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word sux · 08-07-2011, 01:58 PM

ESmorz · 08-07-2011, 02:07 PM

Fucking knew it was going to be squirrels.

Fractur3 · 08-07-2011, 02:11 PM

That video was awesome lol. Only way to fix it is to cut spending and increase income. Seems pretty simple.

simmode1 · 08-07-2011, 02:55 PM

^^^Yes, but how do we increase income if the corporations are still refusing to hire, slashing expenses & pocketing all the profits?

Fractur3 · 08-07-2011, 03:07 PM

taxes. on everybody. I don't think a 1% flat rate across the board is going to hurt anyone.

I don't know what cutting medicare is gonna do either besides hurt people, nursing homes and care facilities are now just cutting back on labor so yes they save that money, but now they're taking more jobs away.. I'm not big into politics, I can't stand how everyone in Washington can't get along, but its past that stage. Put your differences aside and fix the damn problem.

Freddy · 08-07-2011, 04:08 PM

you Americans need a tax reform so this doesn't happen

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/bu...pagewanted=all

lewisfk · 08-07-2011, 04:54 PM

^^ did someone say something about raising TAXES? Next mid term election vote DEMOCRAT, and the taxes will get raised! If u voted tea party u have no one to blame but your self!

simmode1 · 08-07-2011, 05:16 PM

Taxing the wealthy FTMFW. We need some type of trade agreement that keeps corporations from running overseas to avoid taxation.

TheWolf · 08-07-2011, 05:57 PM

is tired of class warfare.. earn your own shit.. keep your own shit..

**Phlip** · 08-07-2011, 06:31 PM

Moving this thread to Loud Noises, where none of the posts in the ensuing argument will count toward post counts.

***S14DB*** · 08-07-2011, 06:40 PM

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Corbic · 08-07-2011, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by simmode1

Taxing the wealthy FTMFW. We need some type of trade agreement that keeps corporations from running overseas to avoid taxation.

Better yet, Fuck them companies! Lets have the Government just raid them and take over. Then they can hire us and just make sure to pay us all fairly and get rid of those fat cat money grubbing bastards!

(sarcasm for the idiots out there)

Agamemnon · 08-07-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by simmode1

Taxing the wealthy FTMFW. We need some type of trade agreement that keeps corporations from running overseas to avoid taxation.

That's the ticket! Punish those that succeed.

Then after that, we'll force corporations to stay in America so we can over tax them and they'll have nowhere to run.

The american dream lives on.....

jorge1190 · 08-07-2011, 08:17 PM

Yeah tax the wealthy, because the broke ass people in the world are the ones investing money and creating successful corporations. Some people do the right things and get money other don't, you earn it you should keep it just as much as anyone else.

We do need some sort of reform to keep huge corporations from avoiding all taxes.

**RJF** · 08-07-2011, 08:20 PM

Love how people who pay no income tax say "Tax the Rich". How about the 50% of American that don't pay taxes, pay their fair share.

Did you get a tax refund?

ineedone · 08-07-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RJF

Love how people who pay no income tax say "Tax the Rich". How about the 50% of American that don't pay taxes, pay their fair share.

Did you get a tax refund?

They pay taxes... just not income... But payroll, goods, services, etc...

**RJF** · 08-07-2011, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ineedone

They pay taxes... just not income... But payroll, goods, services, etc...

Well, that's not paying their fair share.

You know how much Mark and I are penalized for owning Zilvia and if we manage to have a few dollars left at the end of the year? We get hit with Self-employment taxes and penalties for not withholding during the year.

How are we supposed to know if we will have a profit at the end of the year when things change and fluctuate during the year? Right now we are paying off credit card bills for $8000 in server and network equipment.

How does that type of attitude help small businesses plan for the future and try to hire and pay employees, even if they are just part-time?

ineedone · 08-07-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RJF

Well, that's not paying their fair share.

You know how much Mark and I are penalized for owning Zilvia and if we manage to have a few dollars left at the end of the year? We get hit with Self-employment taxes and penalties for not withholding during the year.

How are we supposed to know if we will have a profit at the end of the year when things change and fluctuate during the year? Right now we are paying off credit card bills for $8000 in server and network equipment.

How does that type of attitude help small businesses plan for the future and try to hire and pay employees, even if they are just part-time?

Be mad at GE for paying 0$! Stop being slackers and become a multi-billion dollar business than you do not have to pay anything... much less a fair share.

What is your view of "fair" the 50% who do not pay income own what percentage of the wealth as a whole? What is it now the top 5% own over 50% of all the wealth in the country?

This is not to say that some people take advantage of it, but the ones doing it on the bottom have no where near the impact of the ones on top who do it.

bb4_96 · 08-09-2011, 08:56 AM

VAT FTMWF. Who gives a shit what you make. Tax on what you spend is fair.

Corbic · 08-09-2011, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bb4_96

VAT FTMWF. Who gives a shit what you make. Tax on what you spend is fair.

Then nobody would spend... No body spends, nobody makes money...

bb4_96 · 08-09-2011, 09:39 AM

haha like when gas goes up past $3 a gallon and we all walk.

ch1873857 · 08-09-2011, 09:51 AM

i work for one of the regional support commands in afghanistan. i see how much money is dumped in this shithole country. how about 20 billion? just in afghan aid THIS YEAR alone. thats not including the cost of us being over here. our on spending. so take 50 billion/ year out of the yearly debt, and things would be much different. just saying. 50 billion goes a long way.. its not the answer but we sure as hell wouldnt hear about our credit ratings going down, killing our market. its so frustrating. i just gave 150k to some afghans to dump poo water out of an ANA base that doesnt get used for the purpose we built it. for all we know the taliban are taking up camp there because they magically disappear when the americans come. ok /rant

sw20>>s14 · 08-09-2011, 01:46 PM

but being the world police and sending aid to every shithole under the sun is our MO...cant argue with that can we?

Fractur3 · 08-09-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by simmode1

Taxing the wealthy FTMFW. We need some type of trade agreement that keeps corporations from running overseas to avoid taxation.

Lol the only reason they go overseas is because they can't afford the taxes and expenses here. Your force them to come back, you might as well close the doors because shit is too expensive here. It makes no sense to punish the people who get college educations and put there neck on the line to make a lot of money, and employ hundreds of people. If they are going to raise taxes, they need to do it on 100% of America, not 5%, thats like taking a 30 year loan on a $10k car, why even bother?

ch1873857 · 08-09-2011, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sw20>>s14

but being the world police and sending aid to every shithole under the sun is our MO...cant argue with that can we?

haha

this is more that aid.. this is like.... christmas for an entire country

upsdude · 08-09-2011, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sw20>>s14

but being the world police and sending aid to every shithole under the sun is our MO...cant argue with that can we?

god, how much have we thrown into pakistan?!

***S14DB*** · 08-09-2011, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by upsdude

god, how much have we thrown into pakistan?!

Only a few Billion...

Foreign aid to Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ch1873857 · 08-10-2011, 01:20 AM

pakistan is where most taliban are coming from. its going to take more than a few billion to take care of them. money doesnt solve anything especially these people. you give a little, they take a lot and then insist for more. which is why they have us by our balls right now. the haqqani network of taliban are what i deal with on a daily basis. they come from pakistan on j-bad road which just so happens to be the road my base is on YAY. fuck this is a topic that gets my blood boiling. please forgive me.

Corbic · 08-10-2011, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ch1873857

pakistan is where most taliban are coming from. its going to take more than a few billion to take care of them. money doesnt solve anything especially these people. you give a little, they take a lot and then insist for more. which is why they have us by our balls right now. the haqqani network of taliban are what i deal with on a daily basis. they come from pakistan on j-bad road which just so happens to be the road my base is on YAY. fuck this is a topic that gets my blood boiling. please forgive me.

Have India fight Pakastan. Their just looking for an excuse.

ronmcdon · 08-10-2011, 12:12 PM

^^

Hypothetically, I wonder how beneficial that scenario would be to the US?

08-07-2011, 01:58 PM	#1
word sux Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: earth Age: 62 Posts: 1,138 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	government spending is NUTS!

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08-07-2011, 02:11 PM	#3
Fractur3 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Cincinnati Age: 32 Posts: 160 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	That video was awesome lol. Only way to fix it is to cut spending and increase income. Seems pretty simple.

08-07-2011, 02:55 PM	#4
simmode1 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 5,526 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^Yes, but how do we increase income if the corporations are still refusing to hire, slashing expenses & pocketing all the profits?

08-07-2011, 03:07 PM	#5
Fractur3 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Cincinnati Age: 32 Posts: 160 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	taxes. on everybody. I don't think a 1% flat rate across the board is going to hurt anyone. I don't know what cutting medicare is gonna do either besides hurt people, nursing homes and care facilities are now just cutting back on labor so yes they save that money, but now they're taking more jobs away.. I'm not big into politics, I can't stand how everyone in Washington can't get along, but its past that stage. Put your differences aside and fix the damn problem.

08-07-2011, 04:08 PM	#6
Freddy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ottawa, Canada Age: 34 Posts: 568 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	you Americans need a tax reform so this doesn't happen http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/bu...pagewanted=all

08-07-2011, 04:54 PM	#7
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 43 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	^^ did someone say something about raising TAXES? Next mid term election vote DEMOCRAT, and the taxes will get raised! If u voted tea party u have no one to blame but your self!

08-07-2011, 05:16 PM	#8
simmode1 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 5,526 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Taxing the wealthy FTMFW. We need some type of trade agreement that keeps corporations from running overseas to avoid taxation.

08-07-2011, 08:17 PM	#14
jorge1190 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Culpeper, Va Age: 33 Posts: 593 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Yeah tax the wealthy, because the broke ass people in the world are the ones investing money and creating successful corporations. Some people do the right things and get money other don't, you earn it you should keep it just as much as anyone else. We do need some sort of reform to keep huge corporations from avoiding all taxes.

08-07-2011, 08:20 PM	#15
RJF Super Administrator & Bean Counter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Lone Tree, CO Posts: 2,400 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Love how people who pay no income tax say "Tax the Rich". How about the 50% of American that don't pay taxes, pay their fair share. Did you get a tax refund? __________________ *Zilvia.net...Where the Truth Hurts and Pain Builds Character*

08-09-2011, 08:56 AM	#19
bb4_96 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Under my car Posts: 785 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	VAT FTMWF. Who gives a shit what you make. Tax on what you spend is fair.

08-09-2011, 09:39 AM	#21
bb4_96 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Under my car Posts: 785 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	haha like when gas goes up past $3 a gallon and we all walk.

08-09-2011, 09:51 AM	#22
ch1873857 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Andrews Air Force Base Posts: 1,906 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i work for one of the regional support commands in afghanistan. i see how much money is dumped in this shithole country. how about 20 billion? just in afghan aid THIS YEAR alone. thats not including the cost of us being over here. our on spending. so take 50 billion/ year out of the yearly debt, and things would be much different. just saying. 50 billion goes a long way.. its not the answer but we sure as hell wouldnt hear about our credit ratings going down, killing our market. its so frustrating. i just gave 150k to some afghans to dump poo water out of an ANA base that doesnt get used for the purpose we built it. for all we know the taliban are taking up camp there because they magically disappear when the americans come. ok /rant

08-09-2011, 01:46 PM	#23
sw20>>s14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bay area Posts: 5,656 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	but being the world police and sending aid to every shithole under the sun is our MO...cant argue with that can we? __________________ s14\| y34\| 911 gts\| exige s\| 600rr\| r3\| 250r\| 85 girlfriend

08-10-2011, 01:20 AM	#28
ch1873857 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Andrews Air Force Base Posts: 1,906 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	pakistan is where most taliban are coming from. its going to take more than a few billion to take care of them. money doesnt solve anything especially these people. you give a little, they take a lot and then insist for more. which is why they have us by our balls right now. the haqqani network of taliban are what i deal with on a daily basis. they come from pakistan on j-bad road which just so happens to be the road my base is on YAY. fuck this is a topic that gets my blood boiling. please forgive me.

08-10-2011, 12:12 PM	#30
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	^^ Hypothetically, I wonder how beneficial that scenario would be to the US?