5 lug conversion ... necessary?? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

R-Factor · 06-21-2005, 06:55 PM

I'm just trying to get some feedback from you guys.
I'm contemplating doing a 5-lug conversion but it seems pretty costly.
I was wondering at what amount of HP would a 5-lug conversion be a good idea. I've heard that 4-lug is good enough for up to about 300hp? Anybody running high HP on a 4-lug setup? Thanks.

***S14DB*** · 06-21-2005, 07:03 PM

Someone explain this logic to me?

orion::S14 · 06-21-2005, 07:05 PM

5-lug conversion is ONLY for a wider selection of wheels...nothign else.

4-lug cars with stock wheels have done +500rwhp, and I've NEVER heard of ANYONE breaking a wheel off due to power...4- or 5-lug. Slicks or street tires. Doesn't matter.

- Brian

Andrew Bohan · 06-21-2005, 07:05 PM

the number of lugs you need is determined more by vehicle load. cars have 4 or 5 lugs, trucks have 5, 6, or 8, maybe 10? busses and semis have 471942 lugs

nothing to do with power output

chlatboy · 06-21-2005, 08:25 PM

5 lug conversions make you drift better. So they are necessary if you want to become a dorifto master! Why else would everyone want the conversion so much!!!

OptionZero · 06-21-2005, 08:32 PM

it will also save you a LITTLE trouble with brake selection if you decide to upgrade to q45 or 300zx or other brakes, which come in 5 lug.

rotors can be redrilled, it depends if you have someone to do it. It's not that big a deal.

Wheel selection is the biggest thing though...

I want the 8 spoke Volk CE28N, but those are 4 lug only (5lug is 10spoke). Maybe I should do a FOUR LUG conversion?! ahahhaha

GonadSX · 06-21-2005, 09:28 PM

5-lug makes my car look good....this good

IBattentionwhore

***S14DB*** · 06-21-2005, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonadSX

5-lug makes my car look good....this good

IBattentionwhore

http://240sx.cubicdesign.com/images/misc/my240.jpg

There's a pic thread you slut.

aznpoopy · 06-22-2005, 12:23 AM

its not necessary at all
stock brakes are fine, use aggressive pads for track
wheel selection is an aesthetic thing, and there are good offset 4 lug wheels if u look hard enough for em

but if you want a partciular set of wheels and like a little extra stopping power from z32 brakes, its not a bad way to spend some money.

infinitexsound · 06-22-2005, 12:40 AM

5 lug, q45.. whats the big deal? just some more dolla's plus u get better wheel options and u get the nod from fellow 240 ppl... if your trippin about prices of parts... sell it and get a Scion... CARS are money pits if your arent ok with it.. then go do something else....

chlatboy · 06-22-2005, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

There's a pic thread you slut.

BURN!!!!!

m0rex · 06-22-2005, 02:14 AM

I just recently broke a stud off my 4 lug hub. I was taking a turn at about 50 mph and i guess i have abused the rear-right (olsd sucks) of my car so much that it just broke. Im now rolling with three and im really scared of breaking one more off. Good thing 4 lug hubs are really cheap otherwise i'd be pissed.

janko · 06-22-2005, 05:13 AM

There was a guy selling a 4 lug set on ebay for $10, no one even bid on it.

Yoshi · 06-22-2005, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0rex

I just recently broke a stud off my 4 lug hub. I was taking a turn at about 50 mph and i guess i have abused the rear-right (olsd sucks) of my car so much that it just broke. Im now rolling with three and im really scared of breaking one more off. Good thing 4 lug hubs are really cheap otherwise i'd be pissed.

WTF? go get that fixed.
I've broken 3 of them now, and everytime I've been to the tire shop, they've just fixed it for me for FREE, no purchase necessary, no questions asked.

Andrew Bohan · 06-22-2005, 12:26 PM

wtf is olsd? that doesn't any sense. ulsd maybe...

***S14DB*** · 06-22-2005, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i'm driftaholic

wtf is olsd? that doesn't any sense. ulsd maybe...

N - LSD?

***FaLKoN240*** · 06-22-2005, 12:41 PM

I doubt that the 5 lug would really prevent you from breaking lugs, if you're continuously beating your car down, and turning hard enough to break a stud. . .

If you are going to talk about open diffs, I believe the term is ULSD. UnLimited Slip Differential

Simply, 5 lug is if you want to have an easier time finding baller wheels, in good sizes, with good offsets. Other than that, unnecessary.

infinitexsound · 06-22-2005, 03:22 PM

just replace the single stud... its like 1 dollar for a stud...

SilviaDriver · 06-22-2005, 03:27 PM

i find 5lug more offset selection than wheels

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

I want the 8 spoke Volk CE28N, but those are 4 lug only (5lug is 10spoke). Maybe I should do a FOUR LUG conversion?! ahahhaha

tho it is a joke, but hey i got a 4lug conversion for you haha

drift freaq · 06-22-2005, 07:27 PM

5 lug equal not having to redrill brake rotors for Z brake conversions. 5 lug = bigger selection of 16 and up wheels for our cars in better offsets. 5 lug = better for cars that have RB conversions due to the fact that a RB puts out a lot more torque than a SR. Yes the 5 lug is stronger. Is it absolutely nesscary? No. Is it wise in some instances? yes! In the instance of running a RB series engine, I would say yes IMHO.

meatish · 06-23-2005, 11:31 AM

"I've heard that 4-lug is good enough for up to about 300hp? Anybody running high HP on a 4-lug setup?"
Haha! Kids say the darndest things. THAT is funny.

sepulchral · 06-23-2005, 03:25 PM

100 hp for each amount of lugs you have

infinitexsound · 06-23-2005, 04:59 PM

so i have 140 hp... shouldnt i be running 1 lug?

sepulchral · 06-23-2005, 05:24 PM

no... 1.4 lug retard, do the math

infinitexsound · 06-23-2005, 08:13 PM

since when did they make 1.4 lugs retard?

TheSparo · 06-23-2005, 08:32 PM

taking it way too seriously.... you would round up...

SilviaDriver · 06-23-2005, 08:36 PM

wow this thread is gone to shit

Andrew Bohan · 06-23-2005, 09:38 PM

i wanna do 1-lug conversion
like real racecars

ZIIP wheel off

06-21-2005, 06:55 PM	#1
R-Factor Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Calgary Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	5 lug conversion ... necessary?? I'm just trying to get some feedback from you guys. I'm contemplating doing a 5-lug conversion but it seems pretty costly. I was wondering at what amount of HP would a 5-lug conversion be a good idea. I've heard that 4-lug is good enough for up to about 300hp? Anybody running high HP on a 4-lug setup? Thanks.

06-21-2005, 07:03 PM	#2
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Someone explain this logic to me? __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

06-21-2005, 07:05 PM	#3
orion::S14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 1,666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	5-lug conversion is ONLY for a wider selection of wheels...nothign else. 4-lug cars with stock wheels have done +500rwhp, and I've NEVER heard of ANYONE breaking a wheel off due to power...4- or 5-lug. Slicks or street tires. Doesn't matter. - Brian __________________ www.KA24DEvelopment.com

06-21-2005, 08:25 PM	#5
chlatboy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,252 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	5 lug conversions make you drift better. So they are necessary if you want to become a dorifto master! Why else would everyone want the conversion so much!!! __________________ If you dont know SEARCH!!!

06-21-2005, 09:28 PM	#7
GonadSX Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 131 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	5-lug makes my car look good....this good IBattentionwhore __________________ Gautam :: Google Specialist :: www.my240.com

06-21-2005, 07:05 PM	#4
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,331 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	the number of lugs you need is determined more by vehicle load. cars have 4 or 5 lugs, trucks have 5, 6, or 8, maybe 10? busses and semis have 471942 lugs nothing to do with power output

06-21-2005, 08:32 PM	#6
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 40 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	it will also save you a LITTLE trouble with brake selection if you decide to upgrade to q45 or 300zx or other brakes, which come in 5 lug. rotors can be redrilled, it depends if you have someone to do it. It's not that big a deal. Wheel selection is the biggest thing though... I want the 8 spoke Volk CE28N, but those are 4 lug only (5lug is 10spoke). Maybe I should do a FOUR LUG conversion?! ahahhaha

06-22-2005, 12:23 AM	#9
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	its not necessary at all stock brakes are fine, use aggressive pads for track wheel selection is an aesthetic thing, and there are good offset 4 lug wheels if u look hard enough for em but if you want a partciular set of wheels and like a little extra stopping power from z32 brakes, its not a bad way to spend some money.

06-22-2005, 12:40 AM	#10
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 41 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	5 lug, q45.. whats the big deal? just some more dolla's plus u get better wheel options and u get the nod from fellow 240 ppl... if your trippin about prices of parts... sell it and get a Scion... CARS are money pits if your arent ok with it.. then go do something else.... __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

06-22-2005, 02:14 AM	#12
m0rex Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,070 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just recently broke a stud off my 4 lug hub. I was taking a turn at about 50 mph and i guess i have abused the rear-right (olsd sucks) of my car so much that it just broke. Im now rolling with three and im really scared of breaking one more off. Good thing 4 lug hubs are really cheap otherwise i'd be pissed. __________________

06-22-2005, 05:13 AM	#13
janko Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There was a guy selling a 4 lug set on ebay for $10, no one even bid on it. __________________ '92 G20 '96 240sx

06-22-2005, 12:26 PM	#15
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,331 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	wtf is olsd? that doesn't any sense. ulsd maybe...

06-22-2005, 12:41 PM	#17
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,885 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	I doubt that the 5 lug would really prevent you from breaking lugs, if you're continuously beating your car down, and turning hard enough to break a stud. . . If you are going to talk about open diffs, I believe the term is ULSD. UnLimited Slip Differential Simply, 5 lug is if you want to have an easier time finding baller wheels, in good sizes, with good offsets. Other than that, unnecessary.

06-22-2005, 03:22 PM	#18
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 41 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just replace the single stud... its like 1 dollar for a stud... __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

06-22-2005, 07:27 PM	#20
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,562 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	5 lug equal not having to redrill brake rotors for Z brake conversions. 5 lug = bigger selection of 16 and up wheels for our cars in better offsets. 5 lug = better for cars that have RB conversions due to the fact that a RB puts out a lot more torque than a SR. Yes the 5 lug is stronger. Is it absolutely nesscary? No. Is it wise in some instances? yes! In the instance of running a RB series engine, I would say yes IMHO. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

06-23-2005, 11:31 AM	#21
meatish Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: san diego Posts: 382 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	"I've heard that 4-lug is good enough for up to about 300hp? Anybody running high HP on a 4-lug setup?" Haha! Kids say the darndest things. THAT is funny. __________________ Mr. Pibb + Red Vines = CRAZY DELICIOUS -Dont wanna be a drifter no more.. Im not a drifter i just crash a lot.

06-23-2005, 03:25 PM	#22
sepulchral BANNED Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Midlothian. VA Posts: 2,050 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	100 hp for each amount of lugs you have

06-23-2005, 04:59 PM	#23
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 41 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so i have 140 hp... shouldnt i be running 1 lug? __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

06-23-2005, 05:24 PM	#24
sepulchral BANNED Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Midlothian. VA Posts: 2,050 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	no... 1.4 lug retard, do the math

06-23-2005, 08:13 PM	#25
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 41 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	since when did they make 1.4 lugs retard? __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

06-23-2005, 08:32 PM	#26
TheSparo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Athens/Chattanooga/ Cookeville/Morristown, TN Age: 38 Posts: 1,141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	taking it way too seriously.... you would round up... __________________ 89 240 SR powered... ummm i promise its stock

06-23-2005, 08:36 PM	#27
SilviaDriver Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 39 Posts: 5,514 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: SilviaDriver Feedback Score: 2 reviews	wow this thread is gone to shit

06-23-2005, 09:38 PM	#28
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,331 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i wanna do 1-lug conversion like real racecars ZIIP wheel off