a FD if I could afford the insurance and cost of ownership.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Maintaining it will cost more, but insurance is a different stroy.  I was originally going to get an FD, then tried for a 97 240.  The price difference for my insurance quotes was $7.  That's right, the 240 would have saved me $7 per year compared to a car that had a KBB value 50% higher, plus an extra 100hp and no backseat.  Go figure?!

Anubis · 09-23-2002, 04:32 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uuninja @ Sep. 22 2002,5:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KyoLo @ Sep. 22 2002,4:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i believe RX7 is FR..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
BWAHAHAH!

Dood he was talking about the chassis code. FD3S.

damn i woud kill for a FD if I could afford the insurance and cost of ownership.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
So its now front -engine, down wheel drive?

kanekz · 09-23-2002, 04:59 PM

My bro was a Rotary guy himself. He 1st gen and 2 FC's. 1st FC got crashed. 1st gen was sold. AND the other FC we still have. RX-7 CAN be problamtic. It just depends on the overall condition of the car, but also the extent MAINTANANCE. The earlier FC's had a few bugs in them, but were taken care of in the later FC's. As for FD's, I'm not to sure of. My friend's FD had a problem with his vacuum lines and turbo lag.

Now there is a 1988 10th Anniversary Edition FC with blown Apex Seals in front of my house.....that I AM SELLING. For pics and info, click here:
http://hometown.aol.com/djkanekz/rx7.html

whateverjames · 09-23-2002, 06:54 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (anubis9228 @ Sep. 23 2002,5:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteBegin--uuninja+Sep. 22 2002,5<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uuninja @ Sep. 22 2002,5<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>6)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KyoLo @ Sep. 22 2002,4:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i believe RX7 is FR..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
BWAHAHAH!

Dood he was talking about the chassis code. FD3S.

damn i woud kill for a FD if I could afford the insurance and cost of ownership.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
So its now front -engine, down wheel drive?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
wwwwrong! Front engine, diagonal wheel drive. the left front tire and the rear right tire. or the 96+ (not in the US) had right front, left rear drive.

aqwkmf · 09-23-2002, 07:06 PM

damn....can u guys be so dumb or are u just messing?

fd, fc, fb are all the first 2 letter of the vin number. aka chasis code.

i'll be selling my s13 soon to start saving for a fd of my own. i love rotary.

FREAK S14 · 09-23-2002, 07:40 PM

GOD I LOVE FD's LIKE MAD <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

My friend has an R1, and its is REAL nice....but he dishes alot of money into it...its worth it....if you have the money though....He always tells people who ask him how he likes it, he tells them he loves it....but there is no bottom to the hole he is throwing his money into...

DriftMonkey · 09-23-2002, 07:50 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote (anubis9228 @ Sep. 23 2002,5:32)
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Quote (KyoLo @ Sep. 22 2002,4:22)
i believe RX7 is FR..

BWAHAHAH!

Dood he was talking about the chassis code. FD3S.

damn i woud kill for a FD if I could afford the insurance and cost of ownership.

So its now front -engine, down wheel drive?

wwwwrong! Front engine, diagonal wheel drive. the left front tire and the rear right tire. or the 96+ (not in the US) had right front, left rear drive.

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haha funny shit...
i know a guy with a 2nd gen RX-7...he's had it in the shop for about 8 months so i never got to ride in it...someday..

*ca18guy* · 09-23-2002, 07:51 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (whateverjames @ Sep. 24 2002,1:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">wwwwrong! Front engine, diagonal wheel drive. the left front tire and the rear right tire. or the 96+ (not in the US) had right front, left rear drive.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
wwwwrong!  Its technically a mid engine car  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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SimpleS14 · 09-23-2002, 08:01 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ Sep. 22 2002,9:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">damn....can u guys be so dumb or are u just messing?

fd, fc, fb are all the first 2 letter of the vin number. aka chasis code.

i'll be selling my s13 soon to start saving for a fd of my own. i love rotary.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I think they are messin around  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'>

YellwMonky · 09-24-2002, 01:46 AM

<!--QuoteBegin--aqwkmf+Sep. 24 2002,6<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ Sep. 24 2002,6<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>6)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">damn....can u guys be so dumb or are u just messing?

fd, fc, fb are all the first 2 letter of the vin number. aka chasis code.

i'll be selling my s13 soon to start saving for a fd of my own. i love rotary.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">damn....can u guys be so dumb or are u just messing?

fd, fc, fb are all the first 2 letter of the vin number. aka chasis code.

i'll be selling my s13 soon to start saving for a fd of my own. i love rotary.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Is that right...? fb? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'> Somebody told me that it goes SA, FC, FD. Is that right? Or is there really an FB...? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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adey · 09-24-2002, 02:21 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rubbersidedown @ Sep. 23 2002,2:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">all i hear about Rx7's is all the problems, but i guess if you put enough money into the engine when you get it then most of the future problems can be prevented, or something like that. They're definitely kick ass cars though.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Okay... I don't mean to start anything with the Rotary haters here, but this seems to be a common misconception--

Rotaries (RX7s) are mainly "problematic" due to user error rather than design flaw.
For example, not changing the oil every ~2000 miles (+/- 500) on a rotary engine (rather than 3000 or more on piston-engine cars) or not making certain engine 'safety' mods (such as oil cooler upgrade) before turning up the boost etc. will lead, eventually, to engine failure. Most problems that you see on rotaries are caused by their owners not knowing how to properly maintain the engine rather than the engine being badly designed or made.
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gabossie · 09-24-2002, 04:00 PM

You are correct, it is technically SA, FC, FD. Many people though refer to the SA's as FB's just to keep it simple since most people have no idea what you are talking about if you refer to the SA. It's stupid, but that's just how it is  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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I would kill for an FD. I still plan on picking up an FC TII someday as a project car, just because rotaries are so cool and have a lot of potential.

KiDyNomiTe · 09-24-2002, 04:17 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ca18guy @ Sep. 23 2002,8:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (whateverjames @ Sep. 24 2002,1:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">wwwwrong! Front engine, diagonal wheel drive. the left front tire and the rear right tire. or the 96+ (not in the US) had right front, left rear drive.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
wwwwrong! Its technically a mid engine car <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Its Mid-Front Engine <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> . I think, lots of misinfo on this thread <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> . The engine sits a little further back than most front mounted cars, same with the 350Z, a nice compromise between FR and MR (MFR? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'> )

Either way FDs 3rd Gen RX7s, whatever you call them, they are bad-ass and FCs are nice too, FDs aren't daily drivers though, unless you really take care of it, and like rebuilding.

It's funny cuz I read something on an RX7 forum, and some guy was at a grocery store, and over the PA they say someones car outside is on fire, immediately he knew it was his. I would have cried if I saw my car on fire <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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EDIT: HMM wtf I spelled compromise with a Z, never done that before <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

Potatoskins02 · 09-24-2002, 07:39 PM

I would kill to get an fd.... well not really. Yeah its problematic but with proper care and money that 1.3L engine will fly.... hell just with proper care that car is sweet.

sxfro · 09-25-2002, 07:11 PM

what the hell is all this front-mid and mid engine and diagonal drive shit its a front engine rear drive car,maybe you guys need to spend some time on the rx7 forum and learn the car before u post and make yourself look stupid.

KiDyNomiTe · 09-25-2002, 07:22 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sxfro @ Sep. 25 2002,8:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what the hell is all this front-mid and mid engine and diagonal drive shit its a front engine rear drive car,maybe you guys need to spend some time on the rx7 forum and learn the car before u post and make yourself look stupid.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
actually your the one who looks stupid. The diagonals stuff was cuz someone said FD and someone thought they meant FR, but the RX7 is not an FR. It is a MFR or mid-front engine. You should get  your facts straight before you start flaming people. I would understand if you said you "thought" it was an FR, since in a way it is, but you posted like you knew 110% sure that it was an FR, which it isnt. The engine is mounted just behind the wheels unlike other FR cars that are mounted over the wheels. It gives better weight ratio (thats why the RX7 has such a good one). There are more cars with the MFR layout, like the 350Z. I wouldn't of known what an MFR was till about a month ago, I read it in an SCC <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> , but by just looking at the engine you can tell its mounted a little further back, but people don't talk much about MFR, since its nearly the same thing.

DriftMonkey · 09-25-2002, 07:23 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what the hell is all this front-mid and mid engine and diagonal drive shit its a front engine rear drive car,maybe you guys need to spend some time on the rx7 forum and learn the car before u post and make yourself look stupid. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

calm down man. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>   i am pretty sure everyone is just joking around...

whateverjames · 09-25-2002, 07:30 PM

ya, i already got a PM about it. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> he told to me go to an RX7 forum and learn before i talk about it. i told him i'll do that if he does me a favor and looks up the word sarcasm.

good lord. i don't think anyone would actually make a diagonal wheel drive type of drivetrain.  (lol)

Ni5mo180SX · 09-25-2002, 11:53 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (adey @ Sep. 23 2002,04:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rubbersidedown @ Sep. 23 2002,2:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">all i hear about Rx7's is all the problems, but i guess if you put enough money into the engine when you get it then most of the future problems can be prevented, or something like that. They're definitely kick ass cars though.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Okay... I don't mean to start anything with the Rotary haters here, but this seems to be a common misconception--

Rotaries (RX7s) are mainly "problematic" due to user error rather than design flaw.
For example, not changing the oil every ~2000 miles (+/- 500) on a rotary engine (rather than 3000 or more on piston-engine cars) or not making certain engine 'safety' mods (such as oil cooler upgrade) before turning up the boost etc. will lead, eventually, to engine failure. Most problems that you see on rotaries are caused by their owners not knowing how to properly maintain the engine rather than the engine being badly designed or made.
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You seem to have the basic idea down. The FC's and I think the FD's came with factory oil coolers. Reliability mods for the FD includes, radiator, intercooler, downpipe, anything to bring the underhood temp down as that is the FD's weak point. Luckily the FC's dont suffer from the same problem. And your right about most problems being caused by owners not taking care of their cars. These engines are great but dont tolerate abuse. A/F ratio has to be watched to prevent leaning out.

Ni5mo180SX · 09-25-2002, 11:55 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KiDyNomiTe @ Sep. 24 2002,9:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sxfro @ Sep. 25 2002,8:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what the hell is all this front-mid and mid engine and diagonal drive shit its a front engine rear drive car,maybe you guys need to spend some time on the rx7 forum and learn the car before u post and make yourself look stupid.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
actually your the one who looks stupid. The diagonals stuff was cuz someone said FD and someone thought they meant FR, but the RX7 is not an FR. It is a MFR or mid-front engine. You should get your facts straight before you start flaming people. I would understand if you said you "thought" it was an FR, since in a way it is, but you posted like you knew 110% sure that it was an FR, which it isnt. The engine is mounted just behind the wheels unlike other FR cars that are mounted over the wheels. It gives better weight ratio (thats why the RX7 has such a good one). There are more cars with the MFR layout, like the 350Z. I wouldn't of known what an MFR was till about a month ago, I read it in an SCC <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> , but by just looking at the engine you can tell its mounted a little further back, but people don't talk much about MFR, since its nearly the same thing.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Technically Mazda calls it "front mid mounted"  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>  FC's are the same.

DuffMan · 09-26-2002, 03:30 AM

I hate this whole mid-engine thing. MR2's have the engine over the rear wheels tranversely just like a FWD car does. And now people are calling Z's and stuff mid or front-mid just because it is mounted somewhat further back. How far away from the wheels does and engine need to be to be considered mid engined? It's just stupid.

240 2NR · 09-26-2002, 10:23 AM

You seem to have the basic idea down. The FC's and I think the FD's came with factory oil coolers. Reliability mods for the FD includes, radiator, intercooler, downpipe, anything to bring the underhood temp down as that is the FD's weak point. Luckily the FC's dont suffer from the same problem. And your right about most problems being caused by owners not taking care of their cars. These engines are great but dont tolerate abuse. A/F ratio has to be watched to prevent leaning out

Not sure on the FC's, but the only FD's with a stock oil cooler were the R-1 and R-2 package models, iirc.

Personally, if I had one (FD), an oil cooler, competition radiator, pre cat replacement (with a test pipe), ECU retune, and some intake splitter or something that always fails would be my first mods, and I wouldn't buy it unless I had the money to do those right away if it was to be a daily driver (and then I'd be saving for an intercooler and exhaust). Then I would consider the car reasonably reliable.

Anyone see the red FD in the reader's ride's section of the new SCC? Lots of mods, and no ecu retune. That's just asking for detonation. The basic rule for turbo rotories is for more than one change to it's breathing (intake, exhaust, pre cat removal, ect), a retune is required or you risk a lean burn detonation due to boost spikes when the secondary turbo spools.  Just like was said above.

Ni5mo180SX · 09-26-2002, 01:57 PM

Yea i'm pretty sure all FC's have an oil cooler.

whateverjames · 09-26-2002, 05:48 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DuffMan @ Sep. 26 2002,04:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I hate this whole mid-engine thing. MR2's have the engine over the rear wheels tranversely just like a FWD car does. And now people are calling Z's and stuff mid or front-mid just because it is mounted somewhat further back. How far away from the wheels does and engine need to be to be considered mid engined? It's just stupid.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i hate it too. if the engine is under the hood in the front and the damn thing has a drive shaft and the front wheels are NOT powered as well, it's front engine rear wheel drive. i think it's a marketing thing. front engine means the engine is in front of the driver.

09-23-2002, 01:38 PM	#1
Loofee95SE Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gadsden, AL Posts: 357 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oh..sad day ...have to sell my S14...spilt half & half with my EX  ...but!! I'm getting a 93Rx7 TT a guy that i know is selling...I'm sad...And Happy in the same time... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ I need more Boost!

09-23-2002, 01:58 PM	#2
TheTimanator Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nashville Age: 40 Posts: 2,535 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: TheTimanator Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Did you two split the car payments or something?  I thought you only had to split everything when you got a divorce. Go figure <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'> Have fun with the FD though __________________ 89 S13 hatch/////98 Subaru 2.5RS

09-23-2002, 02:22 PM	#3
KyoLo Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: UCSD Posts: 249 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i believe RX7 is FR..and RX7 has too many troubles, it is fast, yes, twin-turbo ..but i would never recommend to buy the car, rotary engine f88ked up too fast, too many problems... go to factory to fix the car every single week, so i have to pick him up once or twice every week or so...gosh... __________________ Signature Exceeds Forum Limits

09-23-2002, 03:05 PM	#4
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> forget the girl, I'd dump anyone just to get into an FD!  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> That said, I hear the '93s were somewhat problematic (for whatever reason) and that '94s are a better choice if available. Have fun with that thing man! __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG

09-23-2002, 03:06 PM	#5
uuninja Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reston, VA Age: 46 Posts: 812 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KyoLo @ Sep. 22 2002,4:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i believe RX7 is FR..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> BWAHAHAH! Dood he was talking about the chassis code. FD3S. damn i woud kill for a FD if I could afford the insurance and cost of ownership. __________________ Lurker Supreme! www.midatlantic240sx.com 91 Coupe 97 KA24DE+T SOLD

09-23-2002, 03:16 PM	#6
rubbersidedown Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 343 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	all i hear about Rx7's is all the problems, but i guess if you put enough money into the engine when you get it then most of the future problems can be prevented, or something like that. They're definitely kick ass cars though. __________________ 1991 240sx coupe w/ ca18det Bone stock Purchased but not installed parts: HKS adjustable timing gears Electronic Oil Pressure Guage Apex'i Multichecker t3/t04b turbo Stainless Steel, top mount tubular manifold ARC bov 450cc injectors Spearco FMIC

09-23-2002, 03:43 PM	#7
240 2NR Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Denver Posts: 1,131 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uuninja @ Sep. 23 2002,4:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KyoLo @ Sep. 22 2002,4:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i believe RX7 is FR..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> BWAHAHAH! Dood he was talking about the chassis code. FD3S. damn i woud kill for a FD if I could afford the insurance and cost of ownership.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Maintaining it will cost more, but insurance is a different stroy.  I was originally going to get an FD, then tried for a 97 240.  The price difference for my insurance quotes was $7.  That's right, the 240 would have saved me $7 per year compared to a car that had a KBB value 50% higher, plus an extra 100hp and no backseat.  Go figure?! __________________ Steve 93 240sx FB currently very clean and for sale

09-23-2002, 04:32 PM	#8
Anubis BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SAN DIEGO, CA Age: 38 Posts: 990 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uuninja @ Sep. 22 2002,5:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KyoLo @ Sep. 22 2002,4:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i believe RX7 is FR..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> BWAHAHAH! Dood he was talking about the chassis code. FD3S. damn i woud kill for a FD if I could afford the insurance and cost of ownership.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> So its now front -engine, down wheel drive?

09-23-2002, 04:59 PM	#9
kanekz Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Posts: 802 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My bro was a Rotary guy himself. He 1st gen and 2 FC's. 1st FC got crashed. 1st gen was sold. AND the other FC we still have. RX-7 CAN be problamtic. It just depends on the overall condition of the car, but also the extent MAINTANANCE. The earlier FC's had a few bugs in them, but were taken care of in the later FC's. As for FD's, I'm not to sure of. My friend's FD had a problem with his vacuum lines and turbo lag. Now there is a 1988 10th Anniversary Edition FC with blown Apex Seals in front of my house.....that I AM SELLING. For pics and info, click here: http://hometown.aol.com/djkanekz/rx7.html __________________ Blitz!!

09-23-2002, 06:54 PM	#10
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 44 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (anubis9228 @ Sep. 23 2002,5:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteBegin--uuninja+Sep. 22 2002,5<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uuninja @ Sep. 22 2002,5<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>6)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KyoLo @ Sep. 22 2002,4:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i believe RX7 is FR..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> BWAHAHAH! Dood he was talking about the chassis code. FD3S. damn i woud kill for a FD if I could afford the insurance and cost of ownership.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> So its now front -engine, down wheel drive?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> wwwwrong! Front engine, diagonal wheel drive. the left front tire and the rear right tire. or the 96+ (not in the US) had right front, left rear drive. __________________ 02 Blazer X - 90 240SX w/SR oh noes

09-23-2002, 07:06 PM	#11
aqwkmf Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: not there. Posts: 414 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn....can u guys be so dumb or are u just messing? fd, fc, fb are all the first 2 letter of the vin number. aka chasis code. i'll be selling my s13 soon to start saving for a fd of my own. i love rotary.

09-23-2002, 07:40 PM	#12
FREAK S14 Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	GOD I LOVE FD's LIKE MAD <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> My friend has an R1, and its is REAL nice....but he dishes alot of money into it...its worth it....if you have the money though....He always tells people who ask him how he likes it, he tells them he loves it....but there is no bottom to the hole he is throwing his money into...

09-23-2002, 07:50 PM	#13
DriftMonkey Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North East Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote (anubis9228 @ Sep. 23 2002,5:32) 6-->Quote (uuninja @ Sep. 22 2002,56) Quote (KyoLo @ Sep. 22 2002,4:22) i believe RX7 is FR.. BWAHAHAH! Dood he was talking about the chassis code. FD3S. damn i woud kill for a FD if I could afford the insurance and cost of ownership. So its now front -engine, down wheel drive? wwwwrong! Front engine, diagonal wheel drive. the left front tire and the rear right tire. or the 96+ (not in the US) had right front, left rear drive. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> haha funny shit... i know a guy with a 2nd gen RX-7...he's had it in the shop for about 8 months so i never got to ride in it...someday.. __________________ Coastek240 still owes me a bumper or 82 bucks, which ever he decieds to send first.

09-23-2002, 07:51 PM	#14
ca18guy Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Clearwater FL Age: 41 Posts: 3,226 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ca18guy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (whateverjames @ Sep. 24 2002,1:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">wwwwrong! Front engine, diagonal wheel drive. the left front tire and the rear right tire. or the 96+ (not in the US) had right front, left rear drive.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> wwwwrong!  Its technically a mid engine car  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

09-23-2002, 08:01 PM	#15
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 41 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ Sep. 22 2002,9:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">damn....can u guys be so dumb or are u just messing? fd, fc, fb are all the first 2 letter of the vin number. aka chasis code. i'll be selling my s13 soon to start saving for a fd of my own. i love rotary.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I think they are messin around  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'> __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

09-24-2002, 01:46 AM	#16
YellwMonky Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Fog Town Posts: 341 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	<!--QuoteBegin--aqwkmf+Sep. 24 2002,6<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ Sep. 24 2002,6<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>6)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">damn....can u guys be so dumb or are u just messing? fd, fc, fb are all the first 2 letter of the vin number. aka chasis code. i'll be selling my s13 soon to start saving for a fd of my own. i love rotary.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">damn....can u guys be so dumb or are u just messing? fd, fc, fb are all the first 2 letter of the vin number. aka chasis code. i'll be selling my s13 soon to start saving for a fd of my own. i love rotary.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Is that right...? fb? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'> Somebody told me that it goes SA, FC, FD. Is that right? Or is there really an FB...? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ s13 92 White 240sx SE Coupe

09-24-2002, 02:21 AM	#17
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rubbersidedown @ Sep. 23 2002,2:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">all i hear about Rx7's is all the problems, but i guess if you put enough money into the engine when you get it then most of the future problems can be prevented, or something like that. They're definitely kick ass cars though.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Okay... I don't mean to start anything with the Rotary haters here, but this seems to be a common misconception-- Rotaries (RX7s) are mainly "problematic" due to user error rather than design flaw. For example, not changing the oil every ~2000 miles (+/- 500) on a rotary engine (rather than 3000 or more on piston-engine cars) or not making certain engine 'safety' mods (such as oil cooler upgrade) before turning up the boost etc. will lead, eventually, to engine failure. Most problems that you see on rotaries are caused by their owners not knowing how to properly maintain the engine rather than the engine being badly designed or made. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG

09-24-2002, 04:17 PM	#19
KiDyNomiTe Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 37 Posts: 6,296 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KiDyNomiTe Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ca18guy @ Sep. 23 2002,8:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (whateverjames @ Sep. 24 2002,1:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">wwwwrong! Front engine, diagonal wheel drive. the left front tire and the rear right tire. or the 96+ (not in the US) had right front, left rear drive.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> wwwwrong! Its technically a mid engine car <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Its Mid-Front Engine <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> . I think, lots of misinfo on this thread <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> . The engine sits a little further back than most front mounted cars, same with the 350Z, a nice compromise between FR and MR (MFR? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'> ) Either way FDs 3rd Gen RX7s, whatever you call them, they are bad-ass and FCs are nice too, FDs aren't daily drivers though, unless you really take care of it, and like rebuilding. It's funny cuz I read something on an RX7 forum, and some guy was at a grocery store, and over the PA they say someones car outside is on fire, immediately he knew it was his. I would have cried if I saw my car on fire <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> . EDIT: HMM wtf I spelled compromise with a Z, never done that before <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'> __________________ PROCEED Grip Gambler

09-24-2002, 07:39 PM	#20
Potatoskins02 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 40 Posts: 247 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I would kill to get an fd.... well not really. Yeah its problematic but with proper care and money that 1.3L engine will fly.... hell just with proper care that car is sweet. __________________ ~1993 240sx CAI, FSTB, RSTB, Zigen Fireball friend MSP owner... "I need to save my gas...... shit its beginning to boost!" shifts

09-25-2002, 07:11 PM	#21
sxfro Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 66 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what the hell is all this front-mid and mid engine and diagonal drive shit its a front engine rear drive car,maybe you guys need to spend some time on the rx7 forum and learn the car before u post and make yourself look stupid.

09-25-2002, 07:22 PM	#22
KiDyNomiTe Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 37 Posts: 6,296 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KiDyNomiTe Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sxfro @ Sep. 25 2002,8:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what the hell is all this front-mid and mid engine and diagonal drive shit its a front engine rear drive car,maybe you guys need to spend some time on the rx7 forum and learn the car before u post and make yourself look stupid.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> actually your the one who looks stupid. The diagonals stuff was cuz someone said FD and someone thought they meant FR, but the RX7 is not an FR. It is a MFR or mid-front engine. You should get  your facts straight before you start flaming people. I would understand if you said you "thought" it was an FR, since in a way it is, but you posted like you knew 110% sure that it was an FR, which it isnt. The engine is mounted just behind the wheels unlike other FR cars that are mounted over the wheels. It gives better weight ratio (thats why the RX7 has such a good one). There are more cars with the MFR layout, like the 350Z. I wouldn't of known what an MFR was till about a month ago, I read it in an SCC <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> , but by just looking at the engine you can tell its mounted a little further back, but people don't talk much about MFR, since its nearly the same thing. __________________ PROCEED Grip Gambler

09-25-2002, 07:23 PM	#23
DriftMonkey Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North East Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what the hell is all this front-mid and mid engine and diagonal drive shit its a front engine rear drive car,maybe you guys need to spend some time on the rx7 forum and learn the car before u post and make yourself look stupid. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> calm down man. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>   i am pretty sure everyone is just joking around... __________________ Coastek240 still owes me a bumper or 82 bucks, which ever he decieds to send first.

09-25-2002, 07:30 PM	#24
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 44 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ya, i already got a PM about it. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> he told to me go to an RX7 forum and learn before i talk about it. i told him i'll do that if he does me a favor and looks up the word sarcasm. good lord. i don't think anyone would actually make a diagonal wheel drive type of drivetrain.  (lol) __________________ 02 Blazer X - 90 240SX w/SR oh noes

09-25-2002, 11:53 PM	#25
Ni5mo180SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Orange County Posts: 423 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (adey @ Sep. 23 2002,04:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rubbersidedown @ Sep. 23 2002,2:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">all i hear about Rx7's is all the problems, but i guess if you put enough money into the engine when you get it then most of the future problems can be prevented, or something like that. They're definitely kick ass cars though.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Okay... I don't mean to start anything with the Rotary haters here, but this seems to be a common misconception-- Rotaries (RX7s) are mainly "problematic" due to user error rather than design flaw. For example, not changing the oil every ~2000 miles (+/- 500) on a rotary engine (rather than 3000 or more on piston-engine cars) or not making certain engine 'safety' mods (such as oil cooler upgrade) before turning up the boost etc. will lead, eventually, to engine failure. Most problems that you see on rotaries are caused by their owners not knowing how to properly maintain the engine rather than the engine being badly designed or made. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> You seem to have the basic idea down. The FC's and I think the FD's came with factory oil coolers. Reliability mods for the FD includes, radiator, intercooler, downpipe, anything to bring the underhood temp down as that is the FD's weak point. Luckily the FC's dont suffer from the same problem. And your right about most problems being caused by owners not taking care of their cars. These engines are great but dont tolerate abuse. A/F ratio has to be watched to prevent leaning out. __________________ Mazda RX-7 FC3S: Jspec motor, ported turbo & wastegate, JIC FLT-A2 coilovers, Mazdatrix adj. rear camber link, TB mod, Koyo 53mm Radiator, Corksport Cat back/midpipe/downipe, 3" Al TID, Apex'i air cleaner, Mazda Comp. mission/motor/differential mounts, Mazdaspeed Strut Bar(R), FD torsen differential, HKS SSQV, HKS elec. boost gauge & elec water temp, Cusco Oil catch, 680cc secondary's, Walbro 255, Banzai Racing FCD, RB DTSS Eliminator bushings, Exedy Clutch & PP, Exedy chrome moly flywheel, RB oil baffle, RB dual alt. pulley, 5 lug conversion, FC3S.org thermal bypass pellet, KVR Cross drilled rotors, complete Energy PU bushings, stainless steel brake lines/clutch line, Aerodyne shroud panel, Azenis RS, and some other stuff. A hybrid of sorts I guess

09-25-2002, 11:55 PM	#26
Ni5mo180SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Orange County Posts: 423 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KiDyNomiTe @ Sep. 24 2002,9:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sxfro @ Sep. 25 2002,8:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what the hell is all this front-mid and mid engine and diagonal drive shit its a front engine rear drive car,maybe you guys need to spend some time on the rx7 forum and learn the car before u post and make yourself look stupid.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> actually your the one who looks stupid. The diagonals stuff was cuz someone said FD and someone thought they meant FR, but the RX7 is not an FR. It is a MFR or mid-front engine. You should get your facts straight before you start flaming people. I would understand if you said you "thought" it was an FR, since in a way it is, but you posted like you knew 110% sure that it was an FR, which it isnt. The engine is mounted just behind the wheels unlike other FR cars that are mounted over the wheels. It gives better weight ratio (thats why the RX7 has such a good one). There are more cars with the MFR layout, like the 350Z. I wouldn't of known what an MFR was till about a month ago, I read it in an SCC <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> , but by just looking at the engine you can tell its mounted a little further back, but people don't talk much about MFR, since its nearly the same thing.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Technically Mazda calls it "front mid mounted"  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  FC's are the same. __________________ Mazda RX-7 FC3S: Jspec motor, ported turbo & wastegate, JIC FLT-A2 coilovers, Mazdatrix adj. rear camber link, TB mod, Koyo 53mm Radiator, Corksport Cat back/midpipe/downipe, 3" Al TID, Apex'i air cleaner, Mazda Comp. mission/motor/differential mounts, Mazdaspeed Strut Bar(R), FD torsen differential, HKS SSQV, HKS elec. boost gauge & elec water temp, Cusco Oil catch, 680cc secondary's, Walbro 255, Banzai Racing FCD, RB DTSS Eliminator bushings, Exedy Clutch & PP, Exedy chrome moly flywheel, RB oil baffle, RB dual alt. pulley, 5 lug conversion, FC3S.org thermal bypass pellet, KVR Cross drilled rotors, complete Energy PU bushings, stainless steel brake lines/clutch line, Aerodyne shroud panel, Azenis RS, and some other stuff. A hybrid of sorts I guess

09-26-2002, 03:30 AM	#27
DuffMan Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in a cardboard box Posts: 2,517 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I hate this whole mid-engine thing. MR2's have the engine over the rear wheels tranversely just like a FWD car does. And now people are calling Z's and stuff mid or front-mid just because it is mounted somewhat further back. How far away from the wheels does and engine need to be to be considered mid engined? It's just stupid.

09-26-2002, 10:23 AM	#28
240 2NR Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Denver Posts: 1,131 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You seem to have the basic idea down. The FC's and I think the FD's came with factory oil coolers. Reliability mods for the FD includes, radiator, intercooler, downpipe, anything to bring the underhood temp down as that is the FD's weak point. Luckily the FC's dont suffer from the same problem. And your right about most problems being caused by owners not taking care of their cars. These engines are great but dont tolerate abuse. A/F ratio has to be watched to prevent leaning out Not sure on the FC's, but the only FD's with a stock oil cooler were the R-1 and R-2 package models, iirc. Personally, if I had one (FD), an oil cooler, competition radiator, pre cat replacement (with a test pipe), ECU retune, and some intake splitter or something that always fails would be my first mods, and I wouldn't buy it unless I had the money to do those right away if it was to be a daily driver (and then I'd be saving for an intercooler and exhaust). Then I would consider the car reasonably reliable. Anyone see the red FD in the reader's ride's section of the new SCC? Lots of mods, and no ecu retune. That's just asking for detonation. The basic rule for turbo rotories is for more than one change to it's breathing (intake, exhaust, pre cat removal, ect), a retune is required or you risk a lean burn detonation due to boost spikes when the secondary turbo spools.  Just like was said above. __________________ Steve 93 240sx FB currently very clean and for sale

09-26-2002, 01:57 PM	#29
Ni5mo180SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Orange County Posts: 423 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yea i'm pretty sure all FC's have an oil cooler. __________________ Mazda RX-7 FC3S: Jspec motor, ported turbo & wastegate, JIC FLT-A2 coilovers, Mazdatrix adj. rear camber link, TB mod, Koyo 53mm Radiator, Corksport Cat back/midpipe/downipe, 3" Al TID, Apex'i air cleaner, Mazda Comp. mission/motor/differential mounts, Mazdaspeed Strut Bar(R), FD torsen differential, HKS SSQV, HKS elec. boost gauge & elec water temp, Cusco Oil catch, 680cc secondary's, Walbro 255, Banzai Racing FCD, RB DTSS Eliminator bushings, Exedy Clutch & PP, Exedy chrome moly flywheel, RB oil baffle, RB dual alt. pulley, 5 lug conversion, FC3S.org thermal bypass pellet, KVR Cross drilled rotors, complete Energy PU bushings, stainless steel brake lines/clutch line, Aerodyne shroud panel, Azenis RS, and some other stuff. A hybrid of sorts I guess

09-26-2002, 05:48 PM	#30
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 44 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DuffMan @ Sep. 26 2002,04:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I hate this whole mid-engine thing. MR2's have the engine over the rear wheels tranversely just like a FWD car does. And now people are calling Z's and stuff mid or front-mid just because it is mounted somewhat further back. How far away from the wheels does and engine need to be to be considered mid engined? It's just stupid.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> i hate it too. if the engine is under the hood in the front and the damn thing has a drive shaft and the front wheels are NOT powered as well, it's front engine rear wheel drive. i think it's a marketing thing. front engine means the engine is in front of the driver. __________________ 02 Blazer X - 90 240SX w/SR oh noes