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flipboi13 · 07-02-2002, 02:16 AM

I finally got around to draining my trany fluid but now I dunno how to put the new fluid in?? My brain is kinda fried this week but I've run out ideas to get it in there... looks easy but i'm having a brain enema...
Hey, sorry guys if this has been answered before but point me in the right direction if it has...

- Phil -
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rotaryknight · 07-02-2002, 02:35 AM

You can fill it from where the shifter goes in.....i think...i'm supposed to try it when I get back from my road trip.

You will need a C-clip removal tool.

uuninja · 07-02-2002, 04:29 AM

You can fill it through the shifter hole. However there is a drain plug on the side of the transmission. That is the level that you should fill it to. IIRC the FSM shows you putting your finger in the hole to check the level. Over filling the transmission would be a bad thing.

bbp · 07-02-2002, 07:15 AM

Go to Home Depot (or whatever)  and buy one of those long slender funnels.  Then get a 3 foot piece of 5/8 clear vinyl tubing from the plumbing department.  

Go home.

Jack up car, put jack stands under car (all 4)

Remove drain plug from bottom of transmission with a 1/2 rachet.  Clean any metal shards of magnet on plug.  When done draining reinstall bottom drain plug.

Remove the fill plug located on the drivers side of transmission.

From under the hood, slip piece of tubing down near the exhaust manifold/downpipe area.  From under car, slip the end of hose into transmission fill hole.  Get it in there so it doesn't pop out and dump gear oil all over the place.

From under the hood, put the funnel in the end of the hose and pour in you gear oil.  Add gear oil until it begins to pour out of the fill hole.  If alot comes out, wait until the flow stops before reinstalling plug.  An overfilled transmission will blow the main seals and begin to leak.

I use Mobil1 gear lube.  Have had bad results with redline screwing with the sycros.

now get to work!

240 2NR · 07-02-2002, 08:45 AM

There's a much easier way.  Go to any autoparts store and get a fluid pump.  Basically a long slender metal tube with handle at one end and a clear hose about a foot long at the other.  Basically you put the hose in your trans fluid of choice and pull the handle which draws fluid up into the metal tube.  Then put the hose into the filler hole on the trans and depress the handle to pump fluid into the trans case.  Be sure to stop just below the hole (use your finger to check).  It's not terrible if you fill it till it drains out the hole like I did, but then some of the fluid will end up on your garage floor after you drive it and it vents off the excess fluid.

The pump should cost you about $10 and will be money well spent since you'll need it for your diff too.

HippoSleek · 07-02-2002, 09:40 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bbp @ July 02 2002,08:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Remove drain plug from bottom of transmission with a 1/2 rachet. Clean any metal shards of magnet on plug. When done draining reinstall bottom drain plug.

Remove the fill plug located on the drivers side of transmission.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Which way to those things turn?  I've seen some that didn't want to come out, so I'd rather confirm... is it (when facing the plug) clockwise or counter?

bbp · 07-02-2002, 09:47 AM

They are both normal thread.  Clockwise to tighten, counter to loosen.  Sometimes they can be a pain to remove.  I have used a breaker bar on them to get them out in the past.

HippoSleek · 07-02-2002, 11:54 AM

Thanks.  What scares me is that I saw one strip out from using the end of a breaker bar.  You just use the 1/2" ratchet head - no special tool?

nrcooled · 07-02-2002, 01:45 PM

A 1/2in breaker bar works well.  Takes some serious straining and effort but she will come out.  We used a 3ft breaker bar to get civickilla's out <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

HKrpS13 · 07-02-2002, 01:55 PM

How do you know when to change the transmission oil?
Should it be changed every time you get an oil change?

flipboi13 · 07-02-2002, 03:11 PM

Thanks guys for the help.  I ended up going with bhp's idea and pouring the fluid into a plastic hose and letting it work its way into the trany.

- Phil -

*sykikchimp* · 07-02-2002, 03:55 PM

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I used a pump and it was a pain b/c Redline come in smaller bottles, and the hose that came with my pump was too short to get the the bottom of the bottle's.  I think BBP's way would have been MUCH simpler and much less messy.  I got tranny fluid all over the place.

riot · 07-02-2002, 09:17 PM

changing tranny fluid is pretty straight forward...I suggest using the funnel/tubing over the pump, it was way easier.  I changed the fluid on a 1990 civic which felt like it had the original fluid that came in that B16 from japan.  I used a breaker bar with a 3/8" driver and it came off easier then the oil drain plug came off.  I was done in 15 mins...I imagine that a 240 will be similar if not exactly the same.

-ryan

07-02-2002, 02:16 AM	#1
flipboi13 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I finally got around to draining my trany fluid but now I dunno how to put the new fluid in?? My brain is kinda fried this week but I've run out ideas to get it in there... looks easy but i'm having a brain enema... Hey, sorry guys if this has been answered before but point me in the right direction if it has... - Phil - 95 240SX SE (w/ 4 lugs&#33<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

07-02-2002, 02:35 AM	#2
rotaryknight Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 408 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You can fill it from where the shifter goes in.....i think...i'm supposed to try it when I get back from my road trip. You will need a C-clip removal tool. __________________ Daily Driver- 91 240 SX SE...S13 Blacktop HKS FMIC, EVC IV, W/G, Racing Suction, DP, Dual Drager, springs/pillow ball mounts Whiteline sway bars Tokico blues Koyo Radiator, Fluidyne fan J30 VLSD stock exterior. Fun Car- 94 FD3S (TO4S). The White HKS FD in FnF......may she rest in pieces.

07-02-2002, 07:15 AM	#4
bbp Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: oHIo Age: 52 Posts: 477 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Go to Home Depot (or whatever)  and buy one of those long slender funnels.  Then get a 3 foot piece of 5/8 clear vinyl tubing from the plumbing department.   Go home. Jack up car, put jack stands under car (all 4) Remove drain plug from bottom of transmission with a 1/2 rachet.  Clean any metal shards of magnet on plug.  When done draining reinstall bottom drain plug. Remove the fill plug located on the drivers side of transmission. From under the hood, slip piece of tubing down near the exhaust manifold/downpipe area.  From under car, slip the end of hose into transmission fill hole.  Get it in there so it doesn't pop out and dump gear oil all over the place. From under the hood, put the funnel in the end of the hose and pour in you gear oil.  Add gear oil until it begins to pour out of the fill hole.  If alot comes out, wait until the flow stops before reinstalling plug.  An overfilled transmission will blow the main seals and begin to leak. I use Mobil1 gear lube.  Have had bad results with redline screwing with the sycros. now get to work! __________________

07-02-2002, 08:45 AM	#5
240 2NR Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Denver Posts: 1,131 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There's a much easier way.  Go to any autoparts store and get a fluid pump.  Basically a long slender metal tube with handle at one end and a clear hose about a foot long at the other.  Basically you put the hose in your trans fluid of choice and pull the handle which draws fluid up into the metal tube.  Then put the hose into the filler hole on the trans and depress the handle to pump fluid into the trans case.  Be sure to stop just below the hole (use your finger to check).  It's not terrible if you fill it till it drains out the hole like I did, but then some of the fluid will end up on your garage floor after you drive it and it vents off the excess fluid. The pump should cost you about $10 and will be money well spent since you'll need it for your diff too. __________________ Steve 93 240sx FB currently very clean and for sale

07-02-2002, 09:47 AM	#7
bbp Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: oHIo Age: 52 Posts: 477 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	They are both normal thread.  Clockwise to tighten, counter to loosen.  Sometimes they can be a pain to remove.  I have used a breaker bar on them to get them out in the past. __________________

07-02-2002, 04:29 AM	#3
uuninja Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reston, VA Age: 46 Posts: 812 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You can fill it through the shifter hole. However there is a drain plug on the side of the transmission. That is the level that you should fill it to. IIRC the FSM shows you putting your finger in the hole to check the level. Over filling the transmission would be a bad thing. __________________ Lurker Supreme! www.midatlantic240sx.com 91 Coupe 97 KA24DE+T SOLD

07-02-2002, 09:40 AM	#6
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bbp @ July 02 2002,08:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Remove drain plug from bottom of transmission with a 1/2 rachet. Clean any metal shards of magnet on plug. When done draining reinstall bottom drain plug. Remove the fill plug located on the drivers side of transmission.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Which way to those things turn?  I've seen some that didn't want to come out, so I'd rather confirm... is it (when facing the plug) clockwise or counter?

07-02-2002, 11:54 AM	#8
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks.  What scares me is that I saw one strip out from using the end of a breaker bar.  You just use the 1/2" ratchet head - no special tool?

07-02-2002, 01:45 PM	#9
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 45 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A 1/2in breaker bar works well.  Takes some serious straining and effort but she will come out.  We used a 3ft breaker bar to get civickilla's out <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

07-02-2002, 01:55 PM	#10
HKrpS13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 267 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How do you know when to change the transmission oil? Should it be changed every time you get an oil change?

07-02-2002, 03:11 PM	#11
flipboi13 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks guys for the help.  I ended up going with bhp's idea and pouring the fluid into a plastic hose and letting it work its way into the trany. - Phil -

07-02-2002, 03:55 PM	#12
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 43 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	kinda dorky but --  "Righty Tighty, Lefty Loosey"  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> I used a pump and it was a pain b/c Redline come in smaller bottles, and the hose that came with my pump was too short to get the the bottom of the bottle's.  I think BBP's way would have been MUCH simpler and much less messy.  I got tranny fluid all over the place. __________________

07-02-2002, 09:17 PM	#13
riot Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 348 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	changing tranny fluid is pretty straight forward...I suggest using the funnel/tubing over the pump, it was way easier.  I changed the fluid on a 1990 civic which felt like it had the original fluid that came in that B16 from japan.  I used a breaker bar with a 3/8" driver and it came off easier then the oil drain plug came off.  I was done in 15 mins...I imagine that a 240 will be similar if not exactly the same. -ryan