the wire tuck pic thread

[godrifttoday]

Originally Posted by Broadfield

Why in the hell are we evening talking about resistors? I feel like I should be working on a new Chrysler model or something.

Just drop it....... Lol

[mr2thomas]

Originally Posted by boyou2

For the alternator and starter, YES, you MUST use FUSES!!!!

For every electrical systems, at the beginning of them, and the nearest of the battery, fuse, fuse, fuse!!!!

after the battery, a 75A fuse, for general security, and after that, fuse box.

Here's a fast schem' that i made :



I didi'nt make the brake light modification.

Starter doesnt need to be fused. Its not even fused from factory. Like Jeff said, if you put an 80amp or anything close, it will pop on crank. Starter can see around 300 amps.

run a wire from battery straight to starter.
Alternator you can use a 80 or 100 amp fuse or circuit breaker dedicated for that.

[godrifttoday]

Originally Posted by mr2thomas

Starter doesnt need to be fused. Its not even fused from factory. Like Jeff said, if you put an 80amp or anything close, it will pop on crank. Starter can see around 300 amps.

run a wire from battery straight to starter.
Alternator you can use a 80 or 100 amp fuse or circuit breaker dedicated for that.

Sweet, thanks for all the help. Once I'm finished I would like to post it up for other people to see if they do desire to wire their car with the minimum, but just want to Make sure everything is right. So anyone's input would work great to finishing this, and potentially helping other members too. If anyone sees anything wrong point it out.

[KAs14slider]

So I am looking to rewire my whole car. Where do you guys buy the actual wire to start making a harness from scratch. Or is it a better Idea to just simplify your existing harness?

[GSXRJJordan]

Originally Posted by hertzcarsales

I will post new pics of tuck shortly....

Jeff = me, are you also one of the blessed ones to have the name?

Originally Posted by KAs14slider

So I am looking to rewire my whole car. Where do you guys buy the actual wire to start making a harness from scratch. Or is it a better Idea to just simplify your existing harness?

I started (6 years ago) simplifying existing harnesses, the problem is, you have to keep the stock connectors everywhere, as well as the stock fuseboxes and SMJ. They all suck. Then I used automotive TXL wire, which is what new OEM harnesses are made with, it's cool.

Now I use all Mil-spec silver- or nickel-stranded copper, high temp, dual wall wire. It's virtually impossible to nick, and has a working temp of over 200*C. Problem is, you generally have to buy in bulk - I go through 1000ft spools of each size, in multiple colors, every couple months.

For the do-it-yourself-er, it's tough to know how much you need. I'm more than happy to have my intern spool up some wire for you if you can guess what you'll use (or tell me what you're trying to wire and I'll guess what you'll use).

[godrifttoday]

Originally Posted by KAs14slider

So I am looking to rewire my whole car. Where do you guys buy the actual wire to start making a harness from scratch. Or is it a better Idea to just simplify your existing harness?

That's what I'm doing a harness from scratch. With help of other members here I hope to have a finalized schematic on how to wire your own car from scratch.

[GSXRJJordan]

Originally Posted by godrifttoday

That's what I'm doing a harness from scratch. With help of other members here I hope to have a finalized schematic on how to wire your own car from scratch.

If there was one end-all, be-all schematic for everyone, I would just post it with a FAQ and close the thread.

It's different for almost everyone, we've probably done 50 S-chassis custom chassis harnesses and I can only think of 3 or 4 that were exactly the same.

[KAs14slider]

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Jeff = me, are you also one of the blessed ones to have the name?



I started (6 years ago) simplifying existing harnesses, the problem is, you have to keep the stock connectors everywhere, as well as the stock fuseboxes and SMJ. They all suck. Then I used automotive TXL wire, which is what new OEM harnesses are made with, it's cool.

Now I use all Mil-spec silver- or nickel-stranded copper, high temp, dual wall wire. It's virtually impossible to nick, and has a working temp of over 200*C. Problem is, you generally have to buy in bulk - I go through 1000ft spools of each size, in multiple colors, every couple months.

For the do-it-yourself-er, it's tough to know how much you need. I'm more than happy to have my intern spool up some wire for you if you can guess what you'll use (or tell me what you're trying to wire and I'll guess what you'll use).

Thanks, I'll figure it out in more detail later what exactly I want to do and I'll get in touch.

[mr2thomas]

True. I hit up Jeff Jordan for adhesive heat shrink and it was much cheaper than everywhere else and the perfect amount too. Its too expensive to order a bunch of feet of shit that you only need like 1 foot of.

If i ever need more heat shrink or wire, ill definitely hit you up again Jeff. He shipped out next day after i paid too.

[Promise Land]

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

I'm more than happy to have my intern...

Intern? Do they college credit?

[godrifttoday]

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

If there was one end-all, be-all schematic for everyone, I would just post it with a FAQ and close the thread.

It's different for almost everyone, we've probably done 50 S-chassis custom chassis harnesses and I can only think of 3 or 4 that were exactly the same.

I do understand although, you could post whatever u think might be helpful, u have answer some of my questions, so thanks of the top of your head by any chance u know what pin is the one that powers on a ka24de ecu? I haven't looked yet.

[GSXRJJordan]

Originally Posted by Promise Land

Intern? Do they college credit?

I haven't talked to Cal Poly about it, but it's possible. I'd have to talk to the program manager/dean wherever you go to school lol.

Originally Posted by godrifttoday

I do understand although, you could post whatever u think might be helpful, u have answer some of my questions, so thanks of the top of your head by any chance u know what pin is the one that powers on a ka24de ecu? I haven't looked yet.

There are a bunch of pins that need power on the ECU for it to work properly. There's a constant/backup +12V, an ignition-switched +12V from the ignition key, and ignition-switched +12V from the ECU relay. That doesn't even cover the stuff in the harness that gets power (separately from the engine).

You have to know how to read the FSM, or have a professional do it right the first time.

[90240sx07]

^^^^ how much do you usually charge for a wire tuck/elminate plugs that arent needed

[dwnshft2drft]

Does any one makes plug and play adapters? from S14 SR dash harness to S14 KA engine harness and from S14 SR dash harness to S15 SR engine harness?

[90240sx07]

not sure but fairly easy to repin those connectors

[dwnshft2drft]

problem is i have multiple engine for the s14 so i prefer plug and play...
if I can make one, anyone have a donor F3/M63 or F4/M60 plug with a foot pigtails? PM me

thanks

Originally Posted by 90240sx07

not sure but fairly easy to repin those connectors

[s13greasemonkey]

Its almost done Ill have pics up next week!

[godrifttoday]

I'm getting their!

[TurboSE]

Really interested in the CB chassis harness

[Broadfield]

Originally Posted by godrifttoday

I'm getting their!

It's gonna really suck to trouble shoot that if you ever need to in the future... all of the same color wires.

I know Chase and Jeff are both willing to sell various wire colors so you don't have to buy a 1000 feet just to get something with a stripe on it.

[90240sx07]

ya might need to talk to chase or jeff soon on pricing on wire

[90240sx07]

Originally Posted by godrifttoday

I'm getting their!

what does that all wire up?

[godrifttoday]

Originally Posted by 90240sx07

what does that all wire up?

ECCS, fuel, fan, ignition, headlights x2, and i want my wipers even thought it will oNly be in one speed setting maybe ill make it 2 speed. rest are spare just incase.

Originally Posted by Broadfield

It's gonna really suck to trouble shoot that if you ever need to in the future... all of the same color wires.

I know Chase and Jeff are both willing to sell various wire colors so you don't have to buy a 1000 feet just to get something with a stripe on it.

Well most do one color, I have a diagram on everything how it's being wired I haven't label them yet with a label maker but every wire will be accounted for so I could eliminate any problems in the future.

[TurboSE]

I bought a Painless-style kit from a friend and I didn't like the set-up, so I'm cannibalizing it for the different wire colors

[GSXRJJordan]

Originally Posted by TurboSE

I bought a Painless-style kit from a friend and I didn't like the set-up, so I'm cannibalizing it for the different wire colors

Painless (and the Summit knock-off that's everywhere) uses the cheapest automotive wire you can find. OEM is even better.

[TurboSE]

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Painless (and the Summit knock-off that's everywhere) uses the cheapest automotive wire you can find. OEM is even better.

Mine isn't actually a Painless or painless style, I forget the brand, but it's a premade hot rod harness...that's what I meant.

[Om1kron]

Originally Posted by TurboSE

Mine isn't actually a Painless or painless style, I forget the brand, but it's a premade hot rod harness...that's what I meant.

So a knock off of a shitty "get started kit" lol

[TurboSE]

Originally Posted by Om1kron

So a knock off of a shitty "get started kit" lol

it's from ezwiring...sorry it doesn't measure up to your standards, thanks for your input...can I see your wiring set-up to see how it should be done? Mine seems to work fine to run my lights, fan, horn and wipers which is pretty much what I needed.

[EDIT] GSXRJJordan, I understand your post and appreciate your opinion. Om1kron, when I want to know about wheels and hoods, your opinion might matter.[/EDIT]

[boyou2]

Originally Posted by Broadfield

It's gonna really suck to trouble shoot that if you ever need to in the future... all of the same color wires.

I know Chase and Jeff are both willing to sell various wire colors so you don't have to buy a 1000 feet just to get something with a stripe on it.

I agree, in a normal time, find a problem with colored wires is a pain (sometimes) but if they're all the same color, I'll burn the car ^^

[godrifttoday]

Originally Posted by boyou2

I agree, in a normal time, find a problem with colored wires is a pain (sometimes) but if they're all the same color, I'll burn the car ^^

Burn the car lol.